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  1. teddy.bear

    teddy.bear Team Leader Team Drakensang Online

    Dear Heroes of Dracania,

    We're looking forward to your feedback regarding the Defeat the Undefeatable! event, October 2019 edition.

    If you are unsure what sort of feedback is being asked for, please read this thread.
    Any off-topic posts/pointless rants will be deleted.

    Best regards,
    Your Drakensang Online Team
     
  2. vampiro

    vampiro Junior Expert

    I don't know what's the point of the 3rth DtU this year, without any break between long events.
    Sewers-DtU(3)-PvE rank+Halloween at the same time, no breaks. I can't understand why you did not started PvE ranks today and then Halloween afterwards.
    The second DtU had a "why", event was changed, but now? I can't get it.
     
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  3. thouvou000

    thouvou000 Forum Connoisseur

    I really really wonder how you dare bring this event again so soon and you dont even have the dignity to improve the bad things about it. I had many circus entrances from when this event was good so i tried entering inf1 circus. What do you know? During the last dtu event we kept saying that the circus bosses are way too strong compared to the "normal" bosses. E.g circus arachna is way stronger both in terms of damage and hp compared to the dungeon boss. We kept saying that this is ridiculus as those bosses are supposed to be as strong or maybe even less strong, like it was in previous dtu events. Now, in inf1 an end game player will take ages to kill those damn bosses. So, whats basically the solution? Forcing players to buy direct passes to the bosses since those bosses are not buffed like circus bosses. I seriously have no idea how you bring back this event with its map and dont fix the event map which is supposed to be the map we play in and force players to spend more frags which we dont have after so many events to buy passes. Jesus crist
     
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  4. Marsicanus

    Marsicanus Exceptional Talent

    I did 10 infernal 1 run then I decide to stop me. Rewards don't interest me.
    I got many items but only 5-6 little gems and 4-5 stack of andermants and 0 runes or unique item in secret lairs.
    I think it's too little for killing 44 INF1 bosses and cleaned 10 secret lairs (other 10 INF1 bosses).
    Fortunately I don't need any of the event's rewards, not even the two sacred gems in the 200 keys' chest, so it's an event that I can safely skip.


    ~ Your overall impression - good, ok or disappointing
    Disappointing
    ~ What, specifically, lead you to that view?
    Nothing new, waste of resources and time
    ~ What aspects of the release did you particularly like, and why?
    Noone
    ~ What aspects of the release were you unimpressed with, and why?
    All. Too many bosses and I think HP factor for bosses in event is bigger than HP factor for bosses in PW
    ~ What could have been done better, and how?
    Cancel all the changes introduced with the r220 release.
    Think of new multipliers and TEST them before shooting numbers at random.
    ~ Which maps did you particularly like, and why
    There are no map only a big hamster cage.
    ~ Which maps were you unimpressed with, and why?
    There are no map only a big hamster cage.
    Secret lair are become completely useles with r218.
    You can shout MIRACLE!!! if you drop a single rune.
    I continue to not see Greedy Goblin Hunt and Wreckful Protector variants of Secret Lairs
    https://board-en.drakensang.com/threads/secret-lairs-variant.77136/
    Do they really exist?
    After r220 I think, as DK, I can't kill a single goblin if I'll see one.
    You have completely abandoned them as you abandoned PvP.
    ~ What was your view of the difficulty of the event? Too fast/easy? To hard/slow? Or about right?
    No comment
    ~ Did you find the event interesting, or was it a bit of a grind?
    No comment
    ~ What, specifically, could be done to improve it?
    Cancel all the changes introduced with the r220 release.
    ~ What was your view of the rewards? New and interesting? Same old, same old? Ok, but a bit poor for the time/effort involved?
    Low rewards for required resources.
    Who can face the high difficulties without problems surely does not need the rewards of the 200 key chest.
    Those who must grow and need that rewards will hardly be able to get them.
    ~ What rewards would you have preferred (no Lamborghini's or Ferrari's, sorry).?
    NO: yarn, colours, crescerite, no secret lair's keys, useless runes
    YES: gems, useful runes, stuff for event
    What can I do with 999 essences if I use 10,000 of them for 3900 progress?
     
