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  1. .RakshaRanja.

    .RakshaRanja. Forum Pro

    Lemme get this straight - people use MC instead of AP just cause its easier to name the skill itself instead of specific talent.

    What you're doing is a cheap tactic of nitpicking in order to criticize unnecessarily.

    There's no need to explicitly state "players cannot be mind controlled" when it's already explicitly stated that only monsters can be controlled to make them fight for mind control caster BUT being immune to the "control" effect doesnt mean the cast isnt happening.

    You can control the monster and make it fight for you but you also can cast it on players and so called "control" effect (making target of the cast fight for caster) is exclusive for "monsters". There's not a single word about mind control being a monster exclusive cast - the "control" effect on the other hand is.

    Mind control will fail to "control" the enemy player but the cast itself happened.
    Players (and some other monsters) are simply immune to the "control" part of the skill.

    That part is correct - explosion should happen exclusively when target under "control" dies.

    That has nothing to do with icy explosion - it was part of MC itself back then.

    AP and GoF were the talents.

    This has nothing to do with the AP. Majority of mages back then used AP as mobility boost (aka 3 teleports).

    Skills changed and so did players way of using AP.

    The answer is simple - order of performing actions.

    You yourself confirmed that AP description explicitly stated:

    "Directly after using mind control on your enemies, you can use all of your skills without activating their cooldown times for 1 second."

    "Directly AFTER using (...)"

    This is very simple:

    1) Skill's (Mind Control) effect is being applied (as every other ability)
    2) Cooldown is being applied (as for every ability)
    3) Astral Phenomenon buff is being applied (keywords: AFTER using mind control and using means applying cooldown and effect of the skill on cast target)

    All skills cast during Astral Phenomenon ignore point 2) but the Mind Control itself can't due to order of performing actions - you know that but you purposefully ignore that to make your Synchronicity point look proved.

    Now for the Synchronicity:

    1) Skill's (Singularity) effect is being applied (as every other ability)
    2) Cooldown is being applied (as for every ability)
    3) Check if you're in Singularity's AoE range
    4a) If you are: reduce ALL ACTIVE COOLDOWNS
    4b) If you aren't: do nothing

    Step 4b isnt programmed - the action of doing nothing is simply "no code to perform". Programming "IF inside Singularity's AoE range THEN reduce ALL ACTIVE COOLDOWNS" is enough)

    ALL ACTIVE COOLDOWNS means all. If singularity is on cooldown it should reduce cooldown of itself which is why it was a bug.
    Last edited: Mar 19, 2019
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  2. ΣMiwel

    ΣMiwel Forum Ambassador

    I'm sorry, but up to right before R209 rangers had that skill in the wisdom tree. Not that it could help much in the one-hit environment...

    It should work on itself if it was physically possible to use it during the buff, but it's not.
    When you use a skill, first the cooldown is counted and then the skill's effect is executed. You can see it best at the Destruction with the 3p. talent. Animation starts, cooldown is started, after a second or so the beam is unleashed, and then (unless you get the bug which happens on "good" graphic settings) the cooldown is secondarily reduced by the amount dependent on the number of enemies hit.
    Since the effect of the MC (with talent, amongst others) allows you to use skills without activating cooldowns, it means that when you use a skill during that one second, it's cooldown is not started. Since the cooldown of MC is already in effect, you can't use it. An active cooldown (refered to in the singu's description) is the cooldown that is in effect at the moment (not a future one). Just the word "cooldown" without the word "active" would simply mean the cooldown reduction like that from cdr runes.
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  3. LyLyh

    LyLyh Someday Author

    Last two months I played Fullmoon event! I killed the boss over 280 times and I didnt take even one rune !!!! So where is the problem - in my account drop chance or in the game drop chance ??
    Now I see the drop is reduced again. Today it is worse than yesterday! We need so much gold for craft! How do we suppose to make it?
    I rarely have items with the new values! Especially in the weapons! So ... do something .. It's too frustrating!
    And one more thing! Why the new players have a better drop than the older ones ??? I compare my drop wit others and see the new accounts have a better drop than the older ones! It's not fair !!! It's not! My account is almost 6 years old! I play this game so many years, I have paid so much money and what ?! - big nothing and unfair changes ...
  4. sargon234

    sargon234 Commander of the Forum

    the drop chance for the rune is very low, it has always been this way
    But it seems the highest drop change is on either fatal or excruciating

    but the drops have been lowered after the cheaters have exploited EDIT the game
    BP hates honest players

    The bonanza was in r214, when t8 and platinum drops were higher
    Once the exploiters got their full platinums and t8 weapons, bam, the drops were lowered

