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  1. kuwabaraz

    kuwabaraz Board Analyst

    It depends on how the bosses are balanced and which skills, if this problem is solved the classes are all the same. So you can play in a group without major problems or at the most it is your stats that make you better or worse than another user.
     
  2. heror

    heror Forum Baron

    Everytime i enter this forum i regret it and this time its not an exception. Ok lets say that singularity is op. Ok , lower its atack speed but let me ask 1 thing. How do i keep the boss inside it ? guardian doesnt taunt anymore so u cant controll where the boss to go. Factor in the lower hp. U can want more armor breaks because at the moment there are only 3 resistance breaks. The mage has 2 and dwarf has 1 fire resistance break. Dk has 3 which combined get to 120% or smt , then u factor in ranger armor break which can be stacked ON TOP of dks meaning its much easier to hit and mind u those armor breaks are not a zone so once applied u cant remove it unless it runs out naturally. So let me ask you this. How am i supposed to ultise my armor break in a group, let alone solo. I need to play with 1h dk ? so i have to force someone to play 1h tank instead of them going dmg or hybrid ? He will just go with a group that doesnt have sw on full dmg and the boss will be easier.I think u arent familiar what will happen with the "op 90% atack speed slow" if u decide to do bearach ,,,, or heredur , thats right they just dash out of and make the fight literally impossible, Especially when u cant mind controll the bearach wolves and u have to wait for the pigs to actually have a chance to deal damage.

    Also---> The skill doesnt even work currently so how is it broken if 1its hard to ultilise solo , and its probably ur only defensive layer on a boss ( if it worked)

    "dwarves still had more dmg after the fix"
    Dwarves were so bonkers before ce because they had 2 broken sets while others had 1 which was ignored up untill ce and now they are removed.



    "What I expect is that the class, the classes are balanced to do the same things, we are now on the same level before the expansion with the problems we had in inf7 and the greatest damage has been done to the DK. I just wish that the first problems do not remain especially on this class!"

    But how do u expect to balance a class with 2mil hp and 30k dmg to do the same thing as 500k hp and 50k dmg ? If u really think those base stats dont matter and dont indicate what role the class is then i guess u need one BIG red arrow saying who is who and does what.
    Also i dont know about what damage to the dk u are talking about. They finally gave them some decent clearing ability and the bossing is pretty much the same as the ranger IF NOT better.

    You keep mentioning how everyone is slave to sw whose s skill doesnt work on bosses which is where u actually care for that skill the most. But as a typical dk u ignore level 50 where dwarfs and dks were running in party literally ignoring sw and rangers existence. This level of biased cringe is so much even i cant take it .
    "SWs are feeling the way dks feelt before ce" ye but before in ce ppl killed elites in 3 hits without armor break and now u cant @Phyrix so this skill not working now is MUCH worse. Cuz u could kill bosses but now even fatal is slow. i dont think its fair comparing 4min inf4 solo 10 min dk solo inf4 and 2 min bloodshed and 30min bloodshed, There is a point where u just cant be so deluded , even u cant say this comparison is ok.
    Anyway lets see how it all looks after the fixes because a lot of the stuff are too bugged to even be mathed out as possible dmg and etc.
    To conclude it all , i dont know if u @kuwabaraz purposely ignore actually facts, or u just dont want anything to make sense.Sure nerf the atack speed slow to 75% less than that will be awkward considering master of ice exists. Think of this as more of a defensive tool thanb offensive. Cuz i dont think u realise how much less hp sw has and that he doesnt have actually reliable healing( which doesnt make u stop doing dmg just so u can heal) not to mention mind controll and how dumb it works most of the time.
     
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  3. kuwabaraz

    kuwabaraz Board Analyst

    For me it's okay to remove that -120% damage on armor and -30% on elemental damage which is a scam on 3 skills that then on the map if you are okay and if you can go to a meager 45% and not even all must, great , you know 70% on the ones you have on hand is better than this thing! On the map! From the boss we see if it is so advantageous since you have to use 3 to do less than what you had before because if you can hit the boss maybe you have some if it works and there is a monster next to you you take it and go to 45% I'm just armor.

    For me 3 skills do not make one and the provocation on one of these is a damage between mobs' malus and bosses and damage that cannot be taken!

