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  1. carlos2280

    carlos2280 Forum Apprentice

    well there are sw with more then 1000 bass damige not to mention there critics and long range and imune to stuns + the bonus of blue essence in pvp...is that op?
    i see to much sw tanking beter then dk..
    and i see the dk beeing stun all the time with verry dificulty landing a hit and when they hit it is a basic atack cause smash is verry slow..
    worriors in 1v1 fights agains 2 when its a hunter and 2x damige, long range,...
    worrior is only good for pve and as all can see ...evan in pve the sw and hunter are geting beter then the dk...
     
  2. Muscle

    Muscle Forum Pro

    Money is the OP class my friend, MONEY ;) I've seen rangers with mindblowning stats. 10k hp 3k armor and 700-900 dmg, high atk speed, high crit, very high res, and extra concentration.
     
  3. Hartvig

    Hartvig Forum Inhabitant

    I support that oppinnion! :D
    About OP rangers, a friend of mine, is using longbow and she is one of the strongest players i have played with. She can get her min-dmg above 1000 and have above 7k hp. By shifting gear she can also get 10k hp.
    But hey! this thing is about money!
    Lets discuss the fact of people getting so strong!
    Mods, pass this on to the devs: nerf p2p! :p
    Never gonna happen...
     
  4. extinckDK

    extinckDK Forum Apprentice

    Heavy p2p of each class together in 1v1.

    Results will be
    1) Ranger (comparable amount of hp n armour to dk + high damage like mages + too fast attack and mobility speed)
    2) Mage (superior high damage but low hp and armour)
    3) DK (Low damage, slow n not ranged)
     
  5. Teleportist

    Teleportist Advanced

    There are a lot of OP DKs out there.

    My SW has real difficulty dealing with them if;

    They have increased their movement speed sufficiently - I can't stay far enough away from them.

    They have concentrated on increasing their HP, rather than armour - My singularity has almost no effect on them.

    Their resistance to cold is so high they are immune - I can't slow them down with ice missile.

    If a player has built their DK with all the above in mind and has decent damage (which most do anyway) I'm usually toast.
     
  6. Geobli

    Geobli Advanced

    Well, I mention this in many threads like this but I'll mention it once more. A character that can win 1v1 or 3v3 without elixirs & without damaging the opponent, is a Dragonknight, running around and healing, with 40 level PvP and 45 level talent. There a video that shows how much OP can a DK be, also destroys the 1v1 and 3v3, in my opinion. You can reach that much easier with DK, then any other class.



    Also I don't like the new Ring of Life for the same reason, having Sargon's armor set
    and Gorga's Shield with a small amount of HP regeneration was already enough. Regeneration is OP and DK has a lot of it.
     
  7. Master0fpuppets

    Master0fpuppets Forum Baron

    wow! 320k GoP for a 50lvl Dark Heart? :eek: is this true or false os some bug?
    pls answer guys
     
  8. daywaker2

    daywaker2 Forum Demigod

    Seems that he get a special prize:)
     
  9. Master0fpuppets

    Master0fpuppets Forum Baron

    I dont understand what you mean by "special prize"?
     
  10. daywaker2

    daywaker2 Forum Demigod

    Maybe he have some connections....and get a cheaper prize i dont know.
     
  11. bravo1423

    bravo1423 Forum Apprentice

    DKs are overpowered (PERIOD!) Let's just all deal with it;)
     
  12. extinckDK

    extinckDK Forum Apprentice

    What i can see in the video is showcasing the weaknesses of DK. Even this famous heavy P2P DK can't create a quick immediate death to his opponent even though he have spent so much on this DK. Below is a quote from him from his channel
    "Arr I pay for it. I mostly buy gems, cuz in Thailand, Andermant is so cheap and half of the population usually buy it. ps 200$ us = 600000 andermant. (and they have lots of promotion though.)"


    As all knows the weaknesses of DKs is slow.. usually a duel between Dks will be lengthy as their attacks, movement, execution of skills are truly slow....

    Unlike Rangers/Mages where duel are short and may lasted only seconds due to their extremely high damages and easy execution of deadly skills.
    ______________________________________________________________________

    What does it take a Ranger to create a deadly critical shot?
    A simple click + aiming. (a deadly precision shot has no seconds delay unlike mage's lightning) a no brainer easy execution critical shot.
    ______________________________________________________________________

    How about a Mage?
    A single click + aiming as well (lightning/Meteor comes with some seconds delayed hence precision shots from ranger is still the best and at a big advantage)

    if you want to break enemy's armour (add singularity, which the area coverage is soooo big) Freeze skills covers a large area too. Almost impossible to miss enemies btw.

