Spellweaver Guardian

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  1. Mindship

    Mindship Forum Inhabitant

    Having temporarily retired my lvl 50 ranger, I've been playing spellweaver for a while (interesting differences!). Regarding the SW Guardian's power: the skill descrip says it fires for 10 seconds (and watching it, it seems to fire 1/sec, for 10 shots) to deliver 100% of my base damage. Question: is the total guardian attack worth 100% (ie, each shot delivers only 10% damage), or is it 100% damage for each shot, thus the guardian is delivering 1000% over the 10-sec time?

    The effectiveness of the guardian leads me to suspect the latter, but given how BP thinks ...
     
  2. MegaNuker

    MegaNuker Forum Ambassador

    It is the latter. And I have not figured out what triggers the taunt of the Guardian ether. Most times it does not work.
     
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  3. sebastian_fl

    sebastian_fl Count Count

    I've done 1.5k m2 5k solo runs using the Guardian and he seems to taunt in two cases - 1. if he is hit by a mob, for example you have placed it right in front of a knight in m2. 2. If he gets aggro from any mob in the area. That is if you either do not attack or you are far from a certain mob, or he got an aggro on certain mob by making few shots.

    I have learned to place it so he taunts right away, and works in almost all cases.

    And yes, it is a bug, mentioned several times here in several threads, as well as the other lang forums. I have not seen any reply from mods on the matter though.
     
  4. Mindship

    Mindship Forum Inhabitant

    Yeah, I've noticed it doesn't seem, generally, to take immediate effect. Usually the guardian has to shoot first.
     
  5. MegaNuker

    MegaNuker Forum Ambassador


    Well I have had it die and it timeout with out it taunting. Placed it on the other side of a wall still nothing. Just seems to work sometimes and other times it does not.
     
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  6. sebastian_fl

    sebastian_fl Count Count

    That's weird.

    @Mindship, please mark the thread as a bug. Perhaps will get some attention.
     
  7. fourtwenty68

    fourtwenty68 Board Analyst

    i been seeing the same thing,the mobs have the taunt icon above their head but most still run after me.
    it should work right away and not have to wait till guardian shoots something or ur toon be close enough to a mob to trigger ur
    guardian to shoot as well.
    i think the perimeter of how far away ur guardian is cast from u should be extended(being how close u need to be to a mob for the guardian to to start shooting n taunting),because it will not shoot until u walk closer to the mob.
    plus if ur to close to a mob the guardian's taunt doesn't attract the mob till 2 or more seconds later,and that is only sometimes. lol
    maybe write to CM's in 'ask the CM's thread would help.
    be great if it worked right.;)
     
  8. Mindship

    Mindship Forum Inhabitant

    No problema. I didn't know you could do that after the thread's made. How do I do that?
     
  9. Anyki

    Anyki User

    Hello everyone,

    The broken guardian taunt is a known issue. :)

    Cheers,
    Anyki
     
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  10. sebastian_fl

    sebastian_fl Count Count

    Thanks Anyki. Is it also known if that is going to be addressed anytime time soon? :) thanks

    Nevermind @Mindship, I dint know it is impossible after thread is created :)
     
  11. Anyki

    Anyki User

    That is information I don't have. When the fix comes (whenever that will be), the information will be released in patch notes. :)

    Cheers,
    Anyki
     
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  12. Mindship

    Mindship Forum Inhabitant

    Question regarding the Guardian of Flame talent: it says, "allows Guardians to shoot Fireballs" -- capital 'F' -- "burning all foes around them." It doesn't give stats: no dmg%, range, etc. Is this because the Guardian Fireball is the same as the separate Fireball skill? If so, then increasing Fireball skill dmg by 15% should benefit the Guardian Fireball ... or are the Guardian's balls different?
     
  13. fourtwenty68

    fourtwenty68 Board Analyst

    as far i see the guardian does 1000 of an 1800 base damage no crit hit on souls map1 pw test.
    regular damage from magic missile 900ish, so 100% of guardian is 1000ish.plus burn tick.
    u never get full damage because of mobs res n armor.
    but idk i think guardian is fine
    and they should add slowing 9 meter radius to him or heal with ur toons fireball,magic missile healing is not that great.;)
     
  14. BigPapa

    BigPapa Forum Overlooker

    I've never tested it on different spells (MM vs FB) but all pets use a % of summoners base damage as their own damage. It is somewhere around 60%. It would be interesting to know if something like a skill change for pets and boosts to that skill on gear/talents increased pet damage. I would speculate that level of complexity is not programmed in, but may be surprised.
     
  15. Mindship

    Mindship Forum Inhabitant

    Thank you, gentlemen. I don't have to wonder now where to heist 3 talent points from.
     
  16. MegaNuker

    MegaNuker Forum Ambassador

    Best place to test pet damage is swarm fields. Here mobs have very little armor so you deal more damage and you can see more of the raw damage. I like to pull up a staff with a huge amount of damage summon and back to wand.
     
  17. _Baragain_

    _Baragain_ Living Forum Legend

    The other thing you can do to test is remove your weapon and anything that gives you a damage gap. Then you have a single base damage and every hit hits the same. That allows you to calculate the monster's resistance/armor (both 50% against same level). It would also allow you to compare your summoned minion's damage to your normal fire ball damage and find the exact % difference and if the 15% damage applies to the guardian.
     
  18. Mindship

    Mindship Forum Inhabitant

    ^ Intriguing.

    Things to try when bored of the daily grind.
     
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