remove flawed gems

Discussion in 'Creative Corner' started by Arr, Sep 6, 2017.

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  1. Arr

    Arr Forum Expert

    flawed gems are useless (+1, +2, +3 stats) and having to combine 100, 200, 500, 2000 can be very bothering.
    Increase splintered drop rate to compensate.

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    Last edited: Aug 10, 2018
  2. Rhysingstar

    Rhysingstar Forum Ambassador

    In principle I agree that it would be nice if the flawed were "replaced" with splintered as the lowest tier, but at this point I am thankful that they still let gems drop instead of forcing us to buy them.
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  3. -DeathRaider-

    -DeathRaider- Forum Pro

    I disagree, keep it the way it is with gems, they are fine and don't have to be dealt with. Who knows, they see this and think maybe for some strange logic to nerf them and the drop rate. I find flawed fine. BigPoint focus on the important issues please. Maybe keep this in mind though if it is followed exactly of what he/she (not sure :)) said.
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  4. krawler2018

    krawler2018 Junior Expert

    the stats would go up way faster and in pve u would kill enemies in 1 hit and u barely receive damage, the gems drop are good as they are now, no need to change that
  5. *N*U*T*B*U*S*T*E*R*

    *N*U*T*B*U*S*T*E*R* Forum Apprentice

    Gem drops are good, the change i would like to see is the ability to drag all 99 into the combiner and click once for all to be combined rather than having to do 3 at a time manually.
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  6. Rhysingstar

    Rhysingstar Forum Ambassador

    The stats have already jumped. We went from 3K to 30K in dmg less than 2 years and look at HP. Two years ago no one dreamed of 100K. It wasn't gems that wrecked that.

    I agree that this is an okay idea, but there are far more important ones that need to be addressed before this one is considered.

    I love the idea of allowing mass combining of gems. That I would say could be implemented today and we would all be better off for it.
  7. Arr

    Arr Forum Expert

    yes, there are more important things but I suppose they can do more than 1 thing at a time.

    what drop would you prefer, 3 flawed gems or 1 splintered?
  8. bLaind

    bLaind Forum Baron

    What would you prefer, 3 flawed gem drops per day or 1 splintered gem drop per week?:rolleyes:

    If they remove lower tiers... expect a drop nerf.
  9. Arr

    Arr Forum Expert

    why are you comparing 1 day to 1 week?
    let me fix it

    "What would you prefer, 3 flawed gem drops per day or 1 splintered gem drop per day?"

    you all are a little negative/fearful
  10. bLaind

    bLaind Forum Baron

    Something like that... or not.:p
    Let me try it differently, more enlightening-ish:
    What would you prefer, a daily drop of 9 flawed gems and 1 splintered or a daily drop of just 1 splintered gem?

    In case you don't get it:
    Let's take a test batch of 10 gem drops for example, from which 9 are flawed and 1 is splintered (or higher if you're lucky). [I'd say this is normal nowadays.]
    If you remove the flawed gems, you're left with what? Yes, only one splintered gem drop.
    Is this good? No, because of the removal of the flawed gems, you've just lost 9 of them (which could've been combined into 3 splintered ones).
    Do you get it now?
    Last edited: Sep 8, 2017
  11. MikeyMetro

    MikeyMetro Forum Overlooker

    I am going with @Arr on this one. Back in the day polished gems were the highest tier. Flawed were valuable for a new toon back then. These days though even low lvl gear has bas stats making flawed pointless for even for noobs.

    At endgame lvl flawed are even more pointless. They just take up slots unti the stack gets to 99 the there is the hassle of mashing them together. I do support the idea of mass combing gems but this still leaves wasting inventory for these useless gems.

    I think getting rid of them and adjusting the drop chances would be a good thing. Splintered would have the old drop chance as flawed, simple as splinted, etc.

    Luck be with ye,
  12. bLaind

    bLaind Forum Baron

    Who the heck needs gems? Just remove them completely from the game, they're useless anyway.:rolleyes:
  13. MikeyMetro

    MikeyMetro Forum Overlooker

    Funny thing is there is some truth in your sarcasm. I recently started 3 new toons to check some things out. One of the things I was looking at was the effect of adding base values to low level gear. It turns out that these new stats on gear are significant enough that up to level 30 (as far as I have got with any of the toons) I actually do not use gems below simple.

    The base values on whatever gear that drops (even white gear) are sufficient to handle the pve quests along the way. If I find a flawed or splintered is stick it in whatever open slot and then remove it and stash it in the locker next time I am back in town. This is extremely helpful when playing with 3 rows of inventory ad storage.

    Moving added to endgame level what does everyone do with these little gems? We ignore them until the stack reaches 99.

    Basically the game has evolved to the point to make little gems obsolete. I am not suggesting removing them and have nothing drop in their place. Rather remove them and adjust the drop so the next higher gem drops instead.

    Luck be with ye,
  14. Iselda

    Iselda Advanced

    I keep combining "the little gems" as soon as I got 3 of them and make a bigger stone. Never seen a point in stacking 99 of them (or even more) and then complaining that they're useless or space consuming. If you ask for removal, the drop ratio will change for worse and finding any gem will be more difficult. So no, I'd like it to stay as it is.
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  15. Arr

    Arr Forum Expert

    thats not how it works, in that case you will get 4 splintered not 1
    in a more more enlightening-ish way is like you get flawed already combined.
    Last edited: Sep 25, 2017
  16. Rhysingstar

    Rhysingstar Forum Ambassador

    The real problem with this beyond that other things need to happen first is that if this were done, the dev's would find a way to mess it up.

    Remember when they "adjusted" the cost of realm frags to enter into events and promised to up the drop rate? That took months for them to finally do it.

    I could see the same thing happening here. They remove the flawed gems promising to bump the drop of others and then months and months go by with players complaining day and night before they finally up the drop rate.
  17. trakilaki

    trakilaki Living Forum Legend

    I would rather have 50 flawed than 5 splintered gems.
    You people are lazy :p can't you remember what it used to be like? We were crafting gems after every single run and put them in gem holders. Now you keep your inventory clogged with gems :D :D
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  18. *N*U*T*B*U*S*T*E*R*

    *N*U*T*B*U*S*T*E*R* Forum Apprentice

    Haha yes, it is much better now that we can stack gems and dont need "gem holders" anymore. Just from a time saving mechanic, it would be nice to drag a stack of gems whether it be 5, 50 or 99 and just click "combine" once.

  19. Arr

    Arr Forum Expert

    "I would rather have 50 flawed than 5 splintered gems."
    english is not my language so i don't get the jokes, but if that is not a joke then it has no sense.

    whatever, tell developers to do something with this issue, any way they want, this doesn't affect players negatively so they don't need our aproval.
  20. Novadude

    Novadude Commander of the Forum

    50 flawed gems would combine into 16 splintered gems with 2 flawed left over. Trak is pointing out that the likely result of this will be to reduce the total value of the gem drops.