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  1. rpfo

    rpfo Padavan

    Well , everybody know after 40 we will face a lot of good and stronger players. And pvp is based on lvls , so a lvl 40 will for sure face a lvl 45. Ranks , if its marshals , flags and bla bla blas dont count too much. A lot of them have 2 years farming bro, if u dont have it (like me) , all we can do is die :D
     
  2. MANOJ

    MANOJ Forum Pro

    One of many unfair matches I have fought.
    Good thing, I was the stronger one :D
    5 levels and 7 ranks apart and far apart in PvP experience too. Few more fights like these and that guy won't do PvP there after.
    This game is losing a lot of PvP players due to such UNFAIR MATCHMAKING.
    [​IMG]
     
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  3. MegaNuker

    MegaNuker Forum Ambassador

    Ok here is why it is 5 levels. If you increase the level difference game mechanics will not award you exp if you 29 killing a 23.

    I do agree there needs something changed but since I don't know what changes should be made I'll remain silent. Suggestion is stronger than complaint.
     
  4. DesertKoala

    DesertKoala Forum Pro

    Soresville.

    Look, you can't fix PVP until you increase the total number of available PVP players. Only then can ELO match fairly. Simply put, ALL of the DSO servers have to be combined for PVP to match both quickly and fairly. Until then, the matchmaking system is going to try and find you a quick match which means getting opponents you find less than desirable.

    Since implementing this is likely not going to happen.

    Easiest Option
    1. Separate ALL 45 from the remaining levels. It is annoying for both sides as it sits today. For sub-Flag-Bearers, you don't like going against FB and Marshalls. For 45s of high Fame Rank, we don't like getting grouped with 44s. Seperating out the end-gamers will help a bit.
    2. When XP Level and Fame Level are different by more than 5, prevent that Toon from registering for PVP. That will force their behavior to change. They will have to XP level up to find a match thus increasing the population size for that Fame bracket. Over time, that will gradually force the twinks to move up to 45. They can stay where they are today and just chat in Urbans but they can't get a match until they reconcile their XP level to their Fame level. This includes not allowing them to PVP in the wilderness.
     
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  5. _Baragain_

    _Baragain_ Living Forum Legend

    I actually like this more than the standard suggestion of limiting their fame level to being no higher than their xp level. In that situation, they could conceivable farm all their honor so that when they leveled up to 40 suddenly, they would be able to level up their fame at the same time. Also, the idea of not allowing them to PvP in wilderness would be nice too. The only place this would be a problem would be Balor as they have the always-on-pvp thing going on. An extension to what you said would also be to not allow them into the city arenas too as another limitation to their twinking.
     
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  6. trakilaki

    trakilaki Living Forum Legend

    True.
    I don't like playing against lower level players. I am just wasting my time ... because they give me less honor points.
    What I like the most ... are noob twinks that just reached level 45. I love those marshals and field marshals ... because they are one shot dead ... and they are giving me a lot of honor points (my level and high rank). :D
     
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  7. Dzessi

    Dzessi Forum Greenhorn

    PVP at lower level is 70% of time huge pile of manure. I have 2 characters at lvl32 and 21 and arena is full of twinks who farm and cash themselves up. Ridiculous to play against people who crit you 3k (my lvl32 DK with 55% reduction from armor) or 500 against my dwarf while i can't even scratch them.

    Latest patch shows how much greed is Big Point full of ... They could make pvp so much more fair but nah, need those low ego punks to spend for gems etc
     
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  8. IWantedALongUsername

    IWantedALongUsername Forum Apprentice

    Well, today marks the third anniversary of me complaining about PvP and nothing has changed... wow. That's how much Bigpoint want to fix this. Oh, something has changed. Instead of having 2 or 3 OPs in every battle, you now have 9 OPs in 5v5. Tonight we had a Spellweaver with over 2.5k dmg and 2.7 speed. Lightning chain spamming non-stop. I have a DK with over 12000 hitpoints and 72% armour and over 800 block and I get one shot all the time. I have a ranger with over 9000 hitpoints and I do over 1500 base damage and I can't get some of these spellweavers even damaged. This is crap. It's been going on too long. And they are not doing anything about it. Contempt for the customer. All it is. Last time I waste money on premium.
     
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  9. ToshiBoy

    ToshiBoy Someday Author

    .. and I am sitting here with my Lv26 Dwarf and can't get a battle for 45 minutes and then when I finally get one, I am up against a Lv21 KOTO...? ***.
     
  10. BigPapa

    BigPapa Forum Overlooker

    I've noticed the longer you wait for a 1v1 the more likely it is to be unbalanced or, if you get one quickly and it is unbalance it is likely the opponent has been registered a while.
     
  11. fourtwenty68

    fourtwenty68 Board Analyst

    i dont mind how it is right now,i got to seasoned knight 45 sw.through all the mismatches,makes me play harder and smarter.
    its a challenge.thats all
    and when it becomes in my favor,well all i can say is Hulk Smash :D
    take away Immune and it will be fairer
     
  12. ToshiBoy

    ToshiBoy Someday Author

    and take away the stupid blow up when someone dies. Some of those do >15k damage... where is the point..?
     
  13. Darwarren

    Darwarren Count Count

    Soldiers often blow up. They carry explosives and incindiaries that go boom.
    It also helps keep the mentally challenged from defiling the corpse.
    And clearing an area certainly can give a tactical advantage.

    Keep moving.
     
    Last edited: Mar 27, 2015
  14. trakilaki

    trakilaki Living Forum Legend

    :D:D
    Man 2-3 years of whining indeed.
    You have spent thousands of dollars and still can't win. Well don't play PVP ... focus on PVE.
     
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  15. cdeepal

    cdeepal Forum Baron

    I don't understand your suggestion. You are level 45 and they are level 45, so what is the difference? All have the same opportunity to make your character stronger.
    If your fame level is low, just try to get it higher.

    However, pairing up players lower than level 45 with level 45 is totally unfair. I am at level 41 with crappy gear and I certainly have no chance against a level 45 players. It is simply a joke.
     
  16. IWantedALongUsername

    IWantedALongUsername Forum Apprentice

    I would Trakilaki... I would... but I'm all out of quests... and Level 50 is so far away... and even once 50 comes.... PvP will still be bull.
     
  17. trakilaki

    trakilaki Living Forum Legend

    We are all out of quests long time ago. Farm for GoP's or anything you want ...
     
  18. fourtwenty68

    fourtwenty68 Board Analyst

    that is totally useless in pvp,i dont think anyone likes that,wait,one might.lol
    we have enough things to dodge and worry about,dk n sw n sm blowup all over the place,,suicide bombers.:eek:
     
  19. June

    June Forum Greenhorn

    [​IMG]
    Blue Team had 3 same guild members (Field marshal、Marshal、Seasoned knight of order)


    [​IMG]
    Blue Team had 4 same guild members besides one marshal

    Is it still fair?!
     
    Last edited: Mar 26, 2015
  20. Darwarren

    Darwarren Count Count

    The pool of players for 6v6 has dried up, and it's very hard to find matches.

    Even DSO knows the map is skewed to favor the Red team over the Blue, but the map doesn't change.
    In the 2nd phase the Red team gets several hp regeneration stations, the blue team gets 1.
    Travel time to the front lines is much bigger for the blue team in both phases of battle.

    Most players do not enjoy losing, even if they get lots of fame points. So why play, when you get the blue team 13 times in a row?
    Talk about fairness, the game is rigged going in.
     
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