    Last edited: Oct 17, 2019
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  5. Phyrix

    Phyrix Forum Baron

    I suspect they are throwing it as a last-last chance to grab dragan gear <- ring for example, for those who dont have it
     
  6. vampiro

    vampiro Junior Expert

    It's only been two months since the last DtU and Dragan event is coming January or February, so... no sense. Dragan was always 1 edition/year and it wasn't a problem, do players really need it? Should devs put 4 events in 1 year(from March 2019 to March 2020) for the gear reason? Nope. More even when DtU is not really about Dragan even if you can try to get some gear, that should not be the main point of this event nor a reason to returning it after two months. Or should I ask for sewers being released tomorrow again because I didn't get 1 item of the set or the pets? Of course not.
    Even worse, devs received good feedback from March DtU, they changed it to worse in August and 2 months later here we are again with this event and no changes came, they didn't fix an essence issue to make players enjoy this event with good drops and good stacks of essence (since bosses are rebalanced they should also rebalance the way essence are obtained).
     
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  7. Phyrix

    Phyrix Forum Baron

    And the cost of passes, which was advised before, but you know how they listen
     
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  8. DamarèRo

    DamarèRo Junior Expert

    I don't know why you guys do not like this event, you remember when was more then 5-6-7 months(i really don't remember but was a long break with no big events) with just only new/full moon !! who want to finish this event go play, who don't want just pass, and yes i know this and those events (all) can be a loot improved but maybe in the future...
    I enjoy when i see there are more events, big events, some of them with decent rewards and another sadly not too good.

    - the key from 200 chest, drop is very low, is was better if that key drop much better like 2-3 in each turns and in the end we can open two chest of 200 keys.
    - i hope for a good improve from unique stone (i do not remember the name) from 200 chest ! ( in last dtu no drop for me or any of my friends )
    - rune from lairs , very low drop !!
    - very disappointed because from 1 key chest do not drop drakens.

    Overall i enjoy this event even if there are not so big rewards...
     
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  9. ValkonGo

    ValkonGo Regular

    The only thing I do not like about this event is that it is launched when the Mortis-bug is active. Many players know about this bug, many use it, and get an advantage in speed (taking into account the health of the "circus" bosses) over players who play honestly. In fact, this event incites dishonesty, and it is very bad, as I think.

    If you close your eyes to this, this is a good, ordinary event. You can do it, or you can not do it - the rewards are not so good as to cry about an unfulfilled event
     
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  10. Kin

    Kin Forum Apprentice

    dragan mod2 and mod3 can't dropped dragan items ? is the bug? i destroy +30 times mod2 3 and first kill mod 1 dropped item.
     
  11. thouvou000

    thouvou000 Forum Connoisseur

    if you know about a bug you should say what this bug is and report it too ofc . i see no reason saying that you hate the event only for the bug reason and yet u dont mention this bug, which i first time here about it
     
  12. LyLyh

    LyLyh Forum Apprentice

    Well..
    Last time I played this event was in the Spring. Now I see you have found a way to screwed up this event too! :D Only 2 chest, often there are no draken cores. No more andermands, green and blue items from the chest, and rewards from the progress are phatetic - some yarn, some useless runes.. Really?!?!
    You are so greedy, but not only this, I think the correct word is not only greedy :D
    This was one of the event we had a chance to make some andermands, now we have only a big [EDIT] :D
    Why I should pay?? For what?? To take some yarn?? :DDD

    I would ask Haruky (sorry if the name is written wrong way) - how do you feel when you see your "baby" so [EDIT]?!? How could you sell your work to these … :DDD … (I won't write it ) :DD?? If I was you I would be very, very sad and disappointed :D
    And I wonder ..why I am still playing this garbage...
     
