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  1. teddy.bear

    teddy.bear Team Leader Team Drakensang Online

    Dear Heroes of Dracania,

    You can find here the July 2020 events schedule.
    You can use this thread to share your feedback regarding the current in game events. Positive or negative, constructive criticism and ideas for improvements are, as always, welcomed. Please keep discussions on topic.

    If you are unsure what sort of feedback is being asked for, please read this thread.
    Any off-topic posts/pointless rants will be deleted.

    Best regards,
    Your Drakensang Online Team
     
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  2. Marsicanus

    Marsicanus Exceptional Talent

    There are some "grind" events and if someone want play and complete all of them, he must play a lot of hours all days...too much for me.

    I'll skip Sewer event because nothing changes from past.
    I've keys (3k) and valve (250) to finish event but but I'm not interested in the rewards.
    In DTU I'm interested only in 4 chest rewards but 3k-4k realms fragments are too much and we drop few of them from months.
    If I think I have a chance to finish it I'll play it otherwise I'll skip
    like I did for the Dragan event. In 10 days I'll got only 40 red pearls and I need 135 to finish it so next time I have more chance to finish it.

    Both events mentioned need a long preparation but we can drop sewer's keys only when event is active so we need farm thousands of keys, play main event, secondary event and 48 mini in 16 days. I think Infested Sewers need a rework

    But it is positive for me.... a player can choose to play 1, 2,..all or none of them.
     
    Last edited: Jul 2, 2020
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  3. CzSamurai

    CzSamurai Forum Apprentice

    Hi, last events have same problem - too long progress on too little time, one event end and second will start.. press to players, who have no time for "free playing" like upgrade of gemstones, farming of realm fragments, clovers from dungeons etc.. and this is for one character playing peoples.. I play two char and this means only one week for long progress, what is not real to do..
    How to make an events better? some notice from me:

    NewMoon(Karabossa): add a bosses to second map, like on Vargulf.. event will be speedy and more favourite

    Dragan: min. 4 weeks long, more red pearls from progress and amforas

    DTU: min 4 weeks long, shorter progress bar, return old nonstop realm fragments drop, chance to choose type of gem from royal gemstone bag

    Sewers: drop of sewers keys set like on first "bug" in Iron hills = number of keys / difficulty of map, not same number on normal or inf3..
    change long progress bar on poisson worms, add pet from mhorblik to progress bar, not only from "random zero chance".. 100% chance to pet king rat, if we find him, same to fine rat.. add old buff to faster progress to shop

    Desert of Essences: cheaper entrance to first map, different price to second map / difficulty (not same for normal or inferno), change dark sphere effect from actuell useless suicidal..

    Anniversary event: possibility to start all 10 waves without long waiting between waves, more random drop from pinata traders..
     
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  4. rcch

    rcch Active Author

    Will skip the sewer event, too much grinding and paying for essences.
    DTU will also be skipped since do not have enough realm frags.
     
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  5. FAALHAAS

    FAALHAAS Regular

    Events used to be 90% of reason I played this game, but lately events became impossible to finish for me. Either I dont have the Realm fragments or the items needed to enter event dont drop enough. Last return of dragan i barely finished 3rd bar even tho I spend hours a day trying to farm red pearls....

    Its just not fun. Most events got nice rewards in progress-bar (most last bar), but since couple months i never make it to the end anymore.


    Also Im still a bit confused with this archievement/progress-bar thing. Just because someone has 7000 points, doesnt mean he is super strong in order to get faster/more progress. Also it doesnt make sense most event are played most effeciently at lower mods. This whole setup is flawed everywhere.


    EDIT: As for LootersFortune. Can this be changed into a buff we can activate when we got time to farm? Allot of times when I login game and see LF is running, I simply dont have time to play for hours. Then couple days later when I do have time the LF isnt running anymore. A clickable buff obtained with bonuscode would solve this.
     
    Last edited: Jul 2, 2020
  6. kuwabaraz

    kuwabaraz Exceptional Talent

    Let's see, in this period, my desire to play your game is very low!

    Honestly, new games will come out this year and I'm more interested in trying those than staying on this one!