    What are you complaining about the Wizard, you have the mind control that and your new personal tank on the map 30 seconds duration and 10 seconds cooldown does it all and there are even boss summoned mobs!

    Have you tried going to bosses at the highest level? do you think even 6 million HP makes a difference?

    Or do you think that if you can make a map from a boss and because he is frozen on his feet or at least you can avoid his hits now and later it will be even easier because you just have to increase the damage.

    As for the defenses, life and resistances have died since they set the game on summons and boss blocks!

    It is useless to balance the impossible will always be a mess!

    What they can do is simply slow down boss attacks on other classes as well in order to make Dk playable and more!

    Short parenthesis on the dwarves at lv 50 the bug that lasted 2 and a half years concerns the use of essences with the redheads a dwarf had the damage of the entire weight group that was balanced? ok removed be also q7 + q8 combo discovery later was good, but here too the game was broken what did they do? balanced the bosses on that damage as they did with the wizard and his abilities!

    Do you think the game in Inf7 before and now at the highest level is balanced on the defenses of the DK with the 2h? so you can play? or with a maximum damage set of 1h?

    For the rest I agree there are still too many bugs that break the game let's see what they combine in the next release!
     
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  4. trakilaki

    trakilaki Living Forum Legend

    Fight over which class is better and OP while 99.999% of the game is broken and malfunctioning :)

    There is a leaked video made public in which the devs were planning and deciding the future of the game. The plan was great ... it was a master plan.
    Here is the leaked video about the devs' Great Bad Plan.

     
  5. 4NormaL

    4NormaL Someday Author

    You're talking ridiculous. In your dream world, we are not talking about drakensang. This is the real drakensang. If you are talking about something, present your evidence. You closed your eyes to the facts.

    I guess this proof is enough for you.



    If you are serious about what you said, show your evidence. They are warriors, not mages, who alone clear maps and kill bosses. If you're serious about the mage, where's your evidence?

    where are your mage videos? You talk nonsense about skills. You have no other tricks, no evidence, just talking nonsense. Don't cry here when the developers do something about the warrior. Mage will not be able to help you. Sorry...
     
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  6. kuwabaraz

    kuwabaraz Board Analyst

    In general the game goes like this and don't tell me otherwise and I apologize for using this video which was made not for these topics even though it's nice!



    Do you have videos of other classes playing at mid-level, especially the wizard where singularity doesn't work with armor-breaker playing alone? I think you are asking too much! let's see what will it be after the next release?

    I understand what you mean however they will do what they want! And besides letting off steam, you won't change anything! ok let's close the conversation like this!
     
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  7. trakilaki

    trakilaki Living Forum Legend

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    Bring back the old crew and you don't have to use such propaganda ... as if anyone believe you XD
     
  8. CaballoLoco

    CaballoLoco Forum Apprentice

    We hereby want to thank you for all the bug reports and feedback that you provided us, helping us bringing back the glory of DSO!....confirmed by our QA department
    More info following!...and following...and following....and to infinity and beyond.....


    This is getting fun ... after all ...
     
  9. Lambrusco

    Lambrusco Active Author

    "Hence, we are aiming for a release during the last week in January" and "helping us bringing back the glory of DSO!" like you all may think about this steatment and like an italian singer would sing "parole parole parole"

    Thanks for mocking of us DSO
     
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  10. ManaThief

    ManaThief Someday Author

    Allow me to translate:

    BPish:
    "a lot of these issues have been fixed already"
    English:
    "We completely broke it so you should be thankful you can at least play it right now"

    BPish:
    "we still need more time to address as much as possible"
    "we are aiming for a release during the last week in January. "
    English:
    "we won't do anything for another 1 or 2 weeks"

    BPish:
    "Because what we don’t want is to start the new year with another rushed release"
    English:
    "We will continue to put untested and broken content into the game, we are just too drunk to make any at the moment"

    BPish:

    "helping us bringing back the glory of DSO!"
    English:
    "We messed up again, so we hope the community will save the game for us"

    BPish:
    "We are working on a hotfix for the incorrect quest in the Riot of the Rocketmen Event and are planning to extend the event"
    English:
    "We will fix this 1 thing in unreasonable time, but it's fine, we will make the event longer"
     
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  11. mestamer67

    mestamer67 Padavan

    Are you going to fix a quest that a lot of people don't care about and the drop of the infernal passages, where in a previous fix you increased them to blood, is it totally non-existent? Do these people who work in this game have any idea how unhealthy they are?
    A lot of people no longer play just for these cursed hell shards and then do an event with the sphere shards that don't drop anyway? You rushed to increase the income for blood but not drop it. People like this should be fired immediately.
     
