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  1. soxx101

    soxx101 Forum Connoisseur

    there will always be others better than you at something, you cant win everything thats life...but you can always improve and be the best you can be...
     
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  2. -Faeriequeen22-

    -Faeriequeen22- Forum Mogul

    Hey, I didn't fight, you did - and that's proving my point, it's not cool to break groups apart :p
    Arena is terribly boring when you play it with random people. They don't swear with me in skype/chat and it's not funny to loose with randoms :rolleyes:
     
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  3. NightWalker

    NightWalker Board Analyst

    Well, sometimes things are just unfair. I tried using my dwarf at level 40 who was a legionnaire (I trained my dwarf just for the dwarf event) too see what I got for a match. When I joined a duel, I was fighting a marshal. Really, nice matchup. A legionnaire should never be allowed to fight a marshal. Next I went into 5v5. The opponent's team had a full team of 45 flag bearer or marshal. Our highest rank in the team was a seasoned knight.
     
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  4. trakilaki

    trakilaki Living Forum Legend

    I did????
    I did not wanted to join your group at first place ... you know that I always play alone. At least until I was playing arena ... 6-7 months ago.
    There have to be at least 2 people for fight.

    If there is no grouping ... then there will no breaking groups apart.
    Skype, chat, video conferences ... for game??? Remind me later ... I got this friend of mine ... he is close friends with US government officials ... he could put some good words to them ... who knows ... maybe they could give you permission to use their military radar system for arena battles :p :D
     
  5. -Faeriequeen22-

    -Faeriequeen22- Forum Mogul

    Kitiiiiiiiiii, I love you :D Playing alone may be your style, but it's not how everyone wants to function, you have to allow others to play the way they like :p

    Believe it or not, it's a bit easier to play while you know what's going on in other corners of the map, and to agree who does what and goes where :rolleyes: And it's funny to listen nervous breaks downs when we face buffers (and you know who I'm talking about here ahahaha :cool: ), you should join us :p
     
  6. paprika

    paprika Forum Apprentice


    Haha man you are funny. Why only 10 level difference ? Why not 40 level difference ? Haha.

    Stupid idea at all. After your patch only 10 people will kill whole the arena on each rank and you'll loose every single match.

    Stop to cry and start to think. If you have lvl 45 recruit, it's only your problem.
    May be it would be good idea to delete this useless char and start again from lvl1.
     
  7. Roztoč

    Roztoč Forum Greenhorn

    Making arena Rank vs Rank at 10 lvl difference will not work.

    It's not motivating but demotivating. Nobody will play arena except of lvl 45.
    35 will not play against 45, 25 will not play against 35, 15agains 25 and 5 against 15 lvl.

    If you will "balance" arena like this you will reduce whole arena to lvl 43-45 and all the rank above flag bearer - especially marshals and grand marshals will have stop to play because it is silly to wait half a day for another marshal - grand marshal.

    May be duel will be working, but hardly 3vs3. 5vs5 and 6vs6 will not work at all.

    The consequence will be, that half of big rank player will stop playing the game as well as many low lvl players will stop the game including many payers.

    This change would ruin Drakensang in a week. I propose this.

    Separate arena lvl 1-29, 30-39, 40-45

    lvl limitation +-5 levels in each section regardless the rank

    so it will be ok to make duel lvl 6 koto vs lvl 1 recruit but not lvl 30 koto vs lvl 29 koto

    People will not wait, arena will be less balanced but who cares. We will have a pvp every second and nobody will need to exhaust opponent.
     
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  8. multitoonz

    multitoonz Forum Great Master

    Wow, thanks for your gibberish filled reply. I barely understood the gist of what you tried to say, assuming your home language to english translator is broken.
    Now where did I "cry" about PvP? I could care less about PvP really. See I'm the P2P that has a boatload of those 5 min super buffs from an endless supply of surprise chests and just to annoy Marshalls, Flag Bearers and KoTO's, I'll do 5v5 once in a while, use my buffs and of course red essence and just spam the flag. Always turns out they get mad and just start chasing me down but then it opens up their flag for my teammates. And the team I am on usually wins. Nothing more damaging to the ego than when a legionnaire kills a Marshall. The audacity that I did that...gasp.
    PvP is not fair, it never was, it never will be. I just made a couple of suggestions to balance it out, but then I am sure you're one of those pre-grouped bully players that needs to farm low levels because it makes you so happy. Good for you :)
    I personally do not take the game serious enough to "cry" about anything. My lvl 45's are quite strong and they are legionnaires by MY choice. I could easily afford to craft even better gems and seriously become op, but why? I can still kill lvl 40 fame tree levels with the cheaper alternatives in game. :D
    You have yourself a wonderful day now!
     
