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  1. trakilaki

    trakilaki Living Forum Legend

    You are comparing item with skill.
    100% increased damage is OP.

    300% + 100% explosion

    then increased damage by 100%

    on top of it ... combine it with Q7 set (even without the set it is seriously OP though)

    multiply for crit shot ...
    and on top of it add few OP turrets that are dealing massive damage in same time ... you get one OP as hell skill combination.
    It deals over 150K damage in the arena in a single shot (after reduction) while most of the players are having 40-50K HP.
  2. Shiro

    Shiro Padavan

    I am comparing quality of two changes.

    In fact I said it was fine when you had to get near bosses (so risk death) to use it, while now on TS it would be too strong.
  3. Sevilla

    Sevilla Someday Author

    hey, massive gems combine will come this time?
  4. sargon234

    sargon234 Commander of the Forum

    Well, that feature is on the back burner, there are more important things to do, like that useless group rune event
    Check your priorities mate, don't you see how important is this event that nobody will care about?
    Dwarves suffer from special snowflake syndrome it seems

    They were complainig about making turret minions like others and complaining about having to start to build up crit and crit damage
  5. callme0216

    callme0216 Padavan

    Honorable exceptions..
    Turret as a minion back before they tried to make them take agro and got destroyed no matter where u placed them.. after deploying them they got destoryed and u got back no steam. Dont ignore the fact after BP announced that turrets wont take agro anymore, and turrets def/hp scalling to dwarf stats.. we was okay with that.

    You know that well enough dwarfs had nothing against crit, and crit dmg building.
    Only thing i was agains that my whole setup went into the trash and i was forced to use Q7 weapon, dragan ring..
    Last edited: Jul 2, 2018
  6. Purgerzg

    Purgerzg Active Author

    Heavy shot give 306%(3x102%) :D And yes, giving ability to deal 100% more dmg with heavy shot is apsurd.But even more apsurd is that we can stun bosses, and apply debuffs. Bosses (at least on inf and above) should have immunity to all debuffs and stunt.And for pvp oil slick now is almost useless, but with new release it will become almost top skill because you can not avoid (or very hard to avoid) oil slick.
  7. Kaydranzer

    Kaydranzer Someday Author

    Yes, no one can deny that dwarfs get the most love from Bigpoint:rolleyes:

    Complaining about these changes was unnecessary [EDIT]. Indeed, it was the biggest buff a class could ever receive. The turrets are still relatively indestructible if you use your brain while placing them and surprise, Q8 Set does triple the damage output of them.

    Tell me more about dwarfs ever being balanced.

    You mean the stuns that last half the duration and give the boss immunity to other stuns for 10 seconds? This is far from being op
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  8. sargon234

    sargon234 Commander of the Forum

    And now they do not aggro and your turrets scale and yet i was still reading complaints about that, muh turrets too weak, why u bp did do dis and other nonsense, because somehow one class have to be exempt from the pains of infernal difficulty and the need to increase crit dmg beyond 80%, and the possibility to ignore crit and crit damage and still being competitive with the other classes

    So what? When level 50 dropped people were forced to put their previous one hand set-up into the trash as well, but somehow dwarves have to keep their set up eternally, while the others have to see their set ups constantly destroyed and in need to be changed

    Now at every level increase everyone gets smashed, you won't see anymore three classes struggling and the snowflake surviving unscathed
    Bp didn't enter my argument in any way, bp doesn't hate nor love any class

    I was referring to the attitude of dwarves having to be immune from criticism, equating criticism of them as hate and somehow only pther dwarf players being able to criticize dwarves
  9. trakilaki

    trakilaki Living Forum Legend

    Some PW monsters are very hard with R211.
    Example - Undead Grimmag (q1 m2).
    On live server (R210) I can kill him with my ranger on blue essences in short time and he is taking 7-9K HP per hit (wisdom level 90 with no points in defense and maxed 150 points on gold drop)
    On TS with my SW it takes too long to kill him even on red essences ... and he is taking me 20-30K HP per hit (maxed wisdom level 200 and better stats than my live server ranger).

    And here comes the best part ... New Moon.
    Both spider bosses are boosted over the roof. One net shot from spider is taking me down for good (I have 80K HP and high defense) .
    That is not all ... It used to take me half buff to kill the spider in infernal III (on reds and buffs) ... today it took me 10x 2 minute buffs. :eek:
    The spawned little spiders are probably bugged ... you can't escape them ... they are teleporting to your location and they are like tied with a rope to you. If you try to run they are sliding after you like they are part of your costume :D
    Last edited: Jul 5, 2018
  10. sargon234

    sargon234 Commander of the Forum

    the buff to the bosses are intentional?

