Producer Dialogue |#Botbanning

desoler j uses a translator because I suck in English, I connect with the computer that person because I wanted to play

 

no need to distort his own way or cling to a small part of the message.
If banned 6k player,why on forums unsubscribed units players?they can be counted on the fingers. Who was playing all time with a bot here't even write,because they make no sense, they themselves know that not one or two times used it and got a bigger benefit than those who tried it once or who is not kept at all this program. There are people who got banned for "Auto-loot", don't know 100% that this is but the people who used it,said that it is raised immediately knocked drop, the same function is performed premium.
Take and read other forums,how many guys write what him banned?all forums will be ~100 people max 150 at least of them 60-70% don't lie.
Me have friend and guild guys who realy game with bot,when i login Dso,they all time online,gamealone and nothing not write chat and don't answer and none of them came to the forum and didn't write why they banned or what they banned not fair.
all who unsubscribed to the forums worth checking out also to compare their infringement with all of the other banned. I am sure 100% what is among them are innocent or caught in a stupid situation or to use one or two times a bot for all the time that they played.
There are people who played from 1.5 years and more and received ban (for the above reasons). I have big doubts if they will give a second chance and they will undertake for old. They know what will get banned forever and developers have all the data about these players and in case of their violation them in a short time will catch on ban. Who is going to risk for sake noob drop which will bring the bot? only stuped guy who still don't banned. Moreover, who is now with the bot to play?after 123 patch logged in to the Auto-bot and they will be caught very quickly. Now with bot start game only who don't know about banned and this patch or new player or kids.
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for all
still i want say...No need to pounce on anyone who wrote in this thread that are banned,throw in their tomatoes,throw mud and Troll.
Stand in their shoes,if you played it from a friend on the computer,and he used the bot,if you used once a bot for all time,if you used autoloot or not than not enjoyed and got banned what would you do?started the game again, leaving yourself accusations? don't make me laugh)

p.s Repeat for talented, I do not call unbans all 6k players, no-no then get the work done long months down the drain.I call for a revised accounts of players who wrote on the forum,their number is very small check they have broken a rule so often as the others?to review the punishment for those who have used a bot in the last week.Pick up drop, which they have received for the account of the bot and unbans them or reduce ban of up to two weeks.Be fined in the amount that a player has violated (depends on how much he farmer with a bot.

p.s.s who still believes there is no need to give players a chance recently violated the rules or in small quantity I have a question you without sin?you not when did not violate the rules of the game or in real life?imagine what any of your small jamb you condemn in the MOST strict punishment.I think people should be punished BUT depending on how much he has violated any rule of the game.




Thanks if you have read this far amd sorry for the mistakes in English not good.
Sincerely yours,
lolo222 =)

 

They can check any of accounts very simply. They must do next, cheack how long some spent times on game, in local wheater times. because some play 10 hours per night, and how many times somebody loged for day. Nobody of this botter, wasn't use bot per day, only per night. It's simple to check. Ban him, (me to) forever. bot is ilegal, and we must pain for that.

 

Dear Rick Talrok ,first of all excuse me for my bad english.I dont want to say anything else than few thoughts about your action and the game.thats all you dont need to answer at all.And of course with all respect.

for start i wanna say that FIRST time i see someone with that "balls" doing that bans.And well you did that.Great job.
But.

