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  1. freewayfrank

    freewayfrank Someday Author

    why do you DKs think its fair you have so much power in pvp .you took fun out of game!!!

    AGKING Forum Apprentice

    DK op in pvp!? Are you kidding? In my server(Tegan), the top 100 of total honor points are almost sw and ranger...
    DK op, ya if we can easy get close to hit sw and ranger then we are op!
    But can we?
  3. MikeyMetro

    MikeyMetro Forum Overlooker

    My Dk's are way OP for any of the other classes if they will just stand still within the 3 1/2 meter radius of my swing :D

    Luck be with ye,
  4. Ffs

    Ffs Forum Apprentice

    I believe SW are op too. sue us! :p
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  5. ~IceAngel~

    ~IceAngel~ Junior Expert

    You have got to be kidding me.. maybe one dragonknights you ofthen fight in particular is strong because dragonknights are the weakest classs they are the easiest to kill by far they dont have too much more armor than rangers and they hit very very low. Maybe you should upgrade your armor because DK need to be reworked for more defence because at this time they are the weakest class by a long shot.

    Yes you guys are pretty bad i feel sorry that they took away your dragon hide healing they should give you it back that way i wont 2 shot you guys :p

    I don't seen i seen one strong dk in level 45 tegan yet..well maybe one
    Last edited: Dec 3, 2013
  6. Kurfo

    Kurfo Junior Expert

    the DKs are OP ... ??? but you (SW and rangers) want someone to kill mortis for you, right, or destructor ... you want to have a tank next to you in PvE, and in the same time you want to kill (from distance) everything that moves in PvP ... that aint gonna happend :D
    and if you say you can beat this two, without a DK - well, ok, just stop complaining that the DK is OP ... you are the OP ones ... and have to think what you want after all - PvE or PvP success ... :)
  7. ~IceAngel~

    ~IceAngel~ Junior Expert

    You don't need dk for destructor or mortis it can actually be killed a lot faster with mages and rangers.
  8. Kurfo

    Kurfo Junior Expert

    yes, they can be killed, by the mages and rangers, who can easy kill a dk in arena ... thats why i think there is no place for complaining that DK is OP
  9. ~IceAngel~

    ~IceAngel~ Junior Expert

    Yes exactly, I'm surprised they have not all quit yet i admire those who hang in there for better days. This thread is almost offensive to the balance of the game it is one step in the wrong direction.

    Hah i wouldn't say op just that they all run too much, the only op thing about them is that 20,000 explosion that they have in pvp that is for sure op but this is the wrong thread so i shall go post one! :D
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  10. Kurfo

    Kurfo Junior Expert

    yes - this is wrong direction :( and if we gonna talk about power ... what about the unfair items that a ranger can use - aegis bow gives 600 armor, old bow from mortis gives walking speed ... not just the great speed from predator ... this is OP, i think
    i have a tactic for both - rangers and mages - and my DK is not that weak, but not the strongest anyway - and i am not complaining, just want better balancing in pvp side of the game, because lots of players (good players) gave up the game already
  11. Ffs

    Ffs Forum Apprentice

    Thought you'd understand that was supposed to be a sarcasm to op poster dear, but sure go ahead if you so desire to criticize anything this is not the right place. :)

    Also, it might be "faster" to kill mortis with all ranger/sw team at the end game level with fully gemmed and geared up players but I'm guessing about half of the population of DSO doesnt live upto that expectation, does it. I'd rather have a nice DK save our butts from tanking that creature. :rolleyes:
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  12. ~IceAngel~

    ~IceAngel~ Junior Expert

    Yes a good tank is always nice to have, a more lay back environment :)
  13. NightWalker

    NightWalker Board Analyst

    haha, trust me, DKs are good to have at bosses like mortis and destructor. Tank all the damage and those bosses let them spam their skills easy :)
  14. TheInfamous

    TheInfamous Board Analyst

    IDK what you're talking about. My DK with mediocre stats destroys players his level. (that have not sunk their credit cards and wallets in their toons, of course)

    I would also love if people took other things in consideration like so:

    -Top 100 in leaderboard is mostly rangers and mages? have you considered the fact that there are more mages and rangers playing this game than DKs? It is only logical that the top 100 be populated in a similar fashion as the game itself.

