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  1. sargon234

    sargon234 Forum Demigod

    an event designed so that people could exploit the bugged mortis set, incredible
     
  2. TwiliShadow

    TwiliShadow Forum Veteran

    Well, I got into the Inf 1 bar.... somewhere around the 1300-1400 / 3900 mark.

    So, another event uncompleted. Great job BP. Your batting 1000 on uncompleted events. Congrats on trying to drive more players away. Makes me glad I stopped throwing my money away.
     
  3. Dzungla

    Dzungla Forum Pro

    I get your point and it is fact but I also feel the need to tell you that although I have Mortis set, haven't use it once because that's a BUG and I am not a bug user and I hope there's more ppl like that. Especially for arena ... There's enough cheaters without that bug already!

    Don't get me wrong but that isn't BP false - it is up to your char strength and for a moment don't look at DtU like single event for strong players than like more often chance for weaker to improve their chars with rewards ... won't say precious but very good for them.

    Imagine few months up to 1 year old char - regular player with few hours per week, mostly weekend - for them, more often, bigger chance ...

    When you came to the moment when you don't need bugs or cheats like some do, to enjoy - well., your job is done and you can cal yourself endgame player!

    Good luck in the next DtU :D
     
  4. sargon234

    sargon234 Forum Demigod

    of course i'm not accusing all mortis set users, i'm accusing the bug users and those that cater to them, which might explain the series of horrific events that we're getting
    I'm not accusing you or any other mortis set user directly, obviously
    I think that the mortis set is an april's fool joke that came way too late

    They think we're all cheaters or something

    Well, i'm not a cheater

    BP, can you go back to make events that cater to honest normal players and not cheaters?I know that you can do such good events, because you did in the past
     
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  5. Dzungla

    Dzungla Forum Pro

    I've said "I have the set" and best ones are in the "museum" (kobold), and the rest of drop is going into glyphs

    It is very good set if you somehow obtain hp% resources and that means - you'll have to replace cd% from rings and amulet with hp% enchants, use 1h so restore some loses with off hand (I have Gwenfrara's set t8 for arena, now is the real time to insert some platinum lines in it) with incoming jewels, additional runes ... Simply to improvise! (2h is still an option but nit too comfortable for my taste).

    At the end result will be 1h simmillar with current 2h's dmg and "devil" behind your back (sudden kill)

    Now I'll have to do smt I don't like - quote myself :

     
  6. TwiliShadow

    TwiliShadow Forum Veteran

    You _completely_ don't understand what your talking about.

    Before release 220, I was completing nearly all events, even when my hours had me playing more solo than group.

    After 220, I didn't get weaker. My damage is the same. My health is the same. My armor is the same. My resistance is the same. But everything now takes 3-5 times longer, and uses 5x as much essence. Nobody gave me more hours in the day to play. Fact is that my job is taking a few more hours each week, meaning that I've that much less time to play. But that's not why I can't finish events. Take out that one line change of r220 ("Monster health/resistance/damage increase") and I would still be finishing events and enjoying the game. I was almost there.. reaching out just about to grasp true end game, and then...

    I got a general "kick in your face" "we hate the players" "we listen to the few whiners that bought their way into a boring game" nerf. And as such, I've not been able to finish a single event since r220.

    And guess what??? I'm only getting stronger at such a retarded snale's pace, that I don't see me getting the damage/armor/resistance increases to get back in reach of true end game for many many years....

    The month before r220, I could solo the BloodMage on Inf 4 and sometimes die once. After r220, I can't kill the BloodMage even on Inf 1. It's a stalemate battle that I eventually have to lose when I run out of Shining Silver Essence. My last Inf 1 solo battle with her cost me over 5k essence and I had to abandon the battle because there was no hope of ever winning.

    It _IS_ BP's Fault.
     
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  7. sargon234

    sargon234 Forum Demigod

    I don't know man, i don't want to have Damocle's sword over my head, that's why i call it a joke
    If that thing is removed, 1h players may have a way to compete with 2h players

    Listen up, this event is made for cheaters and bug users, there's other explanation: i am strong and i can complete them, however it is tiring and frustrating because they require grind that no normal working human can achieve

    i have over 60k dmg and yet if i play solo i have to play only inf 1 at most, not because i can't play at higher difficulties, but because at higher difficulties i have to use so many essences and waste so much times killing bosses that drop disappointing loot
    And guess what, even increasing damage isn't going to matter, because even with full platinums you still have to farm inf 1 at most

    Do you think this is actually a good model?I don't
    I have the strenght to be able to solo inf 4, however there's no point, it doesn't matter, because this event are going to be boring and long despite your strenght

    It's not up to your strenght, do you get it? These events are not made for strong players but for cheaters, exploiters, bug users and such
    And why should someone be excluded from completing?

    There's also another problem: many of these events have rewards that can benefit non end game players, but they are actually locked away from them, while they are available for end game players, but end game players don't need them
    Do you think this is a rational way to make a game?
    I think not, because it doesn't make sense, it makes the game pointless for everyone

    It's not a matter of working to get those rewards, working isn't going to matter, because those who would benefit won't be able to get those rewards no matter how much they work, while those who can reach them through their work don't need them
     
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  8. Dzungla

    Dzungla Forum Pro

    I know exactly what I'm talking about and ending your post like

    - that is exactly where you're wrong : you didn't adapt!