1)I think you want more players ,you want your game to be the best right or am i wrong?First of all think a 1 player like me.starts the game 2 - 3 -4 months before now.If player is good.gonna see that cant farm so much.OK i agree cause of botters.
But listen..i am pro player(for me at least) when i start Your game let me tell you my thoughts just to know from now on..and believe me all good players will think like that and just keep it in mind.(except if you dont want good players,good players will make your game better on everything) pvp never ends,pve ends so if you dont want your players to bored you need skillfull players ...thats my opinion..
so, i start the game, i hear all the bugs from past,i saw the drop rates,i saw your prices at store,and forgive me i am not that rich but i am good and wanna play a good pvp.I AM HERE on YOUR game looking for some good pvp..!!!!and look what i saw..
unlimited farm,10k bots ,fault store prices or too expensive for a game in my opinion, and after i saw BOT too easy as all....what you want me to do?wait 3 years on your game unlimited farm to play a good pvp with other good guys who are already marshals???Why other did every bug and still playing?vs me fairly???thats fair?
I heard that the ander drops was BETTER before i came in game...why i am the "stupid" ?+ how i will play when all have bots already??i thought BP was suck...just in thought..but i was wrong..but you see me wrong?and you think i deserve a permant ban its ok...
and i wanna say that its your FAULT for direction on this game.and you wont have good NEW players anymore.and their only direction is botting .except someone who likes farm same map 1000 time again and again to play a game....
its your fault.and ok for me..for first time i said i wont play this game without botting....i couldnt...
so for me sorry for cheating,ofc i am cheater but if i knew that i had to do with a good company i coult pay too and play without bot ,BUT FAIR..

and ok for me....
other guys just used it for 30 minutes...and they played and spend their money on your nice game in my opinion.why your behaviour is soo unhuman to them??
dont say about rules....we are your customers...thats my opinion Mr Talrok and thnx for your time only if you read whole this...

ps.I think it was smart move,and good move for a good game.BUT Mr Rick Talrok you lost many good players ,and nothing better with that.

and 2 3 4 better Human possible solutions and all could be happy.otherwise You did great job but not the Smartest and better move for you and for all...just "rules".I wanna see what youll do with 18- ages who playing this game..there are more than 6000 you banned )

Better solutions but you need to have brain not just development skills.
1)you can BAN all those users for a certain period + something else, and FIX YOUR PROTECTION and tell to your customers.from now on we dont laught.you bot you ban.(trust me they wont bot anymore,you win more,the game will go faster better)
2)you can just make a new server with better protection so they wont and cant bot in future on this,and youll finally start SOMETHING fair and good for all and from start.


anyway Rick Talrok i think 80% of the botters was also the good ones on pvp.and good players ...only good players can advertise the game.not the low ones.the low will learn from good players...
BOT was for good players who played at least one game on past....

Act like clever human.and youll earn more....brainless action in my respectivly opinion!and sorry again for my bad english.

+ a question Mr Rick Talrok, 1) you said no exceptions right? why others got 1 week ban.and other permant?from where that exception came?

Look the forest Mr Rick not the tree !!With much respect a pro player who liked for a little your game but i think its very very stupid to start again and of course i wont when i know you could threw so easy my hard work on this game.and i dont wanna think for others who was playing for years...thats all.good night

2 Years already is on Term and conditions.2 years that company was so bad to do something?now there are still botters on the game how about that?what youll do for that exception?for that fault?
so Mr Rick you say that 3 years this company couldnt get rid of the bots?and now remember to view the terms?
Act like human.never is late.
The honest players??What you did 3 years for that honest good paying players??
you using that honest players to do something bigger
but act like human or youll lose more..and the good game can be for years .and if you start like that.forget it ..You know the simple thing , from mouth to mouth you know
bad bad timing to view the terms and use both kind of players botters / non botters.
be more clever and creative..not like Hitler.all dead without ask.

And last one .
Tell us Mr Rick Talrok (i speak like that cause they told us you talk to us)
how about the botters who still playing?and how about those botters who didnt got ban and now they saw that and they wont bot again and play normal,you gonna find them for fair gaming??...is that fair?and clever again???i cant understand...they pay you for that job??? you should just do your job and not take desicions in my OPINION again.and sorry for my bad english and if i was a bit offended...100 sorry again i think you did great job but noone could imagine that so thats why it was wrong.you lost many ppl who could really play fair but when see company MOVING FASTER...

