Jesters need to be reworked

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  1. fourtwenty68

    fourtwenty68 Board Analyst

    spending gold at lvl 45 on jesters.
    1 gold gives you 5 blue ess/ or 1 key/or silver ect.
    why is this for lvl 6 to 45??
    make it so its consistent with our levels.
    1 gold = 250 blue ess.
    prizes n rewards should be something of equal or more value,not a carnival,winning a 2 cent prize for 5 dollars.
    beginning to think you are making this game for 5 yr olds.
    its a big problem throwing away gold for joke rewards.
    and i just notice a 2gold prize now,that i have never seen.
    make it worth playing.
  2. BigPapa

    BigPapa Forum Overlooker

    :) Payback when you gamble is based on how much you bet, not on how old you are.
  3. fourtwenty68

    fourtwenty68 Board Analyst

    right,but this is a video game,not a casino.
    as it is we have to sell all are extr,legends n uniques to make gold.which is not acceptable.
    oh lets put crafting at 98 gold for a leg.fine if u just make gold more common,which its not.thats a brainstorm.
    they have not touched the coin drops but they sure making everything expensive.
    i never said anything based on your comment.(age to gamble)
    shouldn't you be trying to help your fellow gamers and point out things that need to be fixed.
    its no wonder why this game is the way it is for so long now.,not to be rude.
  4. BigPapa

    BigPapa Forum Overlooker

    Yep, I got your original thought. Your suggestion was to increase payback based on character level. My comment was that payback from gambling(Jesters) is based on input(size of wager) not an extraneous personal factor like level (age). I could reverse your thought and say that since coin drops are higher in more advanced dungeons and sold gear gets you more gold at higher levels, you have more to spend and should therefor have to bet more than a low level guy to get the same reward. Now that would stink.

    Helping out fellow gamers and pointing things out that need to be fixed is indeed one of the great uses of the forum. For that reason a discussion with multiple opinions ensues when someone comes up with an idea and we, as a community, filter the good from the bad suggestions and help the Mod's decide what gets forwarded to the dev's. It's usually things based on solid logic and original thought. In this case I was pointing out a what I feel is a fallacy in your concept. But hey, just my opinion, others will weigh in.
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  5. -DeathsRevenge-

    -DeathsRevenge- Advanced

    Would be nice if gilded clover could drop, of course as extremely rare. :)
  6. awaroa

    awaroa Advanced

    quote from fourtwenty67 : oh lets put crafting at 98 gold for a leg.fine if u just make gold more common,which its not.thats a brainstorm.

    I think you forgot about this ,way back you needed to collect crystals to open a legi item. hours of play to get the crystals,now no need to do that its been replaced by
    collecting some gold and 100 gold can be done in less time then collecting 1200 crystals
  7. fourtwenty68

    fourtwenty68 Board Analyst

    I know,but they never increase the means to achieve such things,
    I get 15+ or - gold in map2 on one run.Not in coin drops.which i Should be getting at lvl 10 runs for gold then another 1 run to craft 1 leg. 11 runs could be cut down if i had 15 gold in coin drops +sell some gear and have gear left to craft.
    so,does it make sense to sell all my gear for gold to pay for crafting,now i have no gear to craft and play jesters.
    Last edited: Mar 25, 2015
  8. Perfect[IoN]1

    Perfect[IoN]1 Junior Expert

    the items variable's on gloves and boots have gone up and the max critical % on alot of other items, i can say thats a good way to pump more gold into the system. i think its fair ive seens jackpots and clove's given.
    i do think they should add more options such as 10gold and 20anders mayb even add some new goody items like repair kits and mana potions :)
  9. Knightofyourlife

    Knightofyourlife Someday Author

    I have never understood why people are having problems with gaining gold.
    If you farm and sell the items you find you get lots of money. After a farming run (you should be full, always kill and fill before you go back to town) have a look at the items, some items have higher cash price and some low, the low cash price you melt the high cash price you sell, eg green lvl 45 boots most of them have 10 silver and 100 glyphs, well that's a melt, another pair may have 45 silver and a 100 glyphs well that's half a gold so its a sell. then there are blue's any blue item of lvl 45 that has a silver price of less than 41 I melt, any that has a silver price of 41 or more I sell. extra's of lvl 45 I sell most of the time, because most are over 1 gold each, any that are below a gold I melt.
    I always melt leg's and unique's because the glyphs run it to thousands.
    white items if you are not full you may as well pick them up and sell them every little helps, also white amulets are worth as much or more than green items.
    Green, blue and extra, of lvl's below 45 I always sell the lot, I never even look at there melt value.

    I only craft when I really have to most of the time there is no need. yes it is expensive but it has to be because if it was cheep legs would not be special they would be common, also you would not get that little rush when you see one drop or when you do get the gold together to craft one.