    I'm playing DK which is for most mission impossible these days because of all boss/mini/mobs improvements and the fact that any of those have higher resistance and hp and when your char is doing physical dmg - time, commodity and all other things used to be "just fine" before, now are not.

    Don't waste time accusing someone that he changed something he owns - find a workaround ... ( generally speaking).

    I've used to farm pw for LB like - inf 3 where need nothing from drop(+16 inf 4 frags)/ inf 4 where smt can be useful

    After changes just went on fatal and I don't spend more time ingame, have improved my char in the meanwhile (grinding at its best(royal schematics, new jewels etc.)) and although I can solo any inf 4 map, I have no intention to do so ... Just where smt can be useful (getting the point ^)

    I don't wanna be accused to be someones lawyer, I'm just trying to motivate ppl saying everything can be done with a bit of w&w (work&will).

    I'm sorry if you think like that though partially I could agree with you about thing that exploiters and co shouldn't get what weaker but honest players should !

    Though you're right about reach ... I remember my first Sargon, I enjoyed every moment of it though I haven't been able to finish hard mode but I got will to improve my char and finish it next time - that is what always keeps me stick here.
     
    Last edited: Oct 31, 2019
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  9. sargon234

    sargon234 Forum Demigod

    the problem is that events seem to be designed exactly to cater to cheaters, bug users and such, not to honest players who struggle and want to play

    I mean, look at the sewers event or defeat the undefeatables
    And this way of designing events damages weaker players but also damages strong end game players too, just a bit less
    There used to be a time when both strong and end game players could enjoy events, now there's no such time anymore

    Don't mistake the old events for present events, those events had actually content for end game players and newbies, this is nothing like today

    look at the sewers event: the most interesting rewards were in the last event bars, which were all perfectly reachable to strong players but that weaker players couldn't
    And the problem is that those rewards weren't really needed by end game players
     
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  10. Iselda

    Iselda Advanced

    Gosh BP! Would you mind reading the feedback here on forum? We've reported the bugged bosses -you didn't fix them; we complained about extremely low drop rate of dolls' bodies - you did nothing to change that; the same applies for the key-chests....
    So my question is: what's the point of providing feedback, if you only care for the whiners on your discord channel?
     
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  11. SillySword

    SillySword Padavan

    Just find a bug of Supreme Rune of Relentlessness, My DK can't get the "Supreme Rune Carver" achievement after crafting it.

    Thanks!
     
  12. Hetsunien

    Hetsunien Padavan

    Probably you used the joker rune to craft it, the achievement gets unlocked only if you combine 3 mighty runes. Try with wisdom runes, as they cost gold to test it.
     
  13. SillySword

    SillySword Padavan

    No, I did not use the joker rune. I found this bug by checking achievement tab after crafting the first Supreme Rune of Relentlessness during DtU 201908. This time I just confirm it by crafting the second rune. :)
     
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  14. Hetsunien

    Hetsunien Padavan

    Then it should be reported.
     
  15. Парабум

    Парабум Regular

    I finished this promotion. I ran into a problem, it is that many players do not want to cooperate without having a dwarf. An urgent need is to take the skill giving the cooldown from the gnome and give it to groups of 2 people 2 seconds tick, 5 people 5 seconds tick (maximum for the dwarf). I spend a lot of time trying to find a group, and all this time it just flies into the pipe. You are not able to give so many gnomes to groups, why do you give them this skill? I myself have a dwarf character, I do not need this skill, leave it to yourself, give a cooperative game! I was looking for a band 50% of the time, and 40% of the time playing solo, ranger.

    The ranger, like any other class, is capable of killing bosses. Beginners who come into the game, if you do not understand this, you will waste your time in this game. Customize your character to match the game, not the dwarf!

     
  16. dawmjr

    dawmjr Junior Expert

    you expected to see doll bodies, haha, when i seen the random doll bodies chest for sale should tell you
     
  17. trakilaki

    trakilaki Living Forum Legend

    I got every single body part from drop at least once or more. Not that I needed them though.
    But what I found out (it doesn't have to be true but it is in my and few other players' cases) the drop from the chest was rigged ... but in favor to the players.
    My friend couldn't get Karabossa doll body ... he got it from the chest (progress).
    I couldn't get the Bloodmage Doll body on my TS SW ... I got it from the progress chest with the very first opening.
     
  18. dkarl

    dkarl Forum Master

    Oh? I assumed that because the doll body chests were in the progress bar, the devs had eliminated them from drops.

    I didn't play a lot (only completed 1-1/2 progress bars on Painful), but dropped zero doll parts. Figure it did ~45 runs * 4 pre-bosses = 180 kills ... no drops. Not a very encouraging ratio ... not that it would have mattered if any dolls had dropped, because Newborn Hearts weren't exactly raining, either: I only have 41, including the dozen left-over from the last event (and I think we got a few from a bonus code, too?).
     
  19. KingsGambit

    KingsGambit Forum Expert

    They didn't. If you would make all progress bars chance you get all doll parts with handicaped chests was very high. Of course you wouldn't be able to craft them all due to Hearts but nevertheless 2 pets of choice almost guaranteed.
     
  20. Босc

    Босc Junior Expert

    I have a 160 keys from progress. What is better for me? Open x1 160 chest or x2 80? Or even x4 40? Tell me please
     

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