now for the others youll make me sick and i ll throw up all of you just be more open mind all.and stop crying for everything...all have a logic and company DONT care for you 1 by 1, for numbers only and their own plans..or you are too stupid to think it???and i dont say it for bad.if i was company i could do the same but not like Mr Talrok who just sold his customers+uses other half customers with stories and lies....its just numbers

BOTTERS just continue your life,we all know its better stop the game .but its hard for some..think positive and do something else.and if they ask you for drakensang tell them that their developer and their administrators are nazis and doing everything slowwwww.but its nice copy browser game..but dont worry they will be more and more like this and better ones.and still there are.
Have a nice day and game all but most dont worry be happy haha

 

Bot cheaters have so much benefits over honest players. Just cots alone, they can farm easy and will get better gears easily. Unbanned them is like releasing the Titans to rape the world of Duria again.

 

if you had farmed as much time as you needed to write these ..... you wouldnt need bot.find another game now or start from the begining(level 1).greek forum is not enough for you?you came here too?.understand it.nobody wants you any more.

bigpoint and fair players did lot lot lot of patience with you all.but finally the time for you to be punished came.So accept the punishment and cut the .....

 

Is there any player who certenly never used a bot program and has been banned?

For example what happened to me: I got a bot ban. The olny thing I can remember before that I got error code 18 1-2 times when I was playing the game. I can think about a violation that my logon data was stolen and this leaded to this situation.

I have more accounts and 3 strong characters

-martin2006m (Mage) -Not banned
-martin2006r (Ranger) - Not banned
martin2006 (DK) - Banned (accound with the previous error code 18).

I spent on the last banned account like 4500 Euros...

Anyone who got banned and never used a bot program, please send me an email with detail data:

<information removed> Contact support if you have questions about your account; each case will be evaluated on a case-by-case basis. Asking for personal data from others is not allowed on the forums and is a punishable offense.

I will wait for your application and we will contact an international lawyer

At this moment in my mind I remember the film "Erin Brockovich" (2000)

 

Next patch can they write in a scenery addition? Say a bunch of Gallows all around Kings Hill and other urban areas with all the banned toons hanging from them? It could serve as a warning for future botters and give the rest of us a laugh
Just for your consideration.

 

DSO's cycles of botting
1. PVP-driven: weak/new players enter arena -> got crushed by old/cash/botted players -> ppl frustrated -> urge to improve their char by cash/bot (grinding is never a feasible option in DSO lol) -> re-join the pvp world -> kill other newbies/able to revenge -> those got defeated angry -> cycle restarts lol

2. PVE driven: reach lv 45 + full lv 40 fame -> nothing else to do (grinding? no thx - drops are horrible, BP thought they could fight bot by reducing drop rate before but in fact they encouraged it) -> bot for fun -> some will do PVP daily -> look PVP bot cycle

I, personally, belong to group 2 . I was a dwarf and I didnt need any bot to win people unrivaled in 5v5 (some of them got pissed and insulted me sometimes lol). So, bot to me was merely for pve purpose.

I dont intend to make any excuses here. A ban is a ban, you and me both lost, BigPoint, I lost a game to play; and you lost amazing players who have supported this game from the beginning, but lost their purposes in game. Why do you think Marshals and OP-cashed players started to bot?
I logged another toon the other day, all servers are so empty. People have lost friends, guildmates, and game mates, well i believe noone benefits from this loss.

By the way, bot farming was hard too lol, that ridiculously low drop affected both non-bot and bot players. But ofc, botted players advanced about 3 times faster because they farmed 24/7 and non-botted farm only about 8 hours/day (not consider farming PW, botters cant do this).

P/S:

People like this guy here is childish. No body here is a saint, people did wrong things, driven by their own desire or surrounding factors. You were able to unleash yourself from the temptation, congratz, but it's not necessary the same for all others. It was already fair, botters got banned, they are ashamed enough, why are you still in need of humiliating them further?

 

No exceptions???

