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  1. dam18

    dam18 Forum Apprentice

    no i was mentioned during the event like for example we with the sugar beets we also gather in the parallel world and the regions reach the solstice festival there is at Christmas time
     
  2. vkillerx

    vkillerx Forum Pro

    Sugar beets are a different thing that is a yearly event of which you have just the main map which requires the entrances so where you want to drop it...
    Crystal dew has it´s own specified map (ye great design we all know) for it to drop and it also is a monthly event not a yearly event


    Franly all that doe needs is little drop of progress in desert of lost so it´s not total waste of time to do all the waves ( removal or at least weakening of the stupid debuffs as well)
    Entrance cost only for desert in which purple map will be included as well tho with e.g higher dew cost as well as not model of dtu entrance costs but model of Moon events so 1 entrance for any mode
    Better progress drop and not the darn individual bars ITS A MONTHLY EVENT afterall
    Static crystal drop of 10 per run (as well as more static progress drop per runs e.g make boss drop all the map progress at once in given amount instead of rng from 150 to 250 from all mobs on map) or a shorter quest e.g repeatable for every map individually for 10 orbs or so
    The pet and effect drop is fine as it is monthly event and if the cost was reasonable eb would eventually get all the effects and pets...
    The uniq drop however should be increased this way even starting toons that might use the 3+ set pieces wont be able to as the drop is literally 0-1 uniqs per event in most occasions

    @Mal3ficent Thanks for the answer regarding the date changes...
    Tho i´ll bother you a bit more if you don´t mind :p I got an echo that dragan progress bars were made longer... Is that true ?
     
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  3. dam18

    dam18 Forum Apprentice

    now I suggest that you remove the desert completely from the event in my proposal and that is and you could instead collect crystal dew in the cards which should be used with a portal during DoE events so that you should use in example in inf 3 crystal dew ( which you collect in parallel world as well as other regions) + portal (which you buy for realm fragments segments white, orange, yellow, green, blue as well as purple being added about portal) and then infernal page

    but again that's an idea
     
  4. bassevents94

    bassevents94 Someday Author

    if you go just for the progress, play with fire buff 3994 and fire 24% + fire rooster pet or egg pet and as dwarf you need play in group
    then is easy

    farming in group means also cheapest way, with 5 you need only 4 times 68 entrys to black portal and you finish

    but i you do follow that quest you need alot more.

    but do this event solo i think only a dragonknight can survive that many ways with 10% debuff/ sec with mighty wild swing, they heals 80% back of there lives,

    i am dwarf if i do it solo my catalysator doesn't heal me not enough that 2% and 1% is not enough to defeat 10% fire dmg/ sec
     
  5. TwiliShadow

    TwiliShadow Forum Veteran

    Yes you can collect wood and silver essence and pebbles outside the event (in fact the Full Moon event has quests that take place outside of "Event" (night) time).
     
  6. ImmortalDeath

    ImmortalDeath Junior Expert

    Interesting reports. I have myself not tested the new essences yet, though I have several thousand sitting in inv. (btw, I actually liked the event, not bad at all, and I am player since beta.)

    From my understand, they multiply skill dmg, so the effect may be applied *after* you hit the enemy with kill. Have you seen any "additional" hits on enemy when using elemental ess? You could also just watch the health bar of enemy.

    @ other people I am also interested in how they are going to redo the same event twice in two weeks xD

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    We should definitely have essence storage because there are just too many now.

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    I think we need a new event for increased fun, this new event will have to have cool mechanics and art and new monsters but also create/disrupt the current meta for all classes in some way... maybe this is coming in the form of new Content Expansion...

    good work from devs, mods, others in these difficult times, thank you :D
     
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  7. ΣMiwel

    ΣMiwel Forum Overlooker

    He said out of event maps, and not out of event. Things you're talking about do take place in event maps, just not in the time of the event itself... and it's not what people are talking about here.
     
  8. deadland38

    deadland38 Forum Apprentice

    did someone tested the "Khalys essences" that damage the player ? EDIT
    my teamate used it (200% - 20% damage on player) he shoots 3 fireballs and he died ... How BP think this type of essence is interesting, you use essences and you die with almost 1 hit... i think it's just some Troll essences -_-
    When you read that there's a low probability that you can get the purple dungeon with the black portal, you expect better loot but not in this game, you are rewarded with essences that kil yourself ...
    Nice play BP, as always
     
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  9. gbit

    gbit Count Count

    Try using minions...
     
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  10. deadland38

    deadland38 Forum Apprentice

    what are you talking about ?
     
  11. gbit

    gbit Count Count

    The guardian, sorry...
     
