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  1. Sevilla

    Sevilla Someday Author

    So, massive gems combine will come this time?
  2. cdeepal

    cdeepal Forum Baron

    When is the new Cores coming? Oh man, this wait is killing me. That is my most anticipated update and they showed it in the preview but after so many releases, there is no news about new cores in the horizon.
    Last edited: Jul 25, 2018
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  3. This thread is about R212, not another class war about who is OP and how your favorite class is constantly mistreated by the developers. Keep it on topic.

    Talking about changes to the range: On topic
    Talking about how Rangers get this and SWs get that: Off topic
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  4. Akageshi

    Akageshi Forum Duke

    Ranger is a melee / ranged hybrid.
    Most rangers spam Explosive Arrows because they use the q7 set, so they are not acting as a hybrid class.
    BP makes rangers' reach shorter to mainly try to deal with the blind Explosive Arrow spamfest and push rangers back to hybrid.
    --> Scrap the broken q7 and rangers will become hybrids again.
    ...and also fix the glitchy Blade Dance.
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  5. trakilaki

    trakilaki Living Forum Legend

    Why do you need gem crafting when we will not be able to use our gems and runes anyway? Totally useless feature.
    No, no, no!
    This thread is about R-212.
    Well that was my initial idea. I was not trying to be serious with that post :D

    Now about the Anniversary Event ...
    This event seems to be a complete failure and disappointment.
    - Low drop rates
    - useless progress rewards
    - restrictions
    - insanely tedious challenges for no rewards. (creatress' tear as reward ... the items we are throwing out or not even picking up when drop)
    - failure to explain where the challenge is taking place
    What the traces look like? There is no difference in any urban area ... you have to search dungeons in all regions so you can find one pack of challenge monsters in some godforsaken corner of the map.
    - Forcing players to play the biggest map in the game (Stalgard) just to find 5-6 monsters in some random corner of the map for 30 progress and 3-4 egg openers.
    - etc ... etc
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  6. Purgerzg

    Purgerzg Active Author

    Now about Steam mechanicus range in R-211. Quick shot and Heavy shot have greatly reduced range (with 1h gun range is simply pathetic).Range with Orsha's Lost Firestorm is greater then 2h weapon (it should be equal or I miss something).
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  7. rcch

    rcch Advanced

    Mr. Traki is spot on on that review of coming anniversary event. I seriously hope devs will read and make changes. Knowing BP:rolleyes:
  8. sargon234

    sargon234 Commander of the Forum

    so they totally can be ignored, good to know

    Are sure you can distinguish between a feature and a bug?You know the developers, you can never be sure

    Well, gem crafting is a highly requested feature and a big quality of life improvement
    And the gem and ore collecting will
    It'll change, for the worse
  9. Arr

    Arr Forum Expert

    runes and gems should give you some advantage on pvp but not too much to make you overpowered, they should adjust gems and runes values for the new pvp system (different gems stats for pve and pvp)..

    level 1 players could take runes and gems as incentive for leveling up (to get level 55 gems and event runes)

    so if they know what they are doing they should not exclude gems and runes from pvp, but.. they already did it with regen runes so that's what probably will happen,, anyway I actually expect nothing from drakensang developers, I just hope they dont screw it too much
    Last edited: Jul 26, 2018
  10. heror

    heror Forum Baron

    Wrong whyat you are saying is that all of your game shouldnt matter in pvp so my effort should be removed because some players cant play ? The problem in pvp is broken passives and sets
    So im farming gold to gamble clovers to buy runes adn you are telling me not too much ? hmmmmm
  11. Galvard

    Galvard Forum Mogul

    What do you mean?
    I get hundreds gems per day. Combine gems take a lot of time.
  12. Arr

    Arr Forum Expert

    you want an easy to win pvp or a fair one?
    your equipment and gems can help you but must not determine if you win or lose
  13. heror

    heror Forum Baron

    Your statement makes no sence.
    If im playing this game for 7years and someone who just became lv 55 defeats me because he luckily got to 1 hit me since we are in a one hit pvp then why am i playing for 7 years ?
    If my time is just put into the waste might aswell give everything for free to everyone thats what you are basically saying. \
    The same is the statement why should a free to play player who plays 1-2 hours a day beat p2w player who plays 5-6 hours easily, makes no sence right? If my build lacks lets say surviveability why shouldnt i be able to compensate it with runes , just your whole statemnts you made make no sence
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  14. Arr

    Arr Forum Expert

    thats a game flaw and it has nothing to do with gems ans runes, its because of pvp with pve stats

    im saying pvp must be fair (for new and old players)

    it makes a lot of sense if he has better skills than you.. pay to win pvps are a disgrace to games

    ---im a 7 years player too and i can beat most of players
  15. heror

    heror Forum Baron

    You cant count is a game flaw rather as a design flaw but flaw or no it hasnt been changed for 2 years so we cant hope for it changing
    Me too but thats because i have played and made good stats and gems and not just a 1 year player who wants it all....
  16. cdeepal

    cdeepal Forum Baron

    PvP will never be fair. Fair is a relative concept. For any given match, Winner think it is fair and the Loser think it is not.