That's interesting...So will someone explain, not only me, but the whole community, why one of Hungarian admin got his acc back?...

But remember all....NO EXCEPTIONS

 

hi you ban my player and i thinks so that you help me a lot my frend,thank you .you make me to escape from this game which i spent a lot of hour and money on this.me i finish with big...point and the dragensan.you are very clever man and tou know that with 2 months botting you dont fix strong character.i dont like to cry for this bann.i try dso bot and i loose everything.the mean is that ,ok you ban us but your frend who fix dso bot ?
dont tell me that you dont know in every time dragensang make release,after 30' min dso refresed to can play the game.so bro you must hunt dso bot maker at first and after us.

 

I think you must have had a way to check other than the ip address, because personally I didn t cochonerie install on my computer, I have to play longtemp up my personal, since the beginning I have spend hours on, then be definitely banned because I've been playing on the pc to another without knowing who use a crap I find his injuste.tous those that I have I have it properly earn playing or buy the Alté.

 

cause you are non fairplayer 1 minute botting is bad no tolerance

Thank you Rick you have makeme long time to read crying bot users iam so happy.

1 Question:
why Drakensang online dont get an tool likes punkbuster or VAC is this not better?

 

Many Administrators used a bot? and whether it is a shame you that even loyal to you people were forced to use the bot. To play the game became heavier and heavier, and the bot was a way out of this difficult situation.

 

I don't see why people use bots, first of all, you're not playing yourself, you let a programme play for you, so you're not even having fun by playing the game, as you aren't playing yourself.

Second of all, you're being unfair to other players, friends, enemies, etc.

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Another issue is the classification of the “bot users”.

Why people who used only Auto-Loot tool are treated the same as those who were running on it for a year, so called night walkers. Those, who killed the whole family are sitting in one cell with those who stole candy….. users “Premium II tool”-Auto-loot.



You can judge others and put them into one bag, but do not forget that you all were using and appreciate for e.g. the Morty bug. Let he, who is not guilty, cast the first stone, but the rest should stay in quiet.

Another issue is the Premium. Will Players get the money back, as they have pay for it and cannot use it. They paid for something which was not given…How we can call it?...

 

Theft lol

 

Bcs they are cheaters? xD

 

Of course, but I just don't understand it anyway

 

I am a bot user as The Bp says. I am a bot user as nowadays players say.

If the Bp says that I am a bot user where is the permission. They do not give out any information on it. If they have permission why I can not see it?

I used only the autoloot tool and everyone who knows me they knows that I was not botting. I was worked for all of my equipment, for all of my gemstones and I was paying for my premium and I was paying for my stones.

The system containes all the information what is essential with they can check when I paid and when I buyed any stone or something.

I was farming thousands of hours for all of my gear. more than 20.000.000. gliffs I farmed by My own hands and You say that I am guilty. I am guilty on the same level as who used the payer bot for farming for even 30minute a day? And I am guilty for using bot?

Yes I am guilty. (for useing autoloot)

Yes I am guilty and that player should drop on me the first stone who never used any bug in the game.

So why is not there any difference between bot using and befor using autoloot?

What property damage was I caused for the BP what injury I caused the other players?


Just tell Me honestly.

I am waiting all the answers from players who is totaly clear and innocent.


One of my ex guild memeber was happy of the ban and wrote in this tread that He is happy and after He realized that for example I did not used the bot but I used the loot tool and become sad a bit of the punishment and I am the same guilty as a bot user who used it for years or 30 minutes.

Yes You can say that You are guilty and shut Your mouth up. But Just look at the mirror and try to do not split on it as You used all the bugs in the game. (just think abput orlog in q4, or the Mortis bug or anything)

and 1 more thing If I were able to play on my account in the future of course I would not take the opportunity to use the autoloot too but if I were the Bp I would make an extra prem which would give the same looting possibility so as that is much better then the simple premium. I would pay the extra price for it. But I am not the one who can or able to suggest anything as I am a cheater