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  1. bloodyneo

    bloodyneo Forum Master

    just to let the moderater to know that i just did 35 hard sirgi runs and no circus portal drop is that normal ? or its the normal generous style of DSO ?
  2. Dragonnns

    Dragonnns Count Count

    I found it frustrating that I had Bosses to do that I couldn't get to without completing quests I hadn't yet started. I decided just to continue on the path I was going as if the quest didn't exist. I didn't want to level up so fast I missed things. Part of the fun of the game for me is to enjoy the tasks I'm on, look at the great graphics and tackle challenges as they appear. Rushing things is not enjoyable for me.
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  3. rpfo

    rpfo Padavan

    Hi, this is my feedback:
    1 - Great idea to limit the pet per lvl, at least hard working players wont see the reward in lvl 9 players like the warlord set that u allowed the lowest lvls in the gave to have it (without a single hit in the boss) , while my hardwork char was still weak to kill and get it. I really think the great rewards , no matter if good or not , must be given only for those that really works.
    2 - I got my first dragon :) Its awesome and it was free :D
    3 - Yup kill kristoff was really boring , but hey if we look the work u need to get drakens and pay the costume , the time u have to spend to farm anders and buy that dragon on the store , it was awesome to get everything.
    4 - Im not a pvper but the cape must be very usefull for open pvpers :D
    5 - I did in the first 3 days the whole event , so the progress was better than all the other events i have played

  4. Piipero

    Piipero Junior Expert

    Gotta say that I've had the worst luck ever during this event. We farmed travel rations from Herald (hard) in a full guild team for 6 hours or so. One of the guildies got 16 travel rations and others also over 10 while i got a whopping 2! And the rate has been pretty similar for whole duration of event (guildies getting more than me that is, all though i have had a few goodish days farming rations). Last night I got 5 drops from Sigri hard farm during the 6 hours i spent there with full team of 4 level 45's and 1 level 40. 1 kill took about 1-2 minutes so count the ratio from that ;).

    Now lets get to the Circus part. We have a solid 15 members that farm stuff together and most of them got the damned pet within 10 runs of Circus, few got it in 30-40 runs and then there is me and another one that's clocking it at 60+ and 1 or 2 parts. Also notable is that the ones that got the pet in few runs got the parts one after another while no one in the teams got any drops at that time.

    It just hits me as odd that the same few people has the worst luck ever getting rations and pet drops when the ones that has gotten lots of them hasn't even seen a bad day in drops. We have tried toying around with the damage afflicted to bosses (with people using no essences to the ones getting low drops using even reds) with no avail. We have tried soloing, smaller groups etc etc etc with no avail. ( I guess next tries are gonna involve sum voodoo, curses, praying etc. ;) ) Guess I'm "lucky" to have almost 9 more days to try to farm the parts.
  5. Jettemee

    Jettemee Junior Expert

    Just wow, just wow. This event is for no lifers with absolutely nothing to do, and I've pretty much turned into one thank you BP. I've been grinding 12-16 hours a day on this stupid event. I am aiming to finish all 4 of my toons. I have 2 done so far, but what I dread the most is spamming Heredur with my low level. Whoever came up with the idea that you need to kill Heredur 1271 times (Queen gives insignia which deducts 4 kills) needs to play the event himself. That itself is gonna take about 4-6 days itself. I helped some guild mates of mine with the hard bosses and I just don't understand what BP devs are thinking. I'm so thankful level 45s have it easy (if going with Kristoff) and frankly, this is how it should be across all levels.

    Bottom line and conclusion: The overly astronomical grinding nonsense in a ranged time needs to stop. Also, end game bosses in difficult mode definitely need to pay out a lot more insignia. More effort, time, resources are used than say, Kristoff in Stalgard. Come on, really? Is this the best BP can do? They know how to squeeze out every cent outta us, but can't mathematically calculate the effort/time/resources to insignia payout ratio? I would love to hear an actual BP developer try and explain this nonsense to us.