  12. deadland38

    deadland38 Forum Apprentice

    I don't agree with you about mortis set, i use it very often depending the situation and the map because of my lack of damage ( waiting to drop d7 staff after +80 run ........) it's more challenging to have huge positives buff but huge "nerf" to balance it but the "khalys" essences are totally unbalance because , yes you do more damage than convential essences, but you die directly after using it contrary to mortis set with have " low chance" to kill you
     
  13. vkillerx

    vkillerx Forum Pro

    You can survive it with perma pot spam i finished the desert solo on i4 within maybe 20mins with my mage(Once again im close to the top end)
    Well ye but you know what i meant you cannot collect them out of the event maps aka Warholm and Blackborg e.g in PWs or scaling dungeons and such...
    Exactly thank you
    All the quests are
    Also i agree with every single point u said traki aside of the one regarding essences
    Frankly im more mad about it working totally differently as the old ess once again bcs different scaling for 3 almost same items w same origin are apparently normal in this game as the old essence as i and some more people aforementioned works as character modifier therefor it makes from 50-70% of your dmg in case of 300% essence at best while the modern essences (NO MATTER THE ELEMENT) deal almost the same dmg on just green while the modern elemental bla bla bla ess is literal quad dmg and it stacks with Q6 set as it amplifies skill dmg and not character dmg therefore literally everyone can deal millions of dmg a hit while using 2H+Q6 set and as i´ve seen so far dks burn it fast as hell but they are practically the only ones who can use andermagic ess (even tho it´s for Hide duration only) for more than 2s before they die and once again dwarfs can kill countless bosses within seconds for the same price for which all other classes kill maybe half of them
    E.g my guild master can solo inf4 herald for full group with new green ess within 1min while my mage with every single stat higher + the Q6 set can do so in such time for only 3 people which by what i remember is few million dmg dif
    Also not mentioning the ess dif again :D
    As well i feel ur 1H pain i was planning on making gwena off-hand based build but as i see how much F-bombs are dropped around and how much we are forced to repeat all what we did im just sitting around with BM wasting 2y of core farming by thousands a piece bcs of tiers and small adjustments just to be nerfed to the ground in regard of enchantments and gear base lines when the great awaited CE comes to move lvl cap by 5lvls just so we can pay for double numbers with half the effect for few more years


    So overall the essences are usefull but they should not work as they do in regard of origin and usability they are just too overpowered and the matter of element is sort of irrelevant as they make old essences obsolete one way or another
    I think eb would appreciate proper class and mob/boss scaling balance patch instead of slopy done overbuffed essences which doesnt fulfill the intention with which they were created nor are still competitive with the old ones



    (Also if sb wanna blame me please do so if you cant help yourself but try yourself first and speak just then)
    also andermagic ess deals % base dmg /attack while mortis has 0.5% kill chance per kill
    therefore it is ideal for bosses who has no minions to kill if you dont die e.g i4 herald
     
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  14. sargon234

    sargon234 Forum Demigod

    Ah yes, the achievements aren't even working properly, of course.

    And yes, the fact that the purple zone is random is bad, it is very bad.

    Also, why putting it that water collecting mechanic?
    We already have to waste an enourmous amount of frags just to do the event and then we have nonsense like that.

    Like i said, the drop rate for realm fragments needs to be restored to what it was in the past, no excuses here.
    And the costs for the event entrances should be lowered by 30% or more.

    And the random aspect of that purple zone should be removed, the black arc should be replaced with a purple arc or it should give the purple zone 100%.

    As it stands now, the only useful part of this nonsensical event are the skins, the pets, the auras and the elemental essences( which, given their plans for the game, are going to be needed).

    These devs should at least bother to play their own game to understand it, without god modes, also, but using an end game character( we'll assume a 2h user, because 1h builds are sadly, not open for everyone).
     
  15. ImmortalDeath

    ImmortalDeath Junior Expert

    Interesting, so either you are playing 16 hours a day or constantly using 20+ ess a second :D

    Come on, be reasonable. Most people use maybe 20k a day, if they are on for several hours. Plus, you would only use these new essences for inf7 bosses, right? So getting 10k of the new essences isn't so bad for people wanting to push endgame. And getting 2k of new essences (easy even for noob) could be worth it for noob trying to do pw or event.
     
  16. TwiliShadow

    TwiliShadow Forum Veteran

    Not always a "low" chance. I tried it in New Moon map and in 1 run Mortis came and collected me 10 times in 80% of the map. and what I learned is that there is no way to avoid Mortis when he comes... you can't run, you can't jump, you can't teleport, you can't fly... you can use second chance and survive till he comes back 5 seconds later and takes you anyway (that happened twice in that map).
     
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  17. deadland38

    deadland38 Forum Apprentice

    Yes, that's the worst point of random, sometimes it kills you 10 times in a single map but sometimes it won't even after 10 maps ... that's why i don't use it always because this set isn't viable for "long use"
     
  18. vkillerx

    vkillerx Forum Pro

    Most of high end mages spent very close to that as well as most of rangers with 3.6-4 at,s which traki most likely has as he uses 1H build and obviously most of the dks as well
    i myself spend over 70k white a day with maybe 3-4h of gameplay these days

    Midgets are an exepction as they literally can kill things with placing down just 2 mecha turrets with cost of 5ess per turret if they really want to save up
     
  19. sargon234

    sargon234 Forum Demigod

    You don't understand, 1h hand players consume much more essences than 2 hand players.
     
  20. Marsicanus

    Marsicanus Exceptional Talent

    agree 100.000%

    @DEVS: don't reset DoE quests so maybe in the future we can complete them
     
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