    But apart from my persolal considerations, I am very tired of seeing too many events and too many unique items that are useless!

    The balance of the class sucks and when events that require a huge cost of essences come out there are the usual problems!

    In the last few months I have limited myself to not finishing these events and if things continue like this, I skip almost everything!

    In addition, I would like to see more than two new skills to understand if it is worth playing your product from the next expansion!
     
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  7. Javah

    Javah Old Hand

    I do not see anything worthy of comment, they are always the usual events that those who follow the game have already played hundreds of times.

    See past comments and you will already have enough feedback to think about.

    And to this we can add the fact that the only event that I would like to play, The Big Hunt, is the only one that never comes.

    However, at least one smart thing you did, and it is to unify the event feedback threads into a single one, with a monthly duration.
     
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  8. gbit

    gbit Count Count

    Where's the time for normal resources farming? Events cover the entire month...
    For not mentioning that not all events could be called in this way anymore.
     
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  9. Novadude

    Novadude Commander of the Forum

    More unpleasant, grind orient events that can only realistically be accomplished by payers who pay for progress. Even premium subscribers are not able to complete these events. bleh.
     
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  10. ΣMiwel

    ΣMiwel Forum Overlooker

    ...or just make the drop higher regardless of those "events" and remove them back.
     
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  11. Aslandroth

    Aslandroth Padavan

    Having looters misfortune available as an active buff would bring you no benefit because even when it is active, you are still getting less RF drops than before the nerf, by orders of magnitude. Fortunately, BP doesn't forsee needing RF's for many events at all so thiss is actually a good thing for you and me.
    If you ever read 1984, and recall that part about the chocolate rations, it is amazing to see the parallel.

    “Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street building has been renamed, every date has been altered. And the process is continuing day by day and minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Party (BP) is always right.”
     
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  12. Aslandroth

    Aslandroth Padavan

    This.

    Pretty sad state of affairs. I am not a super powerful endgamer, and play usually just one moderately strong lvl 55 DK. But I have had a premium membership since day 1. I used up the last of my RF's on the last DTU, which I did complete. I've put in quite a few hours playing; more than the average player with a family and a job I suspect. I never purchase ports to bosses so really never spend my RF's on anything except a few passes to do the moon events. I tested a few runs in the desert of essences and found that to be too much of a joke for my liking, so can't say I depleted my RF's from farming. Now here we are coming up on a DTU I won't be able to complete, on the heels of the first Dragan event I wasn't able to complete. Bear in mind, I went into this last Dragan event with over 40 red pearls in my inventory from before. I farmed Dragan great hall mostly on Inf 3 and I completed the 3rd bar. Started the 4th but didn't get any rewards. So, for anyone who says this game isn't P2W (When it truth it is actually pay to play - forget winning) how is it that I, with a premium membership, resources from a previous event, and putting in more hours than the average player, on mods harder than the average player can do, was unable to complete the event? Oh yeah, I didn't fork over extra cash on top of my membership fees.

    So no, I won't do the sewers, I may try for a few rewards on the DTU, I won't renew my premium and the minimal cash I contribute to BP (because of their choices, and lies, and scummy business practices) will be reduced to 0 cash.

    I have said it before, and I will repeat, BP good luck maintaining your workloads when your only revenue comes from the few morons that buy your garbage event attire. Giving you any more of my money would be analogous to paying extra for a middle seat on the back row of an American Airlines flight. Not gonna happen.

    But don't forget, you owe this to yourselves. You have worked hard and tirelessly to bring the game to this point and that must not have been easy. Really, pat yourselves on the back for another job well done.

    Thanks BP :)
     
  13. edrogers58

    edrogers58 Active Author

    Rewards the same they been for years, only thing you guys change is the grinding time.
    Won't be doing sewers.
    DTU maybe do it if I can be bothered.
    As Aslandroth said he plays more than I can we are on same server, if he does not have time, then those of us that are casual players have no chance.
    I used to recommend this game to a lot of people when I started that have had a crack at it.
    Now I would not recommend it to anyone.
    I won't give you money, I won't pay for those stupid event attire's.
    Some people will pay and spend to the death bells sound but you are turning the majority off.
     
