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  1. gbit

    gbit Forum Overlooker

    if they not introduce the essence bag, yes...and don't forget the new essences for spring event :D
  2. vkillerx

    vkillerx Forum Pro

    How to take the space they made instantly :D
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  3. gbit

    gbit Forum Overlooker

    as posted by a friend of mine in another thread:

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  4. cogix

    cogix Advanced

    Essence bag is a feature that people are asking from many years.
    I really hope DSO will finally listen players... (hope dies last)
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  5. vkillerx

    vkillerx Forum Pro

    My hope died few months ago as i saw the developement and as well my naivety for them adding usefull features instead of useless...
  6. TruthOfZero

    TruthOfZero Forum Apprentice

    Really ? i cant find a combination to go above 90K crit rate so far
    Once i said that 1H/off-hand might be viable now there, but i got this answer from you....
    Last edited: Apr 2, 2020
  7. miras09

    miras09 Forum Apprentice

    I remember the times when 55lev was entered and 60% of the value was

    I remember even older times when at 45% it was the peak of 40lev and 45lev

    even the maps were cleaned in the worlds on red es not to mention bosses

    where you used 2k to 4k red for 1 beat, the time is up to 10 minutes

    that's why I don't understand panic I won't have 80%

    inf7 this is going to be an extra challenge

    not currently on white es 15sec 20sec boss killed
    on inf4 hehe, of course, a strong group
  8. vkillerx

    vkillerx Forum Pro

    Extra challenge for who ? Because nobody will loose their time there for more then 5 runs to get the items for tier ups as we already do everything on fatal or lower

    Just throw in full crit with everything and viable as viable well halfing dmg will be painful as hell for sake of crit but it might as well be worth it especially with 3 halloween jewels as they also reduce the dmg of mobs therefore increase the survivabilty of the player
  9. couda22

    couda22 Forum Commissioner

    R231_5 - maximum HP has been increased from 100M to 10G.
  10. vkillerx

    vkillerx Forum Pro

    Yay Immortal even more :D
    Just did some real quick math and is that like 64min for a 90k dk or did i just make a mistake ? :p
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  11. heror

    heror Forum Baron

    funny thing is ppl managed to get 80% crit on inf 6 and they have 49% on inf 7 , nah its totally not "forced" it occured organically and inf7 is just challening XD even they dont believe themselves, u deal 50% of ur total dmg and bosses hp is 10xtimes more XD ye "not forced".

    so for 90k player a 30 sec run is now x10hp=3 min x50% total dmg = 6 min at least with 50% crit and we know nobody will get that much crit intsa so first kill 5man will take 10mins(1st run). depending on the boss this is absurd, sigrismarr is absurdly overtuned and with this its gonna be absurd. next patch will be one big failure due to forcing things with "false beliefs" of inf 7 needing to be a challenge instead of making it normal infernal. welp this is what happens when u fetishize over a broken idea and think u are messiah/

    and Dks are even worse now thanks to bosses having absurd dmg essentially making their dmg nonexistent

    next patch is the death sentence and the game will go offline status or soon after that
    Last edited: Apr 3, 2020
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  12. .RakshaRanja.

    .RakshaRanja. Forum Pro

    Please, I beg you - tell me its not an april fool's joke and they actually fixed the hp cap.

  13. couda22

    couda22 Forum Commissioner

    Here you are - it is not an april fool's joke.
    The pictures below show expected HP of some PW bosses.

    HP Grimmag:
    HP Medusa, Arachna, Heredur, Bearach, Herald:
    HP Khalys, Sigrismarr:
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  14. TruthOfZero

    TruthOfZero Forum Apprentice

    How? what magic is this?? I have no idea how and why you combine those terms and conclude that, there... XD ....im lost!!
    I like a challenge .....but it makes no sense for the Boss to have more power depending on how many group members you have in your party, it makes no sense!! You want to do events with others too..... I cant calculate the time needed for this :( ....to beat a Boss... so many factors !!! I guess we will go with the sense of, the feel of it..... to know how many group members you should have in your party
    normal infernal??...Ahh hahahah...you mean, those ifernals, that ...you ...are capable of doing... XD
    The game will not go offline status if less people play it....stopping the flow of incoming money will...and its not going to happen!
    All players are going to be affected...when there is a new ''wave'' in this game.... there are 4 kind of players...
    the newbie that misses it an sees the wave way ahead of him....it doesn't affect him yet...
    the casual gamer that has 50% to ride the wave and adapt slowly to the new changes...
    the core gamer that has spend a lot of time and effort and has already build a top end character...
    and the hardcore gamer that like the core gamer also spends a lot of money...

    now....do you want to be a player that rides the wave :cool: or get pummeled :confused: by it??

    sees billions of HP :eek::eek::eek::eek:
    it still makes me burst out of laughter hysterically :D:D:D:D when i look at this!!!
    Last edited: Apr 3, 2020
  15. vkillerx

    vkillerx Forum Pro

    Actually the stop of money flow is imminent with smaller and smaller playerbase think what you want but if there´s just you "hardcore" gamers this game won´t survive and it´s starting to seem that they´re going to be the only ones left quite soon
  16. sargon234

    sargon234 Commander of the Forum

    Yeah, challenge, more like boredom.