    Better skills? Better skills means better reflexes. Do You think that someone should win because of better reflexes than another? Specially a teenager will have better reflexes than a 60 year old but if they are playing the same game, if the 60 year old has played the game for 7 years while the teenager just joined a week ago, who should win? Do you think the 60 year old is supposed to lose every match? I am sure, he doesn't think so.

    Yes, You are a 7 year old player who beats most of the players. You think when gear and gems is removed from PvP, You will be able to continue to do so? You are utterly deceived.
  17. trakilaki

    trakilaki Living Forum Legend

    Neither it is a game nor a design flaw ... it is called bad design.
    Skill is not a gift since birth. Skill is a learning thing throughout hard work and practice over time.
    Not a single human being is born with skills.
    Programming, problem solving, walking, running, making love, making food, shooting, speaking, etc ... are learning skills.
    He who works harder and practice, gets better and better... he who don't practice and work hard is not progressing or learning new skills.
    Nothing in life is fair.
    Nothing in the nature is fair.
    There are people trashing tons of food every day --- there are people dying from famine every day.
    Is it far?
    There are people living more than 100 years --- there are infants dying.
    Is it fair?
    There are people without skills at high paid job positions --- there are skilled people that can't get a job.
    Is it fair?

    Things not being fair make us work harder and set goals to achieve.
    That is how things in life are. That is how things in games should be as well.

    Sportsmen are working hard and practice every day to get better. Those who are working harder are getting more skills and trophies.
    People who are working harder are progressing and harvest the fruits of their work.
    Imagine fairness:
    - a skilled worker who has worked for a company and dedicated most of his time to achieve skills and push the company to the sky gets a competitor ... a new lazy inexperienced coworker without skills and knowledge. The new employee gets same treatment and wages as the old one from a start ... because that is fair right?
    In short time the old skilled employee will leave and the company will collapse because the new worker is getting too much money for doing nothing. He can't produce more than he earns because he has no skills and he is not a hardworking dedicated employee.
    - all sportsmen should get trophies no matter how much they perform ... because it is fair for all. All you have to do is become a member of a sport club and trophy is guaranteed to you.
    - imagine you are in a long successful relationship. You have a beautiful, intelligent partner that is making your life happier. You are both working hard to make your life better ... you create a family eventually and bunch of kids that are living a happy life because their parents were working hard. And then one day ... another person gets involved. Because of fairness you have to give up your happiness and hard work to that person ... because that person wants same thing as you have. But the new person don't have to work and get all those things he never had before ... but because "it is fair" he is entitled to your achievement and your life.

    I can go on and on for years ...
    The point is ... rookies have no business at the top.
    Everyone should earn his position through long hard work and dedication.
    That is how things are working.
    That is what make us progress and improve. A game with a "fair" system is already a dead game. Most of the players will leave since their hard earned gems and runes will be taken from them. The new players and noobs who think "this fairness is good" will leave shortly after ... because there will be no motive to continue playing. They will be in same position as the previous players who already left ... they will have no possibility of progressing even if they work hard. That is a system for robots not humans. A human needs a motivation.
    No one will buy anything no one will play harder ... the game will collapse immediately and the devs who have done it will be noted in a special book called "a list of people never to employ" which would be used as a manual by the other companies.

    Balancing the game is a lot easier that it appear to be ... it only needs a good will and a bit of knowledge .
    I will explain that in the other thread.

    BTW - R-212
    The new quest is bugged.
    In some maps Sentinels are spawning before you kill all the monsters ... that is leading to unfinished quest.
    Also ... when the goblin spawns instead of sentinel ... when killed, it is not being noted by the quest ... which again leads to a bugged quest impossible to be finished.

    Oh and the drops are reduced. :D
  18. heror

    heror Forum Baron

    The mighty have spoken again :) its sad that they are making trash again by making end game to be literary only 9 maps ( pws maps ) and for those who say uhhhh b ut pws are supposed to be the end game huhuhu ill say it must be really sad to think only insode the box. because the devs decided it will be end game so we haveto listen like slaves and play only 9 freaking maps hell i hate q3 now and it used to be my favourite q now im staying afk just to see if smb will write farm scaling dungeons in chat and guess what im waiting for atleas 1 hour or 2 because of the thing i wrote above

    P.s thanks for the updates traki even if i get to the test server im like a blind goat so thanks for your updates
  19. Arr

    Arr Forum Expert

    thats a pve metaphor, in pvp the skilled worker will crush that noob :)

    yes, we cant change the nature of the universe but we can change this game
  20. MademoiselleCaramel

    MademoiselleCaramel Junior Expert

    Traki, you will have to start drawing and using crayons for some ppl. :rolleyes:
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