    "Yeah, we think killing Gullov 5 times for 6 insignia is a great alternative to killing Sigris 3 times for 18 insignia. Not only does Gullov respawn slower than a team can kill Sigris, but everyone in Iron Forest can share turns. Let's see, uhhhhh 5x6=56 and 3x18=54 so I don't think players will complain too much."

    By the way BP, the average insignia per killing Gullov is 1.2 and for Sigris, it is 6. Though resources may be used on Sigris, still Sigris is obviously the better choice for completing event efficiently.
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  6. BigPapa

    BigPapa Forum Overlooker

    One aspect of this event I'm enjoying is the unified goals that has groups of 45's killing Sigris, Gorga, and Herald. I have never had whispers saying "herald hard?" until this event. These are the same folks I run Destructor with, now asking to go kill a level 40 hard boss. That tickled me a bit:p.
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  7. Novadude

    Novadude Commander of the Forum

    Would have been nice if killing hard bosses gave insignia, though.
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  8. Darwarren

    Darwarren Count Count

    That Heradur Doll is great!
    Runs like a wide-eyed puppy.
    Always ready for battle, waving his mace.
    Paranoid behind the shield.
    Psychotic rage at a moments notice.
    Beautify art detailing.
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  9. DocWhisky

    DocWhisky Forum Mogul

    Absolutely agree with you Joe ... have a lvl 17 DK that would have to kill Herdur 1275 times to finish event. Seems to point to the possibility that no one at BP is capable of "SANE" thinking. Because imho, its freakin "INSANE" for anyone to "THINK" 1275 kills of same boss is anything close to fun. So much for trying to limit "The Grind". lol

    Thanks, Doc.
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  10. Multi-Sev

    Multi-Sev Forum Overlooker

    I stopped after the red essence crystals. The event is lame. 'Nuff said.
  11. Master0fpuppets

    Master0fpuppets Forum Baron

    Bearch, 23 kills on solo runs and no drop. I talk to one guy on my server and he got pet after only 15 runs or so, I have done 54 runs (I keep a score) and have 2/4 for pet.
    We, the players who did not get pet or part from boss after so many runs at it are mad, realy mad, keep that in mind.
  12. 9ndrei

    9ndrei Forum Expert

    THIS IS SICK! Goddamn fix the Hidden Sanctum group bug ... at least give us that! Like it's not enough this is one of the most boring and mind numbing events in history... we can't even do it. We have to get in and out from Herald about 20 effin' times to be able to kill him as a group.

    Is anyone listening at least?!
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  13. Multi-Sev

    Multi-Sev Forum Overlooker

    Yup, I know that's right. I could only force myself to do enough to get the red ess and I was outie.

    They say they are, but... hehe... It's a 3+ year old game. Maybe they're just letting nature take its course. What is the average lifespan of a "f2p" mmorpg?
    Last edited: Jan 14, 2015
  14. Wiggles

    Wiggles Active Author

    What is the problem? Can't you just buy insignia and travel rations? I mean it is kind of obvious by the way it is so hard to get these things through game play that you should just buy them instead.

    Why else would drop rates and amounts be so low? I don't you guise get the point of these great events... Buy more resources.

    I ain't spewing snark, that's just what ends up happening. It stops being about putting another quarter to play again. To being how much they can get out each player.

    24 instead of 25 insignias for killing kristoff :p
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  15. Harmless70

    Harmless70 Forum Apprentice

    The most glaring thing about this event is that more thought and creativity appears to have gone into ways to drain ander and essence out of the player base than anything else. The sheer repetitiveness and travel is ridiculous, there could have been more eligible monsters and an event tally instead of having to turn it in every time. I'll just pass on trying to complete this event.
  16. BigPapa

    BigPapa Forum Overlooker

    There is a trend on all the these events that seems to repeat itself over and over. I am not addressing any bugs, that is a separate issue and we all understand your frustration if you are fighting them. This is for the folks complaining about the event items and process.