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  12. tiki

    tiki Forum Apprentice

    First, you launch an epic update that isn't ready yet. Then postpone corrections for a long time. Stop, everything should be exactly the opposite! Correct shortcomings rather. At least in small portions, starting with the most essential.
    Pleeeeeas, fix the group talents.
    The shard drop skill does not work.
    And at the same time, one after another, events with spherical fragments occur. I hoped that you knew enough about your game to anticipate that without correcting this talent, we would not be able to make it through your events. We will not be able to prepare. But no, you are going to run fixes during "defeating the undefeated" or after ( I'm disappointed
     
  13. czarodziejedward

    czarodziejedward Forum Apprentice

    Ah yes, the empty slogans ... "helping us bringing back the glory of DSO!". Any totalitarian ruler would be proud of you!
    I have a better one - "The king is dead, long live the king!".

    That's all there's left after you completely cannibalized your game with greed, laziness, constant shortcuts, lack of care and planning. But there's two sides to every coin. Many, many players finally realized what they got themselves into and are finally escaping what they thought was event horizon and I am, at the very least, grateful for that.

    - No work you ever manage to put in this game will restore your community's faith in you. This ship has sailed long time ago.
    - Your renown is already widely known pretty much everywhere and that's the reason your ad campaigns are doomed - the only marketing that could do you any good is silent marketing aka players recommending the game to others but that's out of the realm of possibility.
    - Nobody will replace people who leave wave after wave after wave. Game's population is withering away day by day as more people realize their time is not valued and that their money is funneled into management's and CEO's pockets while you keep rotating interns and changing them like a pair of one time use gloves.

    This is the "dark legacy" you will leave behind - the legacy of once a great game with extreme potential lost to greed, sloth and pride.

    The king is dead, long live the king!

    PS: I hope you guys are already looking for a replacement because this is THE VERY BEST they have to offer. It wont get better. It didnt past few years during "the great dubiety" and if you think it will get better now I might have bad news for you ... You've actually crossed the event horizon.
     
    Last edited: Jan 7, 2021
  14. CaballoLoco

    CaballoLoco Forum Apprentice

    I envy the magic of these words, which describe the reality of things. BP should read comments like this many times before making their decisions ..... Even if it's a bit late now.
    Greetings to Jesse, Hanson, and all their friends .......
     
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  15. trakilaki

    trakilaki Living Forum Legend

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  16. psywarg

    psywarg Forum Apprentice

    Its sad to see that even the old players don't follow the forum rules.

    I understand that players use the forum to blow off steam. Sure you can be sentimental about the game, but understand that at the end of the day it is just a business.

    Its your right to criticize the product if you have issues with it. It is your right to stop using the product if you hate it. But it is limited to the product. You do not have the right to be mean to people, make fun of them or question their competence.
     
    Last edited: Jan 7, 2021
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  17. EmilyRose

    EmilyRose Forum Master

    I agree
    and
    above all you have no right to offend those you don't know and if you don't know their background.
    they are people like us, they have problem like us ...

    when I have lag, I don't see the monsters, but they see me.
    Maybe their server have lag because the monsters are blind sometime.
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  18. TwiliShadow

    TwiliShadow Count Count

    OOORRR ... maybe your just moving too fast for them to focus. ;)
     
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  19. czarodziejedward

    czarodziejedward Forum Apprentice

    There's a point at which you stop pretending it's raining when somebody spits in your face continuously.

    Also actions speak volumes louder than any words and we saw actions taken over the course of years.

    Playing devil's advocate rarely pays off.
     
    Last edited: Jan 8, 2021
  20. psywarg

    psywarg Forum Apprentice

    Ahh, you see that's the guilt talking. You can give thousand excuses for bad behavior to make your conscious happy, but at the end of the day that's all they are: excuses.
     

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