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  1. MomchoBG

    MomchoBG Forum Greenhorn

    Meanwhile we can throw away all the gems and runes we have collected for years, just because they are simply useless. You are being one shotted by the event bosses, no matter what kind of gems and runes you have...
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  2. vampiro

    vampiro Advanced

    They do nothing about the bug because those who abused the bug are in most cases the payers and more precisely the ghetto formed by those who always play on streams with the CMs and are top subscribers/donors for them. So they are not gonna take actions harming those who pay them, DSO has a dark legacy, you know ;)
    The less they can do is be honest with the 100% of their players and ease the path for the fair players to finish the achievement faster.
    But this is only possible if DSO were honest, they showed for years that they are not.

    I think the correct thing to do would have been to reset the achievement with the implementation of the fix on the quest, so we all start from 0 in fair conditions, too much effort for them to think on this solution.
    Last edited: Oct 2, 2020
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  3. trakilaki

    trakilaki Living Forum Legend

    What bug , what exploit?
    The quest was never bugged ... what rule or gaming law says you must finish a quest before you enter a map again? If you look on the other quests in the game they are the same as well.
    It is simply a bad design just like the next farming quest is a prime example of a bad design and a lack of creativity. Who in a right mind would make a quest where you need to kill a monster that you might never find? On top of it you need to collect at least 59 passes.
    In order to do that the player need to have enough lair entrances ... on top of it there is no "enough entrances" because you might never get a map with protectors. I did try yesterday and never got map with protectors ... not even once.


    I don't follow what is going on ... but did they actually say that?
    If yes ... that is the stupidest thing someone could have said.
    Imagine a player with all level 55 T10 items ... if they actually said ^ that ... when the expansion comes the player would receive converted level 58-59-60 items ... that means the level 55 player COULD NOT proceed playing since all of their gear would be on a higher level than the player's level ... and they would be unable to use all of their equipment. Unable to farm and unable to play.
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  4. trakilaki

    trakilaki Living Forum Legend

    that means another great theft
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  5. sibano

    sibano Padavan

    Why does the game always get worse ? What's the deal with pressing the stone we want on all the things before I complete my stones yet ? some of the people will do 200k damage and I will do 80 90k Justice ? The endgame is coming.. sooner or later
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  6. sargon234

    sargon234 Commander of the Forum

    I don't understand, what they are planning to do?
    Are we going to lose our runes and jewels without compensation?
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  7. Akageshi

    Akageshi Forum Duke

    As far as I know, there will be a new tab in the bag pack next to the crafting ingredients tab where a new type of items could be equipped. It seems there will be up to 7 slots. These items would be called "trinkets", and it will be possible to use runes & jewels with these.

    Idk how that is a theft. But I can imagine it will be another grindfest getting those trinkets, so it might be impossible for players to use their runes and jewels for a long time until they manage to get the trinkets. (Maybe that's what Traki means by Great theft?) In the mean time they can bust out their wallets and buy lots of rubies :3
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  8. ΣMiwel

    ΣMiwel Forum Ambassador

    Nah, they're removing item level restrictions it seems. It looks like the higher the mode, the higher the mob level, and the higher the item level, so item restriction would have to go. Yep, you know what that means.

    Crafting randomness is gone (you can choose the exact lines you want), crafting paid in GoP, every item can be crafted with everything (eg. weapon with HP or pauldrons or shield with damage, or rings with running speed), tiers removed, probably a great bunch of lvls (like lvl100 or lvl150 lvl cap), 10 gem slots per item, gem item restrictions gone (rubies can be put in boots and amethysts in the weapon), probably base values and enchantments reworked yet again, again reworked exp skill tree (perhaps wisdom and group trees too), the new stuff for runes I talk about below, some other things...