    Lets take the Sargon events for example, most would now agree that they were good events. But, if you played the event in it's different versions you will remember that the complaints on the forum were rampant: "its too hard", "drops are terrible they have negative stats, no one would use that stuff", "it's the same gear from last time", "farming portals takes too long", "it's too much of a grind", "I have to kill the boss 100 times to get something I want:, "why are you using other maps that already exist", blah blah blah wha wha wha. Now that the event no longer exists, everyone complains that they can't get the stuff and it was the greatest event ever.

    It was the same with the first desert of essence, the defense event and every other event I can remember. The dessert of essence gear was complained about when it was first offered. "it is nowhere near as good as Dark Armor", "the boss is too hard to kill for that stuff." "The Defense gear is only good for a tank" Then someone posted a video on youtube using a full essence set and everyone wanted it but the event was over. So they brought it back and people complained again.

    It seems that the event-de-jour is the most hated useless event ever and someone says the items are bad so some peeps decide not to try and get them, then it becomes liked when it is gone and everyone wants it to return so they can get the items. Or, they just want Gnob to sell them so they don't have to wait.

    The new moon set is another example. Before the level cap increase to 45 people said how terrible the gear was and it was for noobs. Then it changed it to "powerful" gear post-cap increase, and everyone was mad. Then they changed it to "Chaser" gear and everyone was even more mad. To the point that both old sets are now Gnob offers.

    It happens over and over that people dislike items because someone says they stink, they are too hard to get or a waste of time. So people don't complete the event or pursue the items, and then beg for the chance to get what they didn't work towards when it was there after they see the benefit others are getting from the items. Two months from now everyone will want the cape and the pet.

    This trend of complain during and then complain more after, is why the Dev's only listen with one ear when we offer "feedback."
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  17. silverseas

    silverseas Count Count

    I like the improvements made to this event since the one last year.

    I know last time around, it was hard for the mid-40s who had power levelled their way up to find 45s to help them through the hard mode bosses. This time around, I could find hard boss groups pretty much anywhere, and I know quite a number of mid-40s who finished the event quite fast, or at least made good progress because all the 45s were suddenly camping bosses for circus rations. Frankly, it was also nice that it added some variety of things to do--when I'm bored of bullying Kristoff, I could usually find a hard mode boss farm group.

    Reward-wise, I know the overwhelming majority of people seem to think it they were crappy. Personally, I like all the rewards, although I would like it if it was less ambiguous which bosses the new pet worked on. The new cape is especially good for giggles, since I usually stand as far away as possible from a monster to avoid getting hit, but now I can dash forward for loot and annoy team members by hovering over them on my dragon while picking loot. XD

    Oh yes, and since r139 or whichever it was, travelling costs gold to go directly to a map, so I have to say this event was vastly improved in that I didn't have to dash through several maps before finally arriving at the boss to kill. A bit late, but thank you very much for this improvement.
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  18. bezryl

    bezryl Active Author

    *polished turd* heh got a good laugh,thanks for that

    On topic: i could only manage to do up to the red ess for the event, the only option for me is killing the boss in stalgard(too weak for destructor) and that's wayyyy too boring

    they couldnt have given more options? maybe end bosses in pw's
  19. Master0fpuppets

    Master0fpuppets Forum Baron

    That Bear will not drop pet part 32 kills now and this is turning to be a bug since no one on Grimmag is getting pet part from bear or other monsters in circus. pls fix this.
  20. MANOJ

    MANOJ Forum Pro

    Agate-Scaled Dragonspawn is completely MUTE!!!
    This Dragonspawn looks like it has Jaundice with it's Yellow eyes. It looks more powerful than other dragonspawns in the game.
    But this gigantic epic mount Dragon doesn't make any sound at all. It doesn't make any sound while standing still or while riding it.
    Even a grey horse mount makes some noise while riding it.
    Every other Dragonspawn makes some sound while standing still and they make huge ground beating sound while riding them. But this one stands and runs quite like it has burnt it's voicebox and weighs like a feather.
    The only time i hear it make noise is when it is summoned or when I change maps while riding it, that too a short timed roar.
    This one is my first Dragonspawn but I hate it for being mute :(
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