    -DKs underpowered? You are a mage.. you fight DKs all the time. How do they fare against your mage?
    You've played DK for how long? Do you expect to start playing a class and immediately be a god at it? Skills and strategy develop with time. Probably the reason we don't let 12 year olds lead armies.

    I'm not at all trying to be offensive here but you are using "OP" or "Weak/underpowered" as an excuse for an attempt to weaken or strengthen a class. I doubt you, yourself, even believe what you're posting. By 'you' I mean all that claim something is OP. Provide proof. Get same level characters to fight each other without gear on and with talents deselected. Record on video and then make them swap characters and fight again and compare results. (many flaws in this experiment as many factors are not constant... like knowledge of the game, internet connection, computer capabilities and etc.. and well, we can't get the same person to fight himself, can we? ... On a side note cloning could be fun... too bad it's illegal)

    You'll see that right when they switch to a different class matches will last forever and they will play like newbs. Like I said, skill develops with time.
    Last edited: Dec 4, 2013
  15. Hartvig

    Hartvig Forum Inhabitant

    In my and my friends oppinnion, DK is NO doubt OP.
    When a DK hits 11k+ hp and 700 basedmg, what the hell are you going to do?

    Yup! That would work!
    What makes DK OP, is the insane strong equipment they can get!
    The skills of the classes is balanced in my oppinnion, but with the right gear, DK can get to the point where they DON´T die.
    I have a friend who is a very good example.
    He was able to defeat An0 BEFORE he got his strongest gear, that he have now.
    It was before he got khalys sword. Since he got it...
    He have reached the 11k hp, basedmg 700 and strong armor and very good block.
    And he have NOT the strongest gems possible. He could get even stronger with more money.

    Such players as him(Mate80, Daywalker2, Deadpoet...), how do you kill them 1vs1?
    DK is OP becuz of their gear. So give mage and ranger some better gear and make it balanced again.

    But thats my(and my friends) oppinnion, can´t say it is the 100% right one, but who can say that? :cool:
  16. AGKING

    AGKING Forum Apprentice

    A powerful and skillful ranger or sw will not let the DK get close. They just only use some fireball or precision shot and DK died lol
  17. Ffs

    Ffs Forum Apprentice

    Makes life easy ;)

    Just wanted to remind you guys this argument is going nowhere since the stats wise gap between a p2p and f2p is too wide, so if you're comparing two classes keep in mind the money invested in them that makes them OP, and not the skills or talent.
    You can have a fireball hitting you 3k with burns or you can have precision shot dealing same damage, its just the money really.
    I can count the top p2p rangers or mages from my server if i want to show how op those classes are but that sort of whining is pointless unless I own all the classes and observe them equally without being biased. :rolleyes:
    Just saying.
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  18. NightWalker

    NightWalker Board Analyst

    Well tried all classes with and without money. To be honest, this game actually does a good job balancing the classes quite evenly. So what if DK has high stats? Learn to remain untouchable and shoot from afar. Use the map well, blockades and all that. It all really comes down to the way you use the character and skills. Of course charging head on DKs won't lose.
  19. Hartvig

    Hartvig Forum Inhabitant

    Frogot to mention:

    In my oppiniion it is THE LIMIT that is unbalanced.
    When mage and ranger reaches the limit of strength, the DK goes a little further. They get i little better in gear. That little difference is enough to make them "OP".
    But untill "the struggle against the limits" i think it is perfectly balanced;)
    It is when players reach for the limit the unbalance arrives.
    But hey! thats the idea of a tank. Taking hits!
    But at the end the tank gets so strong, that he takes every hit without dying...
    You can always kill a mage or ranger. But unless you catch a DK in hole and head him, he wont die before you are getting tired of hitting him.

    They can`t run forever... ;)
  20. NightWalker

    NightWalker Board Analyst

    Then you never saw me.;)
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