    Edit: Mage is getting fiery destruction as a skill in the exp tree... I don't know what they are doing to unique items, but it looks like they might be removing most of the superpowers... or at least some of them. *end of edit*

    This is the official statement list of (most of) confirmed changes (yes they should have posted it to the forums):
    Why complicate it that much? :p It's way simplier. Suppose there are 4 trinkets for runes, like they showed in the stream. And suppose each one has 10 rune slots, like with the gem slots. It's 40 total runes usable at once. You know how many runes can be used now? 5 slot times 12 items (2h) for a total of 60 runes. 65 with 1h and offhand. Yep. It means 20-25 unusable runes from the equipment. It's what Trak means.

    On the other hand, maybe they mean players to get a bunch of trinkets (I'm not sure what those would provide honestly aside of the slots - would they be just regular items with enchantments?) and keep runes in them and switch them out for each other... that could make sense. But we'll see.

    Anyways, we'll getting 2 new item types and 7 total new gear slots (at least in their WIP version it's 4 rune trinkets and 3 jewel trinkets). We'll have to collect, store and craft those new items. And here we shall still have the same amount of inventory space, with no more, while we're having a hard time managing what we have now?

    Whatever a full ruby build is going to provide, I bet it'd be squishy as hell. There's a high chance that won't neccesarily be the thing you'd want. Let's wait until it hits test server, and I bet it will in about 2-3 weeks, since they said that it'll happen "soon" and we're 1,5 a month away from the date it shall hit live servers.
    Last edited: Oct 3, 2020
  9. Genius

    Genius Forum Greenhorn

    I am a long time player and a long time reader of this forum, I am a very patient man and I don't usually get annoyed and I hate telling people how to do their job right but the way things are unfolding I am forced to write this feedback:

    1) In regards to Quest "Shadows of the Past":
    • The costume should be the Quest reward and not Achievement reward. It is your mistake that you overlooked an exploit of a quest that was there in TS for a long time. Now be fair to everyone and make the costume quest reward as it originally was.
    • The grind for the achievement is insane and inhuman. Lets assume I get a protector in every Secret Lair map which means 50(orbs) x 30(runs) = 1500 runs.
    Worst Case scenario - A new player/F2P player gets 1 Secret Lair Pass per day = 1500 days = around 4 years.
    Best case scenario - End game player with Premium and access to traders can get 5 secret lair pass per day = 300 days = around 1 year.

    Now remind yourself that you cant get Protector every run
    , infact they are rare and see how Flipping Stupid all this is.

    Either make Secret Lair pass a currency that drops from bosses so that players can farm it or reduce the requirement for the entrance to "Kingshill in Former Glory" to 10 orbs. Or I guess the best solution will be to drop the Steam Core from PW bosses.

    2) In regards to Dragan Event: This is one of my favorite events and you guys are screwing it hard with every release. I am sure the person who designed the above quest is the same who "improved" this event. You guys need to understand two major things here:
    • The players who are paying are the ones keeping the game alive. We are able to pay because we have jobs, and it might be a shock to you but we have a life also. We cannot spend whole day playing the game, the time that is required to grind the events is insane.
    • The whole point of playing a game is to HAVE FUN. It shouldn't be a chore where I have to add labor at the end of the day. The rewards for the events (in general and especially this one) are not worth the grind and the grind is not worth the time. Either reduce the pearls required for each bar or increase the drop so a player can finish the whole event just by playing few hours every day.
    Feel free to take my feedback with a grain of salt but understand that this game needs more new players. Most of the players rage quit the game (more often nowadays) because the rewards/grind and time spent here is not worth it. Make the game more enjoyable and rewarding for new players, its not rocket science.

    I hope you guys keep up the good work and not force me again to write anything on this forum. Thank you.
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  10. Dzungla

    Dzungla Forum Expert

    I'm curious to find out how did I get this after 243 RL:


    But that's only one slot place and nothing important (just can't move it into gradient bag).

