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  1. _Baragain_

    _Baragain_ Living Forum Legend

    I was the one who said that ages ago when they introduced gold lines, and it was only a guess then. Later, when they told us the max stats, it became apparent that the 10% number is just an estimate. For example, %weapon damage could go up to 80%, but gold lines started at 70%, not 72%.

    These days, it simply means that it is in the upper range of what you can get on an item.
    There is no rule that says this. Plus, there are multiple uniques with variable stats that stop on a x.5% mark. I'd wager that it is about 17.5% for the max.

    You can craft any enchanted items of the same type/rarity together and it will randomly select stats, same as always (except that it also pulls the base stats at random too). There is no contamination. For example, I'm trying to combine two blue weapon decorations. One is an older one with a gold +Crit line and the other is a new one with 28.8% crit on this item and a gold base crit line. This means that it is even more expensive than usual because I'm trying to pass on the % line, the + line, and the gold base stats as opposed to just the two enchantments.
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  2. bloodyneo

    bloodyneo Forum Master

    then why its written down the bottom of the item is elegible for crafting and its lvl 50? if its true its not fair for rangers cant keep their favourit long bows ..they forcing them to use the new crapy 2h bows
  3. -{Gabriel}-

    -{Gabriel}- Active Author

    I think that the Leaderboards for this month should be stopped until the devs work out what they did wrong and allowed twinks to be in groups and get leaderboard progress you are sending the wrong message to all atm you have done nothing since it was reported at least a week ago seems strange how any bug or miscalculation of the devs that helps End game players gets rectified quickly but the twink bugs seem to just hang around and if you Mods want examples feel free to ask me I can give you a lot that you guys left for months and years in one case
    As for Mechs the reason these won't be nerfed are they are Bigpoints cash cow so there is 0 point complaining about them
    Twinks are the same Bigpoints cash cow
    Easy soloution for the twink problem in game no group unless they are 5 levels within your range everyone gets experience
    The twink argument will be how do we catch end game users that have been playing for years my argument is this game needs fresh players with a fresh eyes to give fresh ideas
    Dwarfensang by Twinkpoint is stale the latest release proves that
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  4. EvelynJ

    EvelynJ Forum Apprentice

    There are so many comments regarding nerfs to dwarf or buffs to other classes for PvE - Will there ever be any response from bigpoint regarding making this game fair and fun for everyone and not only 1 group of people (dwarves)? I see the same comments posted over and over again on the forum and facebook but I never see a reply to those comments from bigpoint. Also what happened to CM Clayton? He disappeared again.

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  5. Morinphen

    Morinphen Forum Overlooker

    Before, some Rangers complained that they don't have real 2H weapons and it's not fair because the other classes do. Now they got it and most probably won't use it, realizing longbow + offhand is better for them... you draw out the conclusion xD. Haven't seen as many DKs screeching around that they don't have offensive offhands... and I'm inclined to think that even if they did get those, the outcome would be the same as with the Siege Bows.
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  6. Opalsion

    Opalsion Junior Expert

    I don't remember any ranger complaining about not having 2H weapon. The main reason for ranger topics were that it's harder to find team and we needed more balance between classes. Now the Team thought "give everyone 2H weapons... balance achieved" which is wrong. I mean the option is nice, but bear in mind that the rest classes are used to 2H builds since the beginning and rangers have 0 experience to do this. Their priorities are different for a common Longbow/Quiver build and now in order to use the Siege bow must make everything from scratch like a 1 month old player. I agree with Trakilaki, and I wouldn't replace my longbow build with anything.
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  7. ItHurtsWhenIP

    ItHurtsWhenIP Forum Apprentice

    DKs just whining they don't have enough block and defense to tank Inferno... After only a few days from the update...

    Previously the items had stats that could make a nice twohanded build for rangers. Which the other classes made and just about to transfer their items stat into the unique sets. Since there were no much reason for the archers to build up according to that - they mainly built a critdmg build.
    I don't think you can find any siege bow right now in the legendaries which has the critical option in them... Neither the longbows has, nor shorts.... Back then you were able to get staffs, axes, swords, maces with thousands of critical stats in them. Try to do it now. You wont feel yourself successful browsing. Neither will find in rings and else. Only in adornment and offhand. So we dont even talk about the same game system to show off and laugh. Siege bows will fit for smelting, so far its ok. We didn't lose anything this way...
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  8. bonjourvietnam

    bonjourvietnam Someday Author

    They complain about the damage of their longbow. They said that it should be the same like other class' two-handed weapons. Now, Bigpoint gives them siege bow with the same base stats like other class' two-handed weapons. Fair enough. :p
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  9. Opalsion

    Opalsion Junior Expert

    My main char is ranger, I was trying to make a point about ranger's possibilities before the new expansion. I still think the 2h idea is crap. :)

    It's typical BP thing to make fast fix for everything without taking in concern what this might cause.
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  10. tassadar1977

    tassadar1977 Forum Expert

    asar still giving me 233xp for a kill. that's at lvl54 now. what a joke
  11. _Baragain_

    _Baragain_ Living Forum Legend

    Not a lot of rangers... just one in particular *cough*bloodyneo*cough*

    He's always been going on and on about how his class is the poor, neglected, maligned, mistreated, nerfed, hated class. All this in contradiction to evidence that Rangers are among the top PvPers and are unquestionably powerful if built right.