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  14. Theusen

    Theusen Padavan

    My feedback on July 2020s event scedule:

    SewerEvent:

    Glad 2 know that U have finally fixed the key problem, but the mainproblem with REALLY BAD essdrops, bad allmost nonexistant pet and runedrops, makes this event SO hard unless U go P2W (NOPE! Not gunna! I allrdy pay for Deluxe and thats enough 4 me) that U can count me out for most aspects of this event!:( (Drillheads are still resonably prized so I might do a few microevents)

    DTU:

    My RFs depleted months ago, and LF just does not cut it! Not by a longshot!:(:(:(
    -All the people I play with say the same thing: "BP are ROTTEN LIARS when they said that there would be less events that needed RFs!!!" ---and I agree 100%!:eek:
    -theres actually MORE events than ever that require RFs now!!!:mad::mad::mad:
    I will try and get a chest or 2 in DTU, but I doubt Ill complete unless U grant us another bonuscode with a few thousands RFs...:(
    -BTW: FYI bonuscodes does NOT solve the problem in the long run! Bonuscodes just pospones the problem a bit!:(

    So all in all I just have 1 question 4 U BPguys: Why did U open this tread in the first place? As I understand it, U have actually hired a guy 2 play this game now, so U KNOW that just paying Prem or Deluxe is not enough! HOW did U ever imagine sum1 would want 2 give positive feedback on these events???:(:eek::mad:

    If U want people that are not superhardcore payers 2 play events here in July, U gatta FIX THIS P2Wcrazyness that U have implemented in most of 2020!:(:(:(

    And finally on a sidenote: I pay for deluxe atm, and when that runs out, Im gunna think HARD about getting it again, cuz its really a JOKE on the people supporting this game! U finally made some stuff autopickup, thats GREAT! It REALLY is! -But its nowhere NEAR enough, and heres why:
    -WHY do Prem/Deluxe STILL hafta click on the ground 2 pick up Soulstones???:eek:
    -WHY do Prem/Deluxe STILL hafta click on the ground 2 pick up Equipmentrefiners?:eek:
    -WHY do Prem/Deluxe STILL hafta click on the ground 2 pick up Gems?:eek:
    -WHY do Prem/Deluxe STILL hafta click on the ground 2 pick up Runes?:eek:
    And finally and this is where Im so lost for words that all I can do is go: "WHYWHYWHY":
    -WHYWHYWHY do U make a drop thats EXCLUSIVE for Prem/Deluxe [CUBES] and then have them click on the ground 2 pick that up also?:eek::eek::eek:
    -I bet U BPs are still laughing at idiots like me who supports U guys financially, and U actually created XTRA clicks on the ground JUST 4 us!:mad::mad::mad:

    EDIT: Oh yeah I allmost 4got: The hot"fix" will now give people who BOUGHT the chest for summer-solstice-event the things they actually payed for with real money on the first char they log on2, even if they bought it on a different char??? Hows INVENTING BRAND NEW BUGS a "FIX"???!!!???:eek::eek::eek:
    -But I guess U dont want the HEAVY P2Wpeople 2 feel so alone, so U screw them owa just like U do the F2P AND the light-payers like me!:p:D:p
    U can say what U want about BP, but at least U are consistant! I dont see how ANY1 using Ur product ATM cant help but feel alienated...:(:(:(
     
    Last edited: Jul 3, 2020
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  15. vkillerx

    vkillerx Forum Pro

    Actually main issue with the sewers was the unasked for change of progress bars and nerf of worm progress to less than half
    Regarding RFs i agree with you as they very much lied about everything
    And what is the most outrageous thing for me right now is the SOI prices in solar coins
    Whose idea was it to price them just by 16 coins higher than armor runes while in clovers they cost 5 times as much ? This is yet another robbery for those who already bought the SOIs
     
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  16. FAALHAAS

    FAALHAAS Regular

    I know...but I doubt BP ever change it back to how it was. Hence my suggestion
     
  17. sargon234

    sargon234 Forum Demigod

    A slew of grindy, boring copypasted events.

    What else to say? Nothing has been changed.
    Listen, either you make this interesting or we're gonna die of boredom.
     
