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Do you consider that all of banned players deserve eternal ban?

Poll closed May 6, 2014.
  1. Yes,all eternal ban

    72.7%
  2. No,the ban unfairly, they deserve a second chance

    27.3%
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  1. Недовольный

    Недовольный Forum Connoisseur

    The above survey, but before voting it please read the entire post and then to vote (The poll will be held for 10 days,after which all can send the developer?).

    I wanted to talk about the ban,bots, etc programs,bugs and touch upon many topics, to Express the opinion of the player are in DSO almost 2 years, playing every day.


    Starts from the moment when the left accounts did send in chat rooms by calling for the use bot programs.
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    What did you do at this time in Bigpoint and what have they done to stop it?
    Judging from the fact created on the forum bot program,it works with approximately 106 patch and again what they did in Bigpoint such a long time? 106 the patch has been installed in approximately June 2013! And judging from 1 screenshot above, where in the lower left corner written 105 patch bots were even earlier.

    June,July,August,September,November,December,January,February,March
    time goes on, but you did nothing,9 month. So long bot players fueled,you anything done to prevent this in the early stages?Nothing! For so many months, many players wrote to customer support and forums, bot programs, some made the video,as for example (An0nymy0us),but all they have existed for nothing some people decided if no one no not do then why can't I do this on to use it? I had not heard before 123 patch that would someone banned for a bot or a bug though judging from the forum was banning them for 7 days as a first warning. If this was where Nicky these players? Not who did not write on the forum Ban in the game too, not what is heard. But if it was then why have you decided that the ban for 7 days is not effective? Do you think that people robots and absolutely all are thinking the same and do the same? Why 123 patch for 7 days were not banned players fell for the first time? Not everyone got the first ban will violate the second time, to say goodbye to your account forever. Especially the players have a well pumped characters spent their time,money and nerves. The same one and a half years and more in the game with frequent online is not a short time,and you take and indiscriminately in permanent without a chance.


    Among the suspended players there are people who used the bot: 1. from once to several months; 2. among them there are people using only autoloot; 3. if it is true on the Polish forum, the ban was even changed kind of game that would make a nice screenshots on this moderator replied that it is forbidden to use any programs.

    1. Why not been conducted monitoring of these "bot players" and not verified time which they have been using it? How to banish forever players used this thing once or a couple. How do you decide what they're going to once again use? After buying a new product in the store and if you don't like it you are going to choke but eat or in the trash throw? If a person has launched once a bot is not to say that he will use all the time. Maybe the man just wondering how this works? Among suspended there are also players who were never involved in the game cause why the first ban forever? Where a warning to the player's account? Mitigation of the sentence for good behavior?:)

    2. What is autoloot? This program collects a drop from the floor, almost all who enjoyed bought a premium account which performs THE SAME FUNCTION. The only thing the program additionally collected primer blue,fioletovye,legendary things that could not be done premium account. The player himself had to farm. To raise with the program a couple of things while having a premium account this advantage? Oh my God, he saved a couple of seconds, not himself clicked on fallen drop,and for him, the program raised,"real and serious advantage":confused:. These players also received a ban with the words you used a bot and banned forever.

    3. If it is true that some of those players banned it full Breda here at all what advantage? In the picture made by the player? He is changing the type of the game and become invincible? .​

    By the way, in your videos trailer also used this program. In Bigpoint use it,and players are banned for it, urging people not to use third party programs themselves when they are used in order to make "an exciting video. And another thing among the ban was a number of administrators and moderators of people require us to comply with the rules of the forum and the game itself is breaking them. And how you want to arrange in order,violating its own rules? Unless rules are not equal for all or for some individuals, there are exceptions? this will add what vidio An0nymy0us not all bot players banned. And here there is a question how these people escaped punishment used for a long time the bot program but did not fall,and players even once using less time was in ban? I don't understand that. Probably your rules apply to those who do you consider to banish hiding behind the mask of justice. The rule applies to exceptionally well-pumped characters which are almost all made in the game and have frequent online?



    They say that the bot players have the advantage and something about the arena. And I will ask what about bugs? this is also prohibited by the rules of the game 1.2.10 and 8.3. The easy way is received inomants,glyphs,unique things these things also give the advantage of many of these also used. The bot also gave the most benefits from whom it was longer for someone less (because all of the ban did not use a bot program since its release,all these 6000 players not immediately began to use programs). But bugs are not someone not banned simply because the number of players is very big which once used the bug. Ten times more in comparison with 6000 suspended in 123 patch. Then what kind of justice you fight? if a huge number of offenders continued the game? I agree that a third-party program cannot be used but immediately issue a permanent consider not right.


    As you say, "we can't deprive them of things" (I'm about those that players knocked out with a bot program). A strip of Fame players produced a long time, you can do it? :confused: and that was recently obtained you can not write off? Not only that you have removed all the glory "allegedly, these players have the advantage in the arena" so accounts left still to ban. What is the problem? You robbed on the resources You all the glory in the calculation, it is time to mitigate punishment for blocked players. What you lose it? Nothing, among these accounts are as honest players who for years played fair by the rules,and to use started recently program in first launched but because of your inaction,in the past you had to do and show the official message that you caught them. If people will see it (like now for example), then use this will only desperate players. All this can be avoided if you have previously been engaged in protection of the game instead of putting a heap of useless crap in the form: move Kobold in the city,to put people (and courtesans :D) in the city,the animation in the inventory,the green stripe download who cares? No one is asked not who didn't expect it in this game didn't need it useless in the game. Looking after the protection of third-party game programs,timely eliminate,errors such as the same critical terms of the damage from the Archer with a shot when critical damage took place from 125%,175% and 200% I in the game play in 2012, and this bug is fixed only in February 2014. As we wrote you about it on the forums and support? Long time are deprived of the problem,enter not the right things and blame all users here's what they're not good use of the program. So make a program which, when running DSO is not a bot to work,give warning of the player account, or ban for 7 days (one) if the player account roads he never again second time will not use it,and if it is 2 ban permanently . But you didn't. But you didn't.