    This is far more annoying :


    Fire lair still have active protector turrets after clearing the map ...
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  11. sargon234

    sargon234 Commander of the Forum

    Yep, powercreep is going to be even worse when the expansion hits, i wonder if they'll have to do a number squish sometimes in the future?
    That bug still happens in all secret lairs, those turrets still remain even after killing the guardian.
  12. trakilaki

    trakilaki Living Forum Legend

    I don't know I learn from what you are posting above :D
    You will end up losing runes or ability to equip them ... of course I am only guessing from what you people say.
    That means i am sticking to my other games where i am killing corona infected zombies :D
    awww dude your ingredient bag is leaking :eek:
    Listen ... don't bother and stop farming lairs it is not worth the effort.
    The new Terrifying Shadows: Rise of the Dead event is coming and you can finish the achievement in an easy way.

  13. ΣMiwel

    ΣMiwel Forum Ambassador

    I'm afraid not. The achievement is for killing "Dark Force" and not Sargon... which I'm pretty sure is going to return with the event.

    The "Abandoned Castle" mentioned in the achievement will of course be the event map (it's the shadowfort), but probably there won't be any "Dark Force" during the event. Currently the map is open to payers who bought one of the new packs as an alternative to the KiFG map, of course paid likewise with the new stupid "cores". There are coffee beans dropping in that map, as those who made it there say.
  14. JohnWick

    JohnWick Advanced

    What has happened is not an exploit, on a new moon and a full moon, people did the same with the repeatable mission to get tier 8-9-10 objects, they entered once and stuck there all day until they got all the legendaries they needed to climb the sets.

    When bp got tired of this he just made the monsters in those missions not drop drops and no one does those missions anymore.

    Now it has done the same thing only faster, taking only one day to prevent you from repeating the mission until you get the achievements in one hour and it takes 59 days (minimum) to get everything.
  15. SillySword

    SillySword Regular

    There is one thing in the content of Hotfix R243.
    • A client crash caused by hovering over a mysterious teleport item has been solved.
    Before hotfix, I got this error.


    After hotfix, I got this information.


    So that should be a renew event "Terrifying Shadow - A New Era".
    You can check the old shadow portal if you still have. :D
  16. sargon234

    sargon234 Commander of the Forum

    What is the so called abandoned castle? and where do coffee beans drop? in Kingshill in former glory they don't drop.
  17. ΣMiwel

    ΣMiwel Forum Ambassador

    A remake of the old event map from your event, Mr. S.

    Right there, in the abandoned castle. As I said before, currently it's available only to those who paid for the packs.
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  18. fedoski

    fedoski Forum Greenhorn

    I've been playing for many years and whenever there is an update my clan says: let's see what they hurt tomorrow.
    And indeed there is always something they touch that gets damaged.
    Normally my ms are 250 and up to 300 and I have gotten used to playing like that.
    Every time I entered the maps everyone knew they had to wait for me.
    Well now to that we add more time to load the maps and it is that not only it happens to me but to all those I know who are very many.

    Now with the new expansion, what do you think will happen with a lot of players? Having to farm all the objects again, lose all the time we use to farm matter and raise the objects to tier10 and thus a host of things that when you come to see are hours, hours and hours of play that you never recover but on the contrary . The only advantage is that old players will have better gems and runes than those who are starting unless they also change them, but along the way many will go to other games. As long as they don't fix what they should fix, the decline will be bigger every day.
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  19. sargon234

    sargon234 Commander of the Forum

    So it's an entire pay only map?
    Who though this is a good idea?

    The remake of Sargon's shadowfort is a pay only area?
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  20. Dragenstein

    Dragenstein Padavan

    In case anyone was wondering, I haven't been playing lately. I gave up on the Dragan event when I got stuck on the 2nd progress bar. Desert of Essences is not worth playing. I was playing Full Moon, but the only things I was getting from it were the speed runes. I have all mighty runes so it is not worth playing that any more. The New Moon event is not worth playing. It's a week until the Ghost Festival. So, I've been playing other games. After several weeks off, the next event is going to have to be super fantastic to get me to play. I've said before that the previous expansions were painful. I'm expecting the next one to be even more painful. I will be surprised if I find a reason to play this game after that.
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