  18. NSDT-returns

    NSDT-returns Someday Author

    First, I think the solstice event preparation was pretty good in term of design, although it was boring:
    EVENT FINISHABLE in 30-45' dedicated farm, not another grindfest.
    However, it lacked the incentive of farming in high difficulties since you progressed slower there + the map had mostly normal monsters so bad rewards overall in terms of pink/gold item + fragments
    => find a way to make high modes useful in events ...

    I have my doubts about celebration event, mostly the way of earning tickets / progress.
    I'll see, maybe it won't be that bad
    At least there was some work around it: it really is something new.

    About sewer event, well it's far too grindy and class unfair (like all other essences event a class is highly favored since it consumes far less than the others + essence cost of this event is really high unlike easter one where essence was overall cheap).
    => Rewards would be ok with either far smaller bars or a rework of the entry system.

    About undefeateables the event is nice and ok-ish already without the progress bars. And it's actually worth to farm in inf3 or even higher (well mode2 is slightly more cost efficient but at least we have a choice there).
    HOWEVER we need realm fragments once again for it (a huge load of those) and the drop rate is still too low without any real way of farming them efficiently except with looter fortune. We had another undefeatable then stellar gold as special events needing realm fragments recently. Every month we need like 200 frags for new moon / 100 for full moon / 300 for desert event.
    At the current rate we need like 1k5-2k fragments monthly to do monthly events + special events (and the farm time needed to farm that is unrealistic for people with a life).
    => We need either permanent looter fortune like drop rate OR less need of realm frags overall (like it was planned)
    => We don't need a "Bonus code solution", we need a real solution to this issue
     
  19. Aslandroth

    Aslandroth Padavan

    It actually amazes me that we are discussing this "problem" or have to discuss it. Because while DSO has 1,001 problems, realm fragments wasn't one of them until BP created a problem.

    So let us enumerate this. We had a respectable drop of realm fragments that allowed us to do the monthly moon events, and those of use who played and farmed above average could also complete the DTU. No problem. An average player, spending an average amount of time farming, or a highly active player with more than one toon couldn't complete the DTU even with the pre-existing drop rate. Enter the lies. BP makes up a fake story about the realm frag balance which serves more than one purpose but the most important one was to show all the honest players that they don't care about cheaters and bots; they won't be banned. But since the cheaters and bots have massive RF count in their inventory, we will equalize misery by making sure actual honest players can't finish events. Not banning the cheaters and bots, no, we will concoct a fake scenario about bringing balance to the newer and lower level players so we 1) don't have to ban cheaters and bots and 2) can charge for our trash fire attire in hopes of surviving another quarter under the misguided leadership of our management team that excels in running their business units into the ground.


    But I digress; this is about BP needing to fix a problem BP created where one did not exist before. This isn't about codes or looters fortune, this is about a 100% turn around. BP admit you were wrong, admit you lied (again) admit you did the wrong thing. Fix it. Turn it around 100% and make the RF drops the way they were before. Stop creating a toxic environment with your theft and lies, and for once, just do the right thing.
     
    Last edited: Jul 4, 2020
  20. Theusen

    Theusen Padavan

    UUuuuH-uh-uh I got 1 also: While BP is doing all of these things I Ur dream-scenario, can U also make BP RESPECT their costumers 4 once?

    Naaah but jokes aside: BP will never do that! That would require that BP grew a conscience, and they need morale to grow that. And lets face it: While BPs stockpile on BS is unlimited, Their stockpile on morale or conscience is non-existant!:);):rolleyes:

    EDIT: Oh and hearing Jesse on his last sololivestream ramble on about bots in PvE not affecting us real players, and we should just ignore them like BP are ATM is PRICELESS!!!
    Cuz when BP looks at numbers that are UNREAL cuz they dont BOT-sweep the game anymore they get even more outta touch with what REALLY going on in this game!

    EDIT-EDIT: Oh and the REASON they dont bot-sweep is cuz BP are making money off those bots, cuz the people botting needs prem/deluxe on those bots! BP just dont wanna ged rid of PvE-bots! -they have NO IDEA how much dmg those bots do to 2 the game!
     
    Last edited: Jul 4, 2020

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