    Also good job to trakilaki for explaining why the arena is broken
    It seems that they designed the new pvp with EDIT , not with their brain
    They could have just deactivated op set bonuses designed for pve and op unique bonuses and let gems and runes work in pvp
    Gems and runes weren't op
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  5. MaxDisappointed

    MaxDisappointed Forum Master

    I was just wondering... seems I was right in my thought.
    All that money of many people should be used to improve the game and not to make it worse which is what happens more and more.
    Doing absurd changes in 1 specific class while forgetting the rest.
    Not solving unexpected errors efficiently to let players play an event and get the reward for themselves instead of giving the "-sorry, we couldn't do more because we are not good enough-code"
    And a large etc.
    Last edited: Mar 20, 2019
  6. LyLyh

    LyLyh Someday Author

    Maybe, but not at all...We use "discord" to talk each other while we are playing.. So my partner took 5 runes, I took 0 … And it's not only this event, we compare everything and I see that our drop I worst!!!!!... His account is 2 years old, my is older... We are many in discord and many of the older players are EDIT

    --- MERGED ---

    BTW... I think PvP is better now. You have only skills to play and that's wonderful :)))
    All they have to do is to rebalance the skills .. Only this.. 5vs5 or 6vs6 against 2 or 3 DK means I can't get out of stun... My Teleport has 10s cool-down, my frost nova - 20s.. and my 3td p. of the mind control doesn't work.. I don't have speed walking and that's mean I am in a stun all the time....
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  7. sargon234

    sargon234 Commander of the Forum

    that's false, as explained countless times
    Aside from the fact that pvp in a mmorpg game should be based upon both your skills and your equipment

    There's no need to rebalance the skills, it would only screw up pve as well, nor would it balance pvp
    See the earlier example of the mage's skills
    Do they deal too much damage because they're imbalanced?No, it's because the system itself is broken beyond repair
    Now that gems and runes have been taken out you have no way to increase resistances and as such, you won't be able to mitigate the damage from the skills of the mages, which deal 50% of the damage as elemental damage
    The previous system was bad, but this is even worse, which is an astonishing achievement on the part of BP

    If they wanted to make a moba like pvp they would have had to completely redesign the abilities and the arena itself, the equipment, the game, everything because this is an RPG, not a moba
    They didn't and we have this broken mess instead
    There are some events where i drop 0, others where i dropped 3
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  8. MaxDisappointed

    MaxDisappointed Forum Master

    Still freezes, in my case every time the game is updated I must "load" all the maps one by one, in each type of map the screen freezes for several seconds the first time I enter, and today it has not been an exception after the hotfix.

    Event is tomorrow... You are too late, this kind of thing is what I refer when I talk about incompetence, this is not a serious work.
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  9. Aslandroth

    Aslandroth Regular

    I have to agree with Max on this.

    Also I really feel like this was a non issue, like many of the things BP "fixes". Like many players, I didn't have any circus passes as I used them in the months following the last circus event. Not really a big deal as I had other things I needed to do, and thats not the only place for Draken cores. Would I have liked to been able to purchase from Thabo? Sure. That would have been an example of BP doing the right thing. Instead they doubled down on stupid with a last minute fix, that while utterly irrelevant, came too late to be meaningful to the few who cared.

    I picture the cubes in BP dev land are all plastered with motivational sayings like "Follow the Path of Least Resistance and you will Achieve your Dreams of Mediocrity Faster than the Rest" and other blurbs to appeal to the lowest common denominator. So lazy.
  10. ZantezukKken

    ZantezukKken Someday Author

    I rlly can't understand BP... why is it so hard to be clever a little?

    You can't let the players use their realm fragfments as they want/ can/ prefer.... just dumb kids cry that some guys can use it before the others. Problem will be solved easy if they just made an official answer with " circus map is possible after the event" ppl who alrdy get some enters from the last years, they cans tart to use it and all normal logical guys don't care! cool things for them, just wait tomorow without make noise for nothing !

    Now they did this stupid patch and if you've got a life, a job, or something else more interessing than spam circus map whyle 10 days. You're gone ! It wasn't enough to destroy the drakens rate in chest? no no no wait, fix the clever thing we did by mistake...

    There are lot of good farmers who only need drakens, you delete this in dragan, delete this in random orbs of gnob, delete this with the end of regular event, to only keep wolf event where loot is alrdy destroyed.

    Now they're with 40k, 50k, perhaps 100k of realm fragments, and for nothing... oh not for nothing it's true they can buy 12312312 enters to kill bloodmage and get 0 runes....