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  9. soxx101

    soxx101 Forum Connoisseur

    pvp should be open to anyone that clicks it dont matter if ur lev 1 or 45, it kill or be killed, all out war... no dishonour kills, if you have clicked it then thats your choice..
    there is no be fair in battle....

    always......
    soxx..
     
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  10. MorDerMe

    MorDerMe Forum Apprentice

    I agree... there are several things that affect the play of PvP, none more than being set up against PvP ranks many higher than your team. If you are lucky -- even with experience and some skill -- the higher ranks win. Set up this way, it is just a PvP farming exercise in futility. It is stupid and not fun. It has nothing to do with "not winning al the time". Instead, it has everything to do with being able to compete (as a game).

    The entire PvP arena remains greatly unbalanced. There shouldn't b any surprise that more players don't try it and stay with it.

    Finally, but it is pretty d**n annoying to be active in a PvP battle, just to have another player get the credit for the kill and eventually much more credit towards the talent points. The system needs to be revisited for that to be more balanced and maintain player interest in PvPing.
     
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  11. LucidWolf9

    LucidWolf9 Forum Greenhorn

    Totally agree, that's why I'm quitting drankensang
     
  12. IWantedALongUsername

    IWantedALongUsername Forum Apprentice

    well... you are just repeating what I've been saying for years. One of my chars has 4 duel wins and 1712 duel losses... but Bigpoint thinks, that's fair. Restrict PvP to Level 5+/- on the fame tree. I rather wait an hour for a battle than get used as cannon fodder all the time. :-(
     
  13. NightWalker

    NightWalker Board Analyst

    Then your skill must be really really really terrible or you are a no rank at level 45. Either way, terrible decision making skills to end up with 4 wins and 1712 losses. That isn't bigpoint's fault, it's yours.
     
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  14. IWantedALongUsername

    IWantedALongUsername Forum Apprentice

    well, then, tell me what I'm doing wrong... been listening to this forum... been following suggestions, playing defensive in 5v5, playing duels, playing groups... and lose every time... moving around, trying to stay out of the way and get some shots in here and there... still, not a single win over the past week... bought extra gems... since they were on sale, about $100 worth in dmg and HP... still no win... I guess, I must be stupid then... just like the last battle, where it was a duel, and the first shot that hit me did 9800 damage... like, ***?

    Obviously, I'm doing something wrong there for the other guy to do 9800 dmg in a single shot...
     
  15. trakilaki

    trakilaki Living Forum Legend

    Can you please post your stats and gear?
     
  16. multitoonz

    multitoonz Forum Great Master

    Problem is most lvl 40 fame trees are still using essence and buffs even though they will deny it. At least the ones on Tegan are. Could name a few but it's prohibited lol.
    There's no way to combat it. If you do 5v5, stay by your flag, use ess and just spam shot the opponents as they come into flag. Do whatever you have to, get those super buffs from surprise chests and use them too, kill counts will add honor too. Let the tanks worry about carrying flag, just spam your flag area with as much damage as you can. USE POTS, everyone is doing it lol. Game gives us buffs, pots etc, use them with no guilt. Goal is to make a Marshall mad so he/she forgets the match and decides to chase you down lol, then you know PvP is really fun. Enjoy! :D
     
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  17. MorDerMe

    MorDerMe Forum Apprentice

    Kind of silly, uninformed remark. If "you" are trying to encourage PvP play, you need to have levels where players are not constantly pounded for losses by other players farming them for honor points. If it's not fun. fewer players will PvP. Simple math. So, your remark about your "choice"... really, there is little choice when the matches can be quite imbalanced at times...
     
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  18. soxx101

    soxx101 Forum Connoisseur

    Simple solution get better and you won't get pounded lol, pvp is player vs player so no matter what level you are, you click it thats it.... Simple maths war is not fair...
    When you get lower levels trying to shoot at you because you have pvp on and they think you wont shoot back because you will get dishonour kills then those are wrong lol....They just keep clocking up till they get the message.... WAR IS WAR, no if's or buts....

    Always A Pleasure
    Soxx....
     
  19. spiro_spula

    spiro_spula Forum Connoisseur

    Maybe the n00b is attacking because he/she is too new to the game to notice player level or PvP rank. Being a n00b, they probably don't know anything about dishonorable kills either. Anyway, most stop after you point out that the endeavor is pointless.
     
  20. Rory34390

    Rory34390 Someday Author

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