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  1. dkisbestithink

    dkisbestithink Forum Apprentice

    I want to play dk but I read too much threads about dk and they all saying "dk is very bad now" is it right and can I farm solo with dk if I play with it ?
  2. kuwabaraz

    kuwabaraz Forum Duke

    It's not powerful, it's just a bad class.

    The game alone has been downgraded at this time so you are forced to play in a group and only very strong users can play alone, but if you think you are playing alone against bosses you have wrong class.

    You will have a higher essence consumption and costs in general, and a lower survival with a damage set.

    The abilities full of bugs

    If you think of making a defensive set you are still wrong the other classes have support skills, to replace you but with more damage and a better armor breaker, you will find yourself bad even in this situation.

    That's all I generally advise against doing the Dk, it's a mess
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  3. dkisbestithink

    dkisbestithink Forum Apprentice

    wow thanks bro ı will think about playing a dwarf or a mage which one do you advice mage or dwarf ?
  4. vincfang888

    vincfang888 Forum Apprentice

    just go play ranger or mage,but ranger is better with solo
    You will beg for group all the time if you are on dk
  5. mark-kim-8888

    mark-kim-8888 Regular

  6. kuwabaraz

    kuwabaraz Forum Duke

    There are also other videos but they are not so truthful, you don't know the stats and what it is using. Of course 20 million versus 4 million is a big difference in damage.

    What you can best understand from the video is how the skills work and the ones that don't work are Dk's.

    There is another video built a bit like that but if you don't use 2 armor breakers to go below -100% you don't do that damage and maybe someone with the items goes even to -140%.
  7. Maxbastard

    Maxbastard Forum Greenhorn

    i think they have to do something about dks dont look the players that have 200 wisdom lvl for a new one its pain to beat anything in this game!
  8. ZEFYR1-CR

    ZEFYR1-CR Forum Connoisseur

    really 9 min?:) i try also make this and i m noob :) not top players
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  9. sargon234

    sargon234 Commander of the Forum

    What is it with these noobs complaining classes are too powerful?

    Are they shills trying to manifacture consent for the upcoming nerfs that BP is planning?
    it's not working, the game is obvious.
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  10. ΣMiwel

    ΣMiwel Forum Ambassador

    If you mean the post above you, that's not complaining the class is too powerful, but rather a video showing that the people above whining about their class being "soooo weak" actually can't play. I repeat, there are lots of problems, but man...

    You keep saying that the fix of the oil slick is a "fix". No. Don't even dare to compare that to the mind control "fix". This is clearly a bug in something introduced in a recent update... and it's ok they fixed it. Mind control was in that way for years and had a description matching the effect, later they changed the description, and then they claimed the effect not matching the new description is a bug, and changed the effect to match the new description. That is a nerf in disguise, the oil slick fix isn't. Singularity is working (as far as I know) exactly as stated in description, hence it isn't going to be fixed... unless the whiners you keep defending cry enough, giving the "community support" for nerf. You are being the shill currently by supporting those "imbalance seekers".
  11. kuwabaraz

    kuwabaraz Forum Duke

    Nice video but it's not the same! The damage is different in terms of skills and also in statistics, the times are different, if you look at the consumption of higher essences, so many problems!
    Ps there are some bugs that will be fixed because they do not match the skills after which it will no longer be the case.

    See that even the magician has his beautiful bugs as always otherwise those damage would be lower!