    Stop to EDIT the real players just cause botters or cheaters get it too fast and let the legit guys have fun in peace!
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    IKILLGIANTS Active Author

    I think you are the one who should be "clever a little" because you fail to understand that the " dumb kids" asked for farming time as well.all players should be allowed an equal farming time!!! Entries in Circus were "fixed" for event only use long time ago so check your facts before you bark
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  12. heror

    heror Forum Baron

    He has some points right, i think u overthink it.
    The entries for the circus werent fixed That long ago maybe 4-5 months

    IKILLGIANTS Active Author

    you are confirming my point!!! since for over 4-5months ago it is known that the entries are "valid" only during the event why suddenly some players are allowed an extra week of farming while others dont??i repeat : farming time should be equal for all players! how am i wrong in asking for fairness?
  14. sargon234

    sargon234 Commander of the Forum

    guess what, all players had equal farming time
    They could have bought the entrances when they had the chance
    They didn't, they have to suck it up

    No, facts don't care about your feelings or your butthurt
  15. ZantezukKken

    ZantezukKken Someday Author

    i m saying that without get entries.. cause i did all mine (3.5k) so fast and before they changed the price of runes! so keep your lessons, if you've got 3k entries to make, or nothing and 50k realm fragments we don't care if it was possible to use when you want/need/can. Just find 5 second free whyle the event is running, buy all the one you want and just do it without cry for bullsh1T. Pvp is dead so why the hell you're mad Vs a guys who didn't finish the old entries? you can be mad when you wasted all your drakens for a stupid rune of 10% life! whereas all slower guys just buy the new cheap prices... cause rules change 24/7 on this game.

    There are ton's of important problem and you're coming complain about useless things.
    There is a baby on sofa spamming touch and channels every sec, and he's called Bigpoint! can't choose a thing, and instead to make the thing working normal reparing bugs, they change all, everything in same time, than turn back the decisions. Enough..

    And about your drakens cores just move your fingers, they turn back all events boss with 100% drakens cores, you won't get a reason to cry.

    IKILLGIANTS Active Author

    since you are not able to see the bigger picture i its pointless to try to explain you the difference between 3 weeks of farming the event and 2 weeks :) the players who had entries should use them during the event NOT earlier!!!nobody is take anything from them,they bought them and they are entitled to use them,but during the event "like everyone else"
  17. trakilaki

    trakilaki Living Forum Legend

    Players were able to farm the Circus whenever the hell they wanted to.
    Not a single portal from any event has been restricted EVER ... all of them were working anytime the players wanted to play there even if the particular event was not active.
    There is no official announcement or part of any patchnotes that says "We have applied restriction to event portals" ... on contrary there are announcements in which the devs are encouraging the players to keep on farming there even when the event is finished.
    There were few more but I can't search ATM.
    So the devs were always saying "Keep farming even the event is finished".

    After the latest changes ... when the players asked "what is the reason for the restriction of the circus portals" ... the devs said:
    so the devs said they restricted the portals because of "humanitarian" reasons ... they were scared and concerned, that players could waste the portals, so much so they couldn't sleep over night. So they decided to restrict the portals ... just because they care for players.
    Now we know that the devs are bunch of liars ... and this team has been always lying for everything.

    I would say ... buy portals like EVERYONE else and use them. You are not "everyone else" ... everyone else is having spare portals. Most of the players HAVE or HAD portals ... unlike you.

    Just for your pain ... screenshot before the start of the event
    I hope you don't get a single pet part :D EDIT


    Ahh look ... I have more unrestricted portals :)
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  18. elitecrew1031

    elitecrew1031 Regular

    I dont get it what is the problem to use DTU portal without event running, i have 10k realm fragments and for what am i going to use it ?
    Karaboosa (as a dwarf) or for Vargulf weapon ? in this way BP is forcing ppl to play as much as they can during the event for god only knows what reason. Make it normal, DTU portals must work after the event finish.
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  19. sargon234

    sargon234 Commander of the Forum

    [quote removed]

    what event farm a week earlier? what you are talking about?Did you know that you can get event progress only during the event?Are you referring to the pet parts?Tough [EDIT], you could have bought them when you had the chance
    Sorry kiddo, if you don't use opportunities when you have them you lose them

    Also what is the problem with people farming drakens in the only secure source of drakens?

    Also good job to the devs destroying their credibility further
    Last edited by moderator: Mar 22, 2019
  20. Purgerzg

    Purgerzg Active Author

    Well,I have unrestricted circus portal :p
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