    Also in the official message us say you on it a long time worked "what bots do not know about your secret mission" are you kidding?
    They worked....if you have long worked then why not verified was what was used and what time? If you would work for a long time it was possible to check and make really fair punishment depending on the time of use third-party software. In the same way "to understand and forgive," because you were silent on the subject of bots, again that would not who did not know,and can understand and forgive players who used it?:rolleyes: The ban was large,everything is understood,it is time to understand and to forgive even those who first caught.

    And to me that's what it is unclear so long months bot program worked and how she had all the time to get around you,how is that? On this I have a few options:

    - first option: you yourselves have created a bot program and tested it calling players but when such players became too much when part of the bot players sitting online for days and was able to completely abandon attachments real money even to premium account you have decided to ban all of them. The same message in the chat together with links to the bot,the chat you cannot copy itself a reference to write a very long time and for example I have a nick that not every Russian user before it was thought to write this,but as a foreigner could do to gain such nick and send me a message? Can you do this and doing? Or employees who for so long, not what was done with a bot players, earning them?

    - second option: actually "worked" ,that you started updating the rules of the game on 2 April, then you began to scan the players on a third-party program this confirms why the old bot players (from vidio) have not been banned and why it is so not fair were banned players who first used it or even autoloot. All without discrimination blocked for a bot which some have not even used. This is more true like)

    - a third option: you incompetent people work which for such a long time could not detect bots and coming new leadership decided barrels for these users to throw banned forever.


    I seriously don't understand it, quite a large company, and certainly people should hire good to perform quality work. But what you are doing and what decisions are beyond the scope of normality. Why procrastinate and wait until many players will be using? In no sense if dawdling for another half year or year that half of all servers would play with third-party SOFTWARE. We worked long and specially silence more like an excuse. You limit from the game, those who used it and brought the money so do you, but do not strive with the bot program because the developer bot program these people are just a way of earning their banned, will come new who will use this people who will use third party programs will always be and if you on it a long time all worked why the bot program and continued working even after 123 patch? If you want to fight this, please think of protection so that the bot would not worked with DSO and then use is not who will not be able.

    Just for example, began to play a new game strategy (there can withdraw money),so creating a second account and another character on the same server where the first account. The developer within 2 days discovered this and a second account banned for allowedto (mult),and at first sent a warning that if it is to repeat your main account will be blocked as well. I mean, I say that in a short time it was discovered,2nd account was blocked and the user was warned it was all done in 2 days. If the same thing was done with players who have used any third party programs (even small period of time), and his account in the first was banned for a certain period, to email this player would come a warning of a second violation will be banned forever the number is not fair players would marginally. But not done with a bot programs for a very long time "search".


    The forum seems designed to connect users and developers and they read what we write it?


    So, please pass on my dissatisfaction and let them spend a little of your time to read my comment and translator venerate the theme "on ban bots" in all forums, it is real in a few hours to read. What should you pay attention to? The number of players unsubscribed about unfair ban,the number of these players from all forums pull even for 200 persons if at all drawn to 100, about 6000 players are silent. Let's look over here (https://www.change.org/ru/петиции/b...fter-the-big-ban-bot-wave-of-april-unban-them).
    Just 540 people have signed up from 6000. People from all over the world, asking you to give them a chance among 500 people subscribed there also people who lost their friends by this ban. If you give at least this part of the signatory players the chance, they will not violate the rules,trying eternal ban on the account in which invested a lot of time (some have a lot of money) and nerves, given the chance they will not violate the rules. You have deprived them even of fame,it's time to give players the ability to go back and honestly to play their characters.

    I will add only that in additional punishment on such players to hang aura that they could receive less 30-50% drop (glyphs with melting,things of gold from the sale of things,number inomants,gold and crystals smaller drop,less fame) for a couple of weeks and the time will be taken away when the character is in the game, such is the punishment will be more than enough. Players who have spent their characters a year or more precisely will not return to work bot,and even if someone so there you may already be banned forever the warning was entering 123 patch and issuing bans.

    Please no flood, messages in the case, you agree with me? Or not and why?
     
  2. trakilaki

    trakilaki Living Forum Legend

    Are you finished with your endless rant?
    Now let me ask you something? Which other game is giving you a second chance for cheating? If there is that kind of game ... good ... you can go there and play that game, don't come back here.
    I have been playing games since i was in diapers ... and i know that noone gives second chance. To prove to you the fact ... i just logged in in one game that I was playing 4-5 years ago. The game sucked big ... I was playing it only for a bet. Me and my friend ... we were on a bet ... he was playing this game for 1 year and i just came in. The bet was: "I can surpass his level and strength in one week".
    And yes I did. I have won the bet ... and a ban as well.
    I got no warning no 3-7 day ban but permanent one. And I wasn't concerned about it because I never planed to continue playing that game.
    That was 4-5 years ago ... and now I am to log in and capture the screen to show you that I am still banned. Forever.

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    Yes ban! Every cheater deserve permanent BAN!

    But the point is not the players but bot developers are the ones who get most concerned. They can not make profit anymore.
    Hmmm gooooddd!

    Leave it be ... you will not get your accounts back.
    Start another one and play fair!

    And to make things clearer ... YOU cheaters are not missed by anyone. Every single fair player is happy because you got banned.

    Tadadaaaa!
     
    Last edited: Apr 27, 2014
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