Release 120 Feedback

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  1. Callisto

    Callisto Forum Pro

    Release 120 is now live, please read the patch notes HERE, and test out the improvements and changes. Once you've done so, please post your feedback here.

    What you like?
    What you dislike?
    What you would improve/change?

    As always off topic posts will be deleted. Questions on the patch can be asked HERE, and we the mod team will answer as soon we can.
  2. Bebachana

    Bebachana Forum Apprentice

    " Important Changes

    ● White items can no longer be found in the parallel world dungeons," R120

    Wasn't this updated implanted in R117- 118? Let hope this time there won't be any white items!!!
  3. It was implemented. However, there was a bug where you could occasionally get a white item from the mini bosses in the Maps. I am assuming that this is what the release notes refer to.
  4. Ash

    Ash Advanced

    Thanks DSO for providing the patch lists.

    Well that sounds very cool, for the long term.
  5. -Harlequinn-

    -Harlequinn- Forum Apprentice

    "● Premium as a welcome gift: With immediate effect, new players who have reached level 5 will be given the chance to try out the benefits of a Premium membership for a period of two weeks."

    If premium membership for a 2 week period as a reward/gift is possible for new players, then i presume that it is possible & DSO would consider doing the same free 2 weeks premium membership as a gift for existing & old players who had existing premium 3 months to 1 year.

    It would be very unfair to give new players free 2 weeks premium as a reward/gift just because they had had signed up to the game & reach level 5.

    It would be fair to reward the same gifts for old & loyal customers considering that we have continued to be part of DSO for a long time & of course being premium.

    This new feature should be in the best interest for DSO to be fair & show everyone that they do understand and value every one who plays DSO.

    It would be pointless not to.
  6. Multi-Sev

    Multi-Sev Forum Overlooker

    That's funny, you want things to be fair! They don't care about what's fair; you've been playing this game long enough to know that. They care about what makes them money. They're giving two weeks of free premium to new players for the same reason drug dealers give the first dose away for free. When those new players miss the conveniences of premium, many of them will renew the premium and pay for it. It's as simple as that.

    Sorry, but I suspect your plea will fall upon deaf ears. Many veteran players already pay for premium. What profit would they make by giving them free premium? The profit of feel-good-ness? Haha, they don't care about that. They don't "value" us, they only care about the bottom line. You should know this by now. It's very obvious in their business decisions.
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  7. -Harlequinn-

    -Harlequinn- Forum Apprentice

    In some part y
    Partly, you are correct. Everybody wants to make money & there is no doubt to that. But tell me, what profit loss would they get for not rewarding free premium to veterans? You should know this by now.

    Since you had given me an analogy comparing bigpoint to a drug dealer, i will give you one. A low life drug dealer would only care what he would make today, a drug kingpin however would think about what he would make today, tomorrow & expansion of products. If his product is bad, would you keep on buying from him or do you find another dealer?

    Bigpoint have been loosing players each day that is also one of the reason why Bigpoint has expanded to Asian countries because they need these new players to spend money & but they do not know how to maintain old players. What profit gain would you get if you are loosing players each day. A profit gain is, you maintain existing clients and gaining more clients.

    I am pretty sure that Bigpoint would consider re-thinking about long term profit instead of short term. Bigpoint need premium players, the more clients you have, the more cash inflow they will get for advertising like in the bus in Taiwan, promotions etc.

    Of course not all request will be granted but it would be great to speak up instead of being negative & tolerate things like what are you doing now.
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  8. Ash

    Ash Advanced

    The extra dialog box to check if we really want to open up a gem socket is annoying to me. Yes, I have mistakenly opened up a socket in the past but it doesn't happen often and doesn't cost that much, so given the choice I'd rather not have that extra step.
  9. soxx101

    soxx101 Forum Connoisseur

    all looks the same are you sure changes have been made? lol
  10. _Baragain_

    _Baragain_ Living Forum Legend

    I don't open slots often enough for this to be an inconvenience. In fact, I am glad. Adding a slot may not be too much to some, but when all your items are legendary or unique, that is a significant amount of ander. As a F2P, if I accidentally add a slot to one of my legendaries, my ander will be wiped out on something I am happy without and I am back to farming for ander to be used with respawns and gems.
  11. -HARRA81-

    -HARRA81- Forum Mogul

    I like the new graphics in Hall of Death entrance + ferry man :D
  12. multitoonz

    multitoonz Forum Great Master

    EVERYONE got a free premium trial a while back when it came into game. DSO did do that so people could choose to go farther with it or not.This is a patch 120 discussion and I don't really see anything about it that is useful, but it isn't non-useful either. It is what it is. At least it's not a Patch of Doom like so many before had been.
  13. Ash

    Ash Advanced

    I agree @Baragain . Except you misread :) The dialog box is about opening up a gem socket with a gem inside, not buying a new slot.
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  14. sper009

    sper009 Padavan

    The little box at the bottom of the gem holder thing was in German. I am assuming it said, "Don't show this message again" or something along those lines.
  15. Multi-Sev

    Multi-Sev Forum Overlooker

    Correct. I checked that box and I no longer see that message.

    I would think that if they give free premium to players who already buy it, the profit loss is pretty plain to see... Or are you excluding the players who already pay for premium from this deal? That would seem to me to be unfair to those players.

    You can be as optimistic as you like, but when they don't give free premium to existing members then I guess we'll have the answer yes?

    BTW, I spoke up when they "scrooged" many players out of the two weeks of free premium related to the Mortis (Ring of Death Fragment) debacle, by assigning an arbitrary cut-off date to the completion of certain requirements, which was not fair IMO. Speaking up then did nothing. They didn't listen then. I don't expect them to listen now. They don't care. That's pretty obvious. [You can find the post(s) where I chastised them for that decision if you search for the feedback for release 119 or 118.]
    Last edited: Feb 26, 2014
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  16. Bebachana

    Bebachana Forum Apprentice

    Well Dev just added one more sentence on it:

    ● White items can no longer be found in the parallel world dungeons. Affects Only Champions and Miniboss monsters!

    So it means we still get white items from mobs in PW?
  17. sper009

    sper009 Padavan

    The mobs were cut from the white item loot list a while back. No monster in Parallel World (regular, miniboss, champion) should drop these items anymore.
  18. _Baragain_

    _Baragain_ Living Forum Legend

    Ah, I haven't had a chance to get in game yet since the update. Thanks.
  19. Ash

    Ash Advanced

    Excellent, that did it. No complaints then. Except to put it in English please lol :D
  20. silverseas

    silverseas Count Count

    I feel like I walked into a bug zone today when I got home, hehe. o.e;

    Universal healing potions are a bit wonky.

    Chat on Tegan (especially when in 3v3) is highly unstable. Messages that get typed appear above our heads, but don't show up in chat even when you're in the right channel. The "local" channel seems particularly broken, whispers don't even display sometimes. Also, when I opened the chat, the icon in the corner was flickering through all the possible different icons it can be.
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