    If you prefer to roast your enemy, no problem, fireballs can continue burn enemies for a few good seconds till they are fully cooked.
    ______________________________________________________________________

    Then how about a so called OP DK?

    First you have to spend a lot to improve their hp/armour to extremely high values,
    (Not applicable to f2p players, so most are weak unless they have played long enough. Also. do take note that a heavy p2p Ranger can easily achieved high HP/Armour like a DK.)

    So DK can somehow survive the insane hits from a ranged attackers wherelse DKs need hits too but not too many hits please, cause too much of it will cause them death easily.. once with reasonable amount of hits to build up their Rage, THEN Dks can have a chance to showcase their "deadly" skills and it is not easy to execute them too.

    Step 1) First you need good running speed like Usain Bolt's to catch up with enemy.

    Step 2) DKs depended on a pathetic click of head butt to enemy. The chance of making it work is so slim and mostly will head butt the air and missed.. but even if the DK is lucky or skilful enough to execute it on enemy.. Wait... still have Step 3

    Step 3) you will have to use smash to hit your enemy immediately. As all knows, a smashing hit by a dk is so slow. Any PVP players with a lvl 35 escape skill will easily escape a DK "deadly hit" skill. Remember a DK usually do not have high damage values like Rangers/Mages? Yes, so need a few slow smashes on a nearby enemy, not just 1 or 2 ranged precision shots like a ranger.

    So what it takes for a DKs to execute a truly deadly hit?
    As easy as 123...
     
  13. Master0fpuppets

    Master0fpuppets Forum Baron

    realy? hmm ... No!

    Rangers have wolf pack that heal's them by 60%, high range, high damage.
    Mages have lightning, guardian, fireball, meteor and very high damage with high range.
    DK's got, melee range, low damage, dragon hide, stun charge, smash ... not much usefull skills.

    why dont u try playing with dk?
     
  14. Talicni

    Talicni Forum Connoisseur

    Any1 who has epic gear is OP deal with it, the one who pays for it is OP.
     
  15. sdknightno1

    sdknightno1 Advanced

    lol
     
  16. Master0fpuppets

    Master0fpuppets Forum Baron

    why "lol"? what's funny?

    running and shoting is easy, childs play.
     
  17. sdknightno1

    sdknightno1 Advanced

    I don't want to get into another heated debate. So I'm just going to leave it at lol.
     
  18. Geobli

    Geobli Advanced

    Even after that much writing you did there, I guess you don't get the point from my post, a DK is not OP in a battle, but the amount of HP regeneration a DK has, is the OP thing in a PvP that is time limited and after time goes at 0:00 adds a Dmg Over time debuff on the players. Running and healing is easy and need no cash for Anderment. Almost my ranger can survive that Over time Dmg with 2x Ring of Lifes and good block. My DK is still 43 lvl, waiting 45 to start gearing him and I can imaging what he can do with his 40% block rate boost and 45 lvl talent heal, he will have no problem to tank that and also heal himself. I'm f2p...

    If 1v1 and 3v3 had no time restrictions, I would like it much more, I don't care if they last forever, at least will be a equal fight. No "bonuses" for any class. You wanna win the battle? Kill the opponent and not wait time do your job, but why not?! when the game allows me to do that. You don't have rules in a battle that is kill or be killed.

    P.S. I just linked that video cause I saw it once before and not because there are some heavy P2P in there, so didn't had to search more, if I was recording while I'm PvPing I would show you a bunch of DK winning "battles" just running and healing, even without 40 lvl PvP rank and "OP" gear.
     
    Last edited: Dec 18, 2013
  19. Master0fpuppets

    Master0fpuppets Forum Baron

    Now it's realy lol. It's not hate, just how it is, I wave a ranger to for PvP and ges what I just run and shot, easy.
     
  20. extinckDK

    extinckDK Forum Apprentice


    Yes, many writings but all are facts and the truth.

    Yes, you agreed DK is not OP and still many people like you want to take the last remaining pathetic skill away from us. DK better go extinct in DSO.


    Running and shooting with precision shots are also easy too. (too easy in fact)


    Are you admitting Ranger are OP at the same time regenerating hp comparable to DKs? Remember Ranger do have comparable armour and HP to DK and they are ranged attackers.


    Okay you hated your DK and love Ranger more, else you wont complain.


    I'm pretty sure NOT ALL DKs have the luxury to run away n heal till they are safe and sound. Do not banish all DKs like that. Also, as a Ranger which having an advantage of easy execution(more than a bonus) of precision shots not doing anything and letting the DK heal in peace?

    At least there is one honest Ranger who spoke the truth.
     
    Last edited: Dec 19, 2013
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