    The clowns:
    If you use the clowns in the right way they are a great tool.
    Only ever give the clowns money when you want some essence, and you will be happy when you get some thing better like a gem or a spirit stone or some potions etc.
    Low lvl toons bet 1 gold at a time high lvl toons bet 5 gold at a time.
    When you bet always remember the clowns (dso) wish to make you skint.
    so never let them!
    always know how many times you are going to bet in one session and NEVER!! break it. always walk away when you have done.
    prepare for the betting session by farming a set amount. and always farm more gold than you bet
    Eg I farm 200 gold and then bet 100 gold in 20 bets of 5 gold, this way your gold always go's up and never down.
    Last edited: Mar 31, 2015
  10. SailorSaturn

    SailorSaturn Padavan

    Hear, hear! Then perhaps obtaining the Knights of the Round Table wouldn't be such a bloody pipe dream!
  11. Knightofyourlife

    Knightofyourlife Someday Author

    agreed, I do not think the clowns need to be reworked because the big money spenders in the game would take the rewards and the normal players would not see much of a benefit,
    But for the gilded clover to be a extremely rare drop is a good idea.
  12. Novadude

    Novadude Commander of the Forum

    I melt all legendaries and uniques I'm not keeping; i also melt all extraordinaries. Green items over 15 silver and blue items over 60 silver get sold, rest get melted. Still have quite a few more glyphs to pour into my gear.

    Whenever i get over 1100 gold i go on a gambling spree.

    System seems to work fine.
  13. Knightofyourlife

    Knightofyourlife Someday Author

    The last post I left on this thread was my current oppinon. This is bases on the asumtion that all jackpots are avilible for all bets. 1 gold 5 gold 40 anders 200 anders, the chance of a jackpot is much greater for a 200 ander bet, If however I am wrong and the jackpot prizes are only avalible for a 200 ander bet then the system is descusting and need's to be reworked at one's, but I do not expect that bigpoint is that lousy and evil.
    Last edited: Apr 1, 2015
  14. thedarkestlight

    thedarkestlight Advanced

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  15. Knightofyourlife

    Knightofyourlife Someday Author

    Thank you so very much for highlighting my typographical error.
  16. Morinphen

    Morinphen Forum Overlooker

    But it was such a good typo! I think he meant to say how unintentionally cool it turned out xD.
    [quote removed]
    Let that be a lesson learned: don't gamble. Simple as that. Maybe if you really have nothing else to do with your Ander or gold... but even then, I wouldn't. Only wasted about 50 gold with the Jesters myself, and since then, I knew they shouldn't be something I pay attention to, even if those gems, Ander prizes or the Gilded Clovers might be super-rewards.
    Last edited by moderator: Apr 1, 2015
  17. Knightofyourlife

    Knightofyourlife Someday Author

    I apologize to thedarkestlight for being curt.
    It was a cool typo I will not deny that, But I did have to be honest and admit that it was not deliberate and try and pass it off as a clever word play.
    As far as jesters I gamble all the time because I get war and destruction essence for gold.
    I am just a little bit concerned about all the people in my guild that are betting gold thinking they have a chance to win a jackpot prize.
    If this is not the case it needs to be clear in game when you look at the possible jackpots that the prizes are only available for anderment.
    Last edited: Apr 1, 2015
  18. Evilsheldock

    Evilsheldock Forum Apprentice

    i do bet on the jesters, i prefer the 5 gold bets, rarely spend any andermant there, maybe if i win some from betting gold, however, from a single 5 gold coin bet i did receive 1 gilded clover, so the jackpots are available to gold spenders, probably just very rare :)
  19. Morinphen

    Morinphen Forum Overlooker

    It's just as better if it wasn't intended... so good that mods seemed to have removed the quote from above, LOL (though the post itself is still there, so nice bunch of useless admin edit :p).

    About getting jackpots with gold, I think I have seen people claim they won, even Ander big-prizes, by betting 1 or 5 gold. I don't bet because I find it a waste of coins... the amount of essence given is too low to be worth it, I'd say. Other prizes are also pretty small... only really good things are the hard-to-obtain prizes that require tremendous luck.
  20. nasowas

    nasowas Junior Expert

    I used to be a huge Jester advocate but since they patched and added Gilded Clover, the speed and armor buff gems basically stopped dropping. They did tweak item wins wanting players to spend tons to get clovers to buy the buff gems. I stopped playing Jesters after that patch because it did turn into a huge waste of ander or gold to get the good items.
    It's DSO, they always tweak drop rates/chances to the worst possible % anyway in all items in game eventually. The only thing Jesters are good for now is getting a lot of blue ess quickly, but I had to throw away close to 200k of it to clear inventory and still have 100k of it that will last a very long time if I decide to keep it.
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