PvP Poll

I’m referring to pre-R214 PvP, as you probably guessed.
Just curious if anyone thinks there’s any hope left for PvP...

 

it'll never be as it was before

 

I won't select one of those checkbox until "Kind of" ain't an option.

Hint

Currently - answer is in the middle 100%!

 

i doubt they're ever going to take that proposal into consideration

Perhaps the reason they want to destroy pvp is that someone destroyed them in a pvp match and they got very angry for that

 

I hope not. The way it was before was still way bad. Ofc, Now it is a total joke that I generally have no interest in.

The devs still have milestones left on their pvp roadkill... err I mean roadmap, but everything that has been implemented from 214 until now has only made things worse.

Not likely. Remember that these guys always play with max stat/max tier/max gem/max rune gear that they can just give themselves. But come to think of it, if they fought against a real player who actually knew the game they'd probably get pwnd

 

All they needed to do was remove set bonuses from PvP and fix the broken matchmaking system and (almost) everyone would have been happy...

 

i think they got owned even though they got max level gear and they got real mad

it's not only set bonuses, it's unique values and too high base values in pvp, their randomness
PvP proposal on the wiki adressess this

 

Am i the only one who actually enjoyed the old pvp? i didnt complain because if i lost it was because the other player was better than me, or they had more glyphs and a better set than i did. I hate how a lot of the community complained because sets and some enchantments were "unfair" bear in mind they spent years building their char and months to get the perfect stats on their items, so all their work was taken away because people were to lazy to farm and couldn't handle pvp.

 

Yes I forgot to address those, you’re correct.

 

it was unbalanced, not unfair
Do you think it is actually a good idea to be able to reach maximum defences while at the same time being able to reach maximum offence, like it was pre r214?No, it isn't

i for once want a pvp were all combos of builds were actually viable in end game pvp aka 2h, 1h+ offensive off hand and 1h+ defensive off hand, like it was when level 45 was max level, more or less
Back then you weren't forced to use one type of build, you were free to choose
1h + book 2h and 1h + shield were all viable both in pve and pvp, infact the game was much less boring than today
Granted, i was no way near the top back then, i started playing in that era of the game, so i had much to do and a big margin of improvement

Both post and pre r214 situation are a trash heap

you want pre r214 back because it personally benefitted you, not because it was balanced, you're not an honest actor nor are you acting unbiased
Also you abused twinking, which makes you even more dishonest

And that proposal, as i said before, it's simple, much less complicated than whatever they have in mind for pvp now
Why are they destroying pvp, i don't know
I can't find a rational reason for what the management is doing( i believe the devs are poor underlings who have to take orders from a clueless management)

 

I agree about the developers being clueless about what they’re doing.

I actually had no problem with a person being able to reach max offence and defence in PvP. If someone else could do it, so could I. That just gave me something to aspire to. My problem was with set bonuses, buffs, having random base stats and using tiered items in PvP. But there was nothing wrong or game-breaking with having golden enchantments on items. Or with gems and runes.

 

The problem with that is that it trivializes every other build except 1h+ shield
Why would you use 1h+ offensive offhand if you can get maximum crit and crit dmg even with 1h+ shield? Why would you use 2h also? That's a problem and it makes the arena boring and it forces players to you use one build

If you want to have high defences you must give up offensive power
Likewise, you must give up defences if you want to have high offensive power

But the fact that people were able to reach such opness was due to broken set bonuses( like the one on the cube set) and base values
Infact enchants don't really give any issue
It was the base values that made this possible and this became a problem post R185

 

Yeah true, the builds in PvP are not separated enough, if you know what I mean. I think having random base values also really screwed this up...

 

they started scr*wing up when they put the old new wisdom tree back when level 50 was max level

they made the arena increasingly more stressfull but then they removed the reason to do it with the new honor tree

 

Not at all. The players were farming, but the match making was placing in arena old players with 6 years of farming against new players with 1 year of farming. That was the main problem, the broken match making, the fact that the devs were not able to match players equal in strength. As it was said at some point, the match making was based also on the K/D percentage, so a grand marshal with good K/D ratio was placed in arena against a knight of the order, also with good K/D, while the difference between their gems and runes was huge.

I hear voices saying to activate the gems and runes in pvp. If the gems are back, we will just go back to where we started from. Players full polished against players full royal in arena. Is this what the players want ?

 

that assumes that the elo system will be as broken as it was before
how about we fix the match making system?

 

All you do is assume, assume and assume, PvP never benefitted me, Level 15, 45, 50 Or 55 :'), that's not why i liked it EDIT , i liked it because PvP before R214 was way better as people who spent time farming and getting their character better had more of a chance at winning in pvp, that's how RPG games should be, Get your char stats really high and go and pvp with them if you please. Yes i abused twinking , Does it bother me that you always have to remind me? No because twinking was fun and viable for everyone :') You sound like a guy who has been bashed around in pvp so much.


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I thought pvp was fine , i could farm for 6 months and dominate 80% of my matches, and i spent 2-3 hours a day only on the game. Top level pvp will never be balanced, who cares.. Go do some hard farming and increase your power, if you cant be bothered then do not complain.

 

you need to be reminded for being a twink abuser, that's a mark of shame, not only because it's disgusting to bully low level noobs who don't know anything about the game, but because of the damage you caused
of course it was fun, knowing that you had no chance of losing

just because pre R214 pvp was better than now, doesn't mean that it was good
The real good pvp for today's situation is what Trakilaki proposed on the wiki

 

It’s not fun for the low level players who end up quitting the game because of people like you.

 

This is how they fixed it - gear-less pvp. This was their solution after years of complains.

Where were you in the last 5 years ? Definitely not on this forum.

80% of the players care, the ones that were not able to play pvp because were matched in arena against top level. It seems you never played 3v3 where one player was easily killing everyone in one hit, then laughing at them. Or maybe that was you... too bad can't do it anymore. You make me cry...