    They are still wasting time with unwanted stuff, no new crafting bench
  11. MademoiselleCaramel

    MademoiselleCaramel Junior Expert

    Finally some useful info. I wish there were some kind of filter on this forum, where I could see only yours and mods posts.
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  12. heror

    heror Forum Baron

    So we enter lv 55 nonsence all over again ? well rip they gave su 1 month of playable and good game now its time to get trashy again.......thank god i dont pay for this game
  13. Hiro73

    Hiro73 Forum Expert

    Let's say the truth .... compared to before with the patch 209 the game has become incredibly easy and boring. The infernal difficulties 2 or 3 are now done without tank and with eyes closed. I'm one step away from giving up the game because it does not need more effort and I'm sure that many people would be able to do infernal 4 or 5 safely and quickly.
  14. User330K

    User330K Junior Expert

    I assume it proves again the fact that anything BP does done without proper testing and lack of the slightest interest about gameplay and knowledge about what the changes Will cause and end up in the actual gameplay....
  15. trakilaki

    trakilaki Living Forum Legend

    You can become my follower and you will get notifications. :p
    Strong players were always able to solo any map ... that was the case in the past and it will remain that way.
    Only weak players are in need of tank in their group. I have rarely played with DKs even when I was starting the game and I was weak. That is because (even though one can't generalize them all and put them in a same basket) the majority of DKs are jerks. They think they are messiahs in the group ... they think if there is no tank no one can play. Therefore they behave like idiots ... they don't revive players when dead, they are not making themselves more useful than just a plain tanking and pressing only one keyboard key, they are not spending essences. Since mentioning essences ... DKs are the only privileged class that doesn't have to use essences ... no other class can make use of their skills if special or any kind of essence is needed. That is wrong ... tanks should also use essences ... they should not be able to tank, heal or anything else ... if they are not using essences. Period.
    I don't know ... by the look of it ... it is intentional.

    Here comes the other moon event .....
    The regular monsters are stronger than the champions in Varholm.
    In this form ... on live server it would be a massacre. The game and the event will no longer be playable for weaker players if they are not grouped. Even if they are in group they will die so often.

    I have around 80K HP supreme runes and royal gems on my TS SW ... maxed out wisdom tree to level 200.
    Yet the monsters are dealing too much damage.

    There are even modifications and changes to some of the monsters attacks/skills
    We all know this skill ... Q6 m2 knights were using it at first. The description says "-50% all resistance values, Movement disabled" ... the initial blow can be seen in the screenshot (30K HP taken in one blow). Yes the initial impact was dealing damage before and it is dealing damage now ... BUT ... what the description is not saying is that from now on "wrapped andermagic" deals damage per second on top of the broken resistance. That means you get damage per second starting with the impact.
    If you don't negate the buff immediately ... good luck you are dead.
    I have tested it so I can see if i am wrong ... but no ... no other monsters were around so i couldn't take hits from the other monsters. it was damage per second from wrapped andermagic.
  16. HellenicMacedonian

    HellenicMacedonian Active Author

    I think on live server, the last dragon in Q7 map2, when he had andermagic, the damage he did to me was damage per second.
    Last edited: Jul 5, 2018
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  17. heror

    heror Forum Baron

    Thanks again traki for the usefull info now im sure i wont touch Pws for atleast a year and farm only the scaling dungeons :D
  18. sargon234

    sargon234 Commander of the Forum

    So they do not know what they are doing
    Classic BP

    And the drops from the monsters remain the same i suppose
    If they plan to make the monsters much more powerful and difficult, then they have to increase loot quality, more golden lines, more leggendaries, more uniques, more additional drops, more gold, more of everything

    We can't have this bad drop rate and on top of that, difficult monsters

    Not to mention that they are overbuffing monsters for new comers
    The buffing they did in the past a bit too much perhaps, but this is ridicolous, since at least the previous buffing could be resisted by earning wisdom
  19. MademoiselleCaramel

    MademoiselleCaramel Junior Expert

    Akageshi and Integrity like this.
  20. sargon234

    sargon234 Commander of the Forum

    no, it's more like, the inmates are running the asylum
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