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  1. BigPapa

    BigPapa Forum Overlooker

    This is all smoke and mirrors. Since when has a change been announced, feedback collected, and a decision been made to follow the feedback in a 3 day time span? Sounds like a marketing ploy. Tell em were gonna do something they dont like so that when they complain we can look really good reversing it. GG they've turned me into a conspiricist.
     
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  2. @BigPapa indeed. Or... it could be that your friendly neighbourhood moderator team was doing more behind the scenes than just painting their nails....
     
  3. BigPapa

    BigPapa Forum Overlooker

    Haha, now THAT would not be surprising at all and makes the scenario plausible. I want access to the "red" phone too.
     
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    Did I say Dark Side? I meant the moderator team.

    We too were shocked when our cries of outrage were headed and the producers, developers, and all the rest did a 180. And if you have any doubts about their intentions, take a look at the test server where they really did take the gems out of the shop.
     
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  5. Rhysingstar

    Rhysingstar Forum Ambassador

    It's kind of sad when even the mods are shocked when the DSO team listens..... However, thank you for putting in the effort.
     
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  6. trakilaki

    trakilaki Living Forum Legend

    Of course it is a dirty marketing trick ...
    Announced in Friday ... revoked in Monday. And they are not working in weekends.
    I guess their guilty conscience have been kicking their heads during the last weekend.
     
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  7. Darwarren

    Darwarren Count Count

    It wouldn't be the first propaganda machine to come out of Germany. The results are about the same, too.
     
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  8. Nelias

    Nelias Someday Author

    Lets talk about new Dragonache set. Why since this game start BP have all time unfiar policy againts sw? in offcial statemet bp said "Dk will have just 10% more armor than other classes" when i look on this set i see there is about 25% more!! Also their have +50% more hp!!
    Why we shoud pay 14k drakens for get set 50% worst than Dk? are you crazy? Then you shoud sell this set with 50% discount for sw or make fair stats for all classes. When i look back to past there was same situation with starlight and morits mask when sw got 1/3 worst item than others!! Youtube is full of videos like dwarves with polished gems won 1vs1 vs full royal DK with lotery gems. And now when its comfirmed nerf of dwarves you are going to make warriors OP class again like before patch 155? Now all Dk laugh and they are prepared to buy 2x life ring for reach insane hp and crictical rate. So why do you want to make class with 25k hp 80% armor and block + 80% critic? it isn't a bit silly?
     
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  9. ekant1992

    ekant1992 Padavan


    The thing is i would suggest let dk get the armor and hp he need to tank but then give the spellweavers and other classes more damage than those given to dk as it should be after all spell weavers are least tanky for a reason, cause we trade it for DAMAGE!
     
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  10. BLASTUP

    BLASTUP Active Author

    war these days are already much nerfed , and we have to come near to atack mages and rangers . everything that comes better for warrior all other classes start saying to nerf it and it is always nerfed , whats the point if we get more hp . we need more hp and armor to go near and these days all classes have 80% armor easier , so if we get something good why u want to nerf it? when all player who say nerf warrior play thereselves they will know how hard it is to play as warrior and espically in pvp
    Many warriors have already left game , the other playing also play a little . this class is already very low in the game just more than dwarves and than everything gets nerf nerf and nerffed
     
  11. Nelias

    Nelias Someday Author

    Haha you need more hp and armor for what? you admit get 80%(and 80is max in game and you cat make more) is easy and you have allready more hp than other class so why you want still more and more. what will be enough for you 40k hp? i can show you screen with some warriors which have 1400 dmg and over 20k hp(1hand build).
    Next point who is speaking about nerf? i speak about balance. In offcial patchnotes Bp said dk will have 10% more armor. 620+10% is 682!! not more.
    And at the end your arguments are really ridiculously. Because dk tank somethig in pve they shoud have 2x better benefits in pvp too like before patch 155? But you forgot something if you give dragon skin and healing skills to any other class they can tank too and with less hp than warriors have now!! So because you tank something you want be stroger in everything thats not make sence!!
    And you ask me how many dk stop game? I think less amount than SW which stoped game cause they payed sacred gems and they never won vs runners dk before patch 155.
    And in fact most of dk which stoped game,were just player who based Dk char cause they wanted win everything.. And when they see other classes finally ca kill them they stoped ;)
    I play since game start and im one of the oldest players in game so you can be sure i know what im talking about!
    And when i look on this set:
    Ranger: have bebefits in hp
    Dk: in hp and armor
    Mage: nothing
    Dwarf: hp
    if you dont see my point then we dont have talking about..
    and if you speak about hard pvp with warriors.. You think mage do it easy when one stronger ranger can one hit mage with rocket? Since they added ranger class to game mage was possible to kill with 1-2 hits with rangers skills..your logic is when warriors dia after few hits from strong players is wrong..But when dia mage after one hit from ranger is ok right?
     
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  12. Rhysingstar

    Rhysingstar Forum Ambassador

    So by your logic, mages shouldn't have any more dmg or crit than a DK in order to make things "fair".

    Will the "this class is too OP" talk ever end?
     
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  13. ekant1992

    ekant1992 Padavan

    BP should keep it straight,

    War-- Extreme tanks with medium damage -- this means it should be much easier for them to get 80% armor and 80% block
    Dwarf -- less tanky than and have more damage then them-- means it should be a bit harder to hit cap of defense
    rangers - kinda same as dwarfs but a bit lessarmour and more damage
    SW -- fragile with huge damage --- means very hard to get defenses but have huge damage

    BP should set a overall balance interms of max stats for these classes and then think of nerfing other stuff

    and this should be applicable to unique specially.
     
  14. GodChronos

    GodChronos Forum Expert

    Nelias ive seen a lot of mages with TONS of dmg. at low lvl 400-600 and in high lvl ive seen 3k-6k so if you are saying dk should be even more nerfed than I think you should check a bit more about the classes. There is no OP class, only the classes with GOOD players.
     
  15. alonedz

    alonedz Forum Apprentice

    why i see payers say oh god why free players will get cubes and now they will be strong like and we will start to lose -_- i think its a good idea for free players get mistcube and payers get more space and new invo and like my friend says :
    Give f2p cubes so p2p have better competitors, it's enough unfair allready, paying to speed up progress in a game is ok though.
     
  16. BigPapa

    BigPapa Forum Overlooker

    This is another "correction" to past goof ups. It is the process of messing it up and instead of fixing what they messed up, they put a bunch of additional messes out there. The DK's have always had a slight increase in Armor or HP on items, normally the DPS classes get a slight damage increase. This time though they are still trying to fix past errors and in the process the DK's that are actually in good shape become monsters while the normal toon gets a slight boost. No thought or comprehensive plan, just a continuous series of minor corrections that swing the pendulum hard for the folks that dont need the correction.

    No one cared if F2P got cubes. That is not why it was a bad plan. Don't look for things to be mad at because you consider yourself a victim and you wont be a victim.
     
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