    But I say what kind of fixes you want to do in this way, you will make everyone bicker, the skills had to be bug-free, with each fix you just unbalance the game on one class or the other.
  12. mark-kim-8888

    mark-kim-8888 Regular

    This is work Bp bro:D:D:D
    Last edited: Mar 29, 2021
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  13. ZEFYR1-CR

    ZEFYR1-CR Forum Connoisseur


    i dont care about statistic or skills or essences
    i see video here war 9 min and mage 40sec
    i only show war are not weak and also i dont care what mage have :)
  14. Dark59

    Dark59 Old Hand

    The balance in this game is so good that after seven years of playing as a warrior, I switched to a mage. :oops:

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  15. ZEFYR1-CR

    ZEFYR1-CR Forum Connoisseur

    like many players before dwarf start ,big dmg dont need much ess and all kill for 20 sec:) so all players leave primary class and start play with dwarf now is the same sitution all start play with mage because people like easy and cheaper the way but its ok:) i dont have any problem :)
  16. kuwabaraz

    kuwabaraz Forum Duke

    I understand your point of view and respect it, but I keep feeling scammed every time I use essences, whenever it takes twice as long and every time I see high damage classes taking out challenging bosses effortlessly and I know if it stays that way the difference will be greater.
    It's just my thought and you can have fun with little.

    Giving advice is complicated, they wrote that they know about the imbalance. So recommending one class over another is wrong. However, at the moment the best class is that of hunters.
    Last edited: Mar 30, 2021
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  17. sargon234

    sargon234 Commander of the Forum

    When they introduced this bug?
    Yes, i know that its combination with khalys' mask is very op and that those high level players who complained about having to kill bosses in 1-2 minutes instead of 30 seconds are full of it, but i don't think that they fixed the bug for an honorable reason, they did it because that bug favoured the players, most players.
    They were very quick to fix it, if you didn't notice( while instead delaying the fix to the ring drop and the crafting to r249 and if you ask me, the ring drop was removed on purpose just to scr*w over the players while favouring the clique of cheaters that skulks about discord).
    They were also very quick to unfix it( suggesting that many of BP's bootlickers are high end dwarves), while still the fix for ring drops isn't here and they also broke destructor on purpose( because they saw people farming it to craft, can't have players progressing).

    Of course singularity is working as it is intended, it's one of the few abilities that give some usefulness to mages and one of the abilities that allows to cut boss killing times and anybody who complains about it being too powerful is a shill or an useful idiot( or probably a sockpuppet of jesse and his minions trying to manifacture consent for a nerf,because singurlarity is the thing that actually cuts by a lot the farming times of bosses).
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  18. thebearreturns

    thebearreturns Exceptional Talent

    i'm playing this game sinde 2010-2011.... and have to say i feel quite useless in group, if the group needs to tank other classes have better options than a war (it's not about balancing classes), so if i can't give better chance to tank bosses other classes do, and i cannot give same dmg other classes do.... what is the war contributing to the group?...
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  19. kuwabaraz

    kuwabaraz Forum Duke

    Obviously none, for more than 2 years and the EC has not changed anything.
  20. ΣMiwel

    ΣMiwel Forum Ambassador

    With a correct build, DK can keep the boss armour-broken virtually all the time (except for the time when the boss shield is up), giving way for rangers and for some dwarf and mage builds to deal lots of damage. DK can also deal a lot of damage... but again, you have to set your skills correctly. And of course tanking is easier with DK than with any other class, because mage is dependent on boss' summons (boss with few summons or low-hp summons is therefore no-go, guardian doesn't taunt), ranger can't taunt all the time, and wolfs tend to die on many bosses rather quickly (so no healing either), and dwarf... well, it takes quite a lot of skills (in both senses) to tank for a group with a dwarf. Meanwhile DK has lots of flexibility: good damage when needed (smash, BWS, MWS, FotD, offensive path talent), good defence and healing when needed (DH, spiked shield, defensive path talent), good cooldown and resource management (banner, rage attack, RS, FBC, offensive & defensive path talents), good armour-breaks (outburst, GB, headbutt), good taunting (outburst, MWS). Put together a correct build, and you beat the other classes in everything.

    I can (sort of) understand the whining of dwarfs, who got nerfed, in the recent times, a lot (compared to their previous OP standing). But guys, DK got lots of improvements and better balancing than I had expected of them in the CE. Please try to think about the possibilities available out there, for once.