    You tell me where's the challenge in bosses taking an immense time to be killed, while the bosses remain dumb as bricks.
    Didn't r220 teach you anything?It seems it didn't.

    What did it teach to rational players? That increasing boss' killing times is not challenge, it's boredom and it destroys the game's economy since it's based upon fast farming.
    Do you know what creates a challenge? it's a good AI for bosses, not increased numbers of them.

    Luckily for us, the new infernals are utterly pointless, players will be doing them to collect the necessary items to upgrade their equipment and then they'll be back on farming on inf 3 or worse, fatal or inf 1.
    What a waste of resources to create something that won't even matter in the long term, to make people farming a little bit faster on inf 3( it's not even going to be much faster on fatal or inf 1, as most end game players already oneshot mobs and kill bosses in a few shots).

    And good luck trying to be a 1hand players + off hand, you'll need it with your laughable suggestion.
    In reality, 2hand players are going to be even more favoured following this nonsense.

    And the powercreep of players will be horrendous when they are done upgrading all times to t10.
    I can only imagine how high statistics are going to be.

    What will be the inevitable result of this mess? Useful idiots will come here or on discord to cry about muh tOo eAsY gAmE!!!!!!11111!!!!!( failing to realize that it was the powercreep created from their crying the cause of this nonsense), which will lead to yet another buffing of mobs and bosses, increasing boredom, screwing the game's economy even more and making 1h+ offhand builds even more unviable.
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  17. TruthOfZero

    TruthOfZero Forum Apprentice

    create a new AI haha that's too much ..... but no, actually its the engine faults.. XD... just copy paste is more easy..
    doing only 20%, solves 80% of the problems logic, i guess....
    i will not even consider 1H anymore , it has been deleted from my head, yes sir XD it does now!
    its not enough...it means more time consuming...
    XD amen!

    ----- MERGED ------

    yes people stop playing, but who cares.....new players are coming in so the game's playerbase is mostly the same... as for the money... i think is self sustainable.... even with low number of people paying(/playing), the money has to keep flowing in, to cover their salaries and maintain the game...but not much to have major updates...i think they offering us what they are paid for.....nothing
    Yes, the info about their HP was very important!!! but
    ....there is nothing to fix...it is,what it is...default data!

    Lets hope for more items added to the new bag..... Cross fingers !!!
    Last edited by moderator: Apr 3, 2020
  18. Marsicanus

    Marsicanus Forum Commissioner

    My calcs are like yours

    You miss Mortis

    Because you don't know the game mechanisms :)
    and because not all factor DSO use in formula is visible.
    HP in INF7 are not simply x200 than painfull (40'000% / 200%) but something like x666,67.
    Devs know formula and all factor used in their game?
    Last edited: Apr 3, 2020
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  19. vkillerx

    vkillerx Forum Pro

    It taught me the same you just said
    Ye they are but they are simple to do and they´ll bring some free money & about the inf3 i´d not say so if those tabs are at least half true even fatal will be annoying and basically gonna kill us as martyrs soon
    Welp gonna be fun to do 2h runs either way lmao
    Amen for the payers

    Most likely not as they don´t even know what & how they develop

    Actually ye new players come but they leave soon after and very little of them pays especially nowadays when nobody wants to help and progress alone is slower than ever because of removed shops nonexistant unique drops ,still slow as heck and tedious leveling mechanics etc. and about self sustainable ... maybe for now... not in a year if it keeps going this way as well as money flow is directly proportional to amount of players paying as we have no adverts therefore the less people pays the lower is the flow and if the flow is lower than they imagine it should be ... no further developement therefore official stagnation and inevitable colapse of the game maybe not instantly but quite soon after
  20. TruthOfZero

    TruthOfZero Forum Apprentice

    True, i get them why they did it, for PW... but, if they are doing it for events too is beyond me .... at least let us buy them as tier0 when you reach certain point in the progress bar.. or something

    When a company in a building has a number of employees they pay taxes...there is a limit that they don't want to go above, so BP can get a %.... or... if they do further development and recruit more employees they pay more taxes....less money to BP....so they are keeping a low profile because is self sustainable right now... they found their equilibrium...keeping the flow is what matters for sustainability/survivability ..for them right now...at the cost of other things!!
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