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  13. dkarl

    dkarl Forum Master

    For those of us who can't farm endlessly (without an HP buff, I think I can only manage Painful difficulty; maybe Excruciating with the buff, and I can't play 10 hours a day, 14 days straight), it takes an entire event or more to farm the ingredients (which are not even a guaranteed drop) to make just a single pet. I had three bodies from last DtU, picked up a fourth today, finally made my first pet, and am out of ingredients again.

    Even at the 2-3 month frequency that you detest, at this rate it'll take me upwards of two years to build all the pets. So, let me play DtU while you do something else for a week :).

    We aren't allowed to report (the details of) a bug on the forum, as it would give that many more players an opportunity to exploit it before it's fixed. Report to Support, but don't expose the bug here.
     
  14. ValkonGo

    ValkonGo Regular

    Support has long been aware of this problem, but it will be fixed only in 224, although a minimal patch is enough to fix it (4 row in the database)
     
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  15. Kel657

    Kel657 Forum Apprentice


    If you planning to open the final chest you shouldn't have made any pets.

    Wait to see what pet you get and then make the pet
     
  16. Annadín

    Annadín Forum Greenhorn

    Thank you for giving those who are not end game players another chance to get dragan set and pet parts ^^ :) finally something we can do and enjoy to improve our chars :)

    I always read on this forum how end game players complain about everything instead of trying to play a *game* and enjoy it (i know there are a lot of problems and no fair situation but still…), so i had to thank you for this chance.
     
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  17. Marsicanus

    Marsicanus Exceptional Talent

    Rewards have always been poor in this event.
    The really useful thing was the gems, andermants and the draken cores that dropped from chests.
    So in the first event many players uses 20-30-40k and more fragments. I remember I dropped someting like 130k andermants and 7-8k draken cores.
    Then in july event change and now bosses have 10 times HP than before, you can drop only 1 draken core from chest and I didn't see more than 50 andermants.
    An endgame player uses andermants to buy key or other resources to speed up events but all other players need them to grow (buy gems and other stuff).

    An endgame player uses draken cores to test other items/builds, all other players need them to craft and tier up Dragan, Witch and other unique items.

    An endgame player could help new player to grow but now essences and resources are low so many of them can't spent double-triple resource to help them.

    So enggame player group togheter and kill inf4 bosses with 3-400 green/blue essences instead to help new players using 1.000 red ones.
    IMHO this is the real problem!

    If I stay 1min in hubs I receive 20 help request but I must say NO.

    So you like how events changed good for you.
     
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  18. rcch

    rcch Active Author

    This is so true... I cannot even afford to help my guildmates anymore let alone some "strangers"
     
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  19. vampiro

    vampiro Junior Expert

    If weak players seriously prefer the same event after 2 months instead of free time to grow in PW and prepare crafts to be stronger in the next edition, we have a problem here. So you really prefer to do the same event again only in painful? Or did you grow up in 2 months enough to allow you enjoy more and go further this time on the event, I don't think so. Years ago it was like that, maybe the first time on an event you couldn't finish it, but when event returns 6 months or a year later you had the character much better prepared and you felt great because you could finish and get more rewards.
    Now players prefer doing normal + painful bars in 2 consecutive events instead of preparing themselves in 6 months to do Infernal bars the next time, if a weak player prefer to be stucked in an event to get a pet instead of being farming lines to craft... this way you won't get better, a pet won't let you scale from painful to excru or fatal, crafts will.

    Completely unnecessary event.
     
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  20. Annadín

    Annadín Forum Greenhorn

    That is true… but you are missing my point. Crafting dolls is just a bonus. The important thing about this event for us "noobs" is getting dragan set. You see… everywhere i read about what items to use the answer is: q7 + dragan. Well… ok... then i read dragan event is dead or if it Will come back, who knows when… and then there is dtu where i can finally get the set. So, maybe it wont be T6 but at least i have the chance to obtain it during dtu = help me to get a bit better. My "thank you" was mostly for that. Not the rewards of the event, just the opportunity to finally get a set that everyone talks about. :)

    And as i do not know how this event was before, i cant say i like the changes or not sorry, i didnt play "before" whatever changes are you refering to. Just trying to get the most of the events as they are now. :)
     

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