    There might be a way. LVL 49 and lower items can still get the old style enchantments (like crit on a bow). I haven't farmed on my ranger in lower level areas, but if they've made LVL 1-49 siege bows, they may come with a crit line if you are lucky. Then, you'd just need to craft it up in level and rarity until it is usable. I plan on going back and farming for some LVL 48-49 green items looking for gold enchantments for use in crafting. Of particular interest is weapon decorations with Crit, 2H weapons with crit, and rings/belts with crit. I guess Crit is a recurring theme in this new world we live in. This idea reminds me of when we used to farm for hours in low level Grim to make low level legendaries back when 40 and 45 were the max. It will take time, but it has high pay off rewards.
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  12. trakilaki

    trakilaki Living Forum Legend

    They are available only for level 50+ ... just like the new gems :p
  13. _Baragain_

    _Baragain_ Living Forum Legend

    Too bad.
  14. AnyoneUnderTheBlueSky

    AnyoneUnderTheBlueSky Forum Apprentice

    actually u only need 2 items to be full critic chance, u can use this for a moment but is not the best.
  15. _Baragain_

    _Baragain_ Living Forum Legend

    Long story short, the smart rangers will continue to use long bows with quivers and have crit/crit damage builds that will blow people away.
  16. Arx_X

    Arx_X Advanced

    I think people cried after any major update because what was once really overpowered got.. well average over night.
    I've already played with many( the last few days) that managed to turn the new game features into a major win..with luck and wits.
  17. Morinphen

    Morinphen Forum Overlooker

    I meant no disrespect to Rangers. I know and/or have seen plenty of examples of killer characters from that class; two of them are right above here in the posts. It is just funny how things turned out versus what those who wanted a Ranger 2H expected.

    I meant to underline that the Siege Bows now prove to be, pretty much, a fail. And it's not just that... there are other flops for other classes too. Now, with item enchantments changed... as a mage, I don't really need an all-resistance belt, or an all-armor torso, or block strength on rings... that's DK stuff, come on. Stuff I'd use still pops up... but way more rarely than the aforementioned kind of lines. I feel like the roll chances here are somewhat not evenly-sided...
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  18. ItHurtsWhenIP

    ItHurtsWhenIP Forum Apprentice

    Well... It makes some sense... But still I should farm lvl50- areas for the high stat greens, to be able to craft it up... How disgustingly much time it takes? I cant farm parallels on lower difficulties, so the items I get are mainly all creepy... And there comes the time im spending with farming for the unique sets to transfer the stats... According to my 5-6 years of experience they aren't just popping up in my inventory.

    To me it would take years to achieve.

    And I have the habit, that if I cant see that I can make it in human time I quit trying. No reason to even start it cause when I would be at the reaching point we will surely get the next expansion and all the work spins down in the toilet again...

    I have read the article about the 'wonders of the siege bow and the parallel world unique sets combination crafted up with the legendaries stats'. Jus come on! Not everyone using bots to farm, nor everyone disabled, or unemployed. That summary is totally out of the rationality for those who actually plays this game a few hours a day/week. Toons has to reach to a certain strength to be able to farm higher difficulties. Then they can start maxing up all the stats they achieved. Not to mention dwarf is not everyone's favorite class.

    Its all messed up!!
  19. cdeepal

    cdeepal Forum Baron

    I think the game is going in the wrong direction.
    Most existing elite players will move their existing crit items, shields, and other items post-update through crafting into the new items and thus will still be able to continue hunting in the PW maps.
    However, new players will never be able to do that with the new items, as new items do not offer crit, do not offer block rate or strength enough to build a viable character even to enter the painful mode of a PW map.
    This means, I have no desire to continue to play this game as there are no goals for me that can be achieved.
    So, I am considering to quit and look for other games.
    And, I believe BigPoint has put the final nail on the coffin with this update.
    The game will still go on with the old players, but will die out as it wouldn't be able to retain new players.
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  20. Universeea

    Universeea Advanced

    How? Gold atk speed on gloves, torsos and other items are dropping just as much as before and now it's easier than ever to get PW uniques.
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