Summer Bags or Jewel Chest

each country has its own rules, in China it is legal.
about my country:
Online gambling was legalized in Italy with a decree of the Customs and Monopolies Agency introduced in 2006. In order to offer online gambling services in Italy, operators must obtain a license from the Customs Agency and the Monopolies. The Italian licensing body is very careful in evaluating license applications, making sure to only grant licenses to reputable and reputable companies.

 

FROM https://board-en.drakensang.com/threads/community-letter-release-213-14.76312/

PvE Season Event Attire is gambling for me because you sell only a "chance to drop jewel..."
Surprise Lottery Box or Summer Fortune Bags is gambling

But all this does not contradict the reason why the jesters were removed....now when you must buy something you must not staying in urban areas.

 

These 15 bags were booked as a compensation for Summer Spirit quest that had to be stopped due to players abusing it;

kind regards;
Shine2

 

Not talking about gambling but "gambling IN Games".
Gambling is regulated by law and the gambling age is different from country to country.
In some countries it is 18+, in others 21+ or 23+ or 25+ ... in many countries gambling is prohibited and illegal.
If gambling is involved in games they have to comply with the laws and that means that the games should not be available for children and those who are under the gambling age. But games including Drakensang are having no such limitations.
In games most common form of gambling are i.e. loot boxes. These are the most common fraudulent items that gaming companies are using and targeting mostly children. These predatory tactics are hot topic for a quite some time.

That is not true
In China gambling is prohibited by law. No one can gamble in China regardless of the age, it is illegal. The only legal form of gambling in China is a lottery.

China has a separate law for loot boxes in games and all companies must comply.
Under these laws:
- gaming companies must provide information about the content, property, name and quantity of the items and the drop rates of the items. This info must be publicly announced and available on the company's website or in game.

in same time random draw results must be publicly announced and records kept for more than 90 days and companies must keep records for government inquiry.

- there must be limits (usually daily) of how many boxes players could buy. They can't buy:

*more than 30 single loot boxes
*more than 3 “10x” loot box bundles
*more than 50 boxes in total​

these numbers could be slightly different but now you know why those limits were implemented in DSO
- player's daily limit must be displayed in game and the players must be able to see how many boxes available remaining
- drop rates of loot boxes MUST NOT remain static, drop rates should gradually change in player's favor in correlation to how many boxes they opened/purchased. That means the player's chance to get certain item must increase with each box they open. ( this one is most significant rule and I bet none of you knows it )

Things were never random in games even before these new laws they were always rigged.
But the thing is ... the gaming companies are making drop rates different for different regions or different servers if the servers are covering different regions. That means servers covering China or Korea most probably have different drop rates than servers in EU or USA in example. This is not a theory these different drop rates were used in DSO ... the devs themselves publicly said they made the drop rates on Tegan higher compared to other servers in order to lure more players on that server.
So yeah, many things are rigged in games in many ways.

Nope you are wrong
Imagine that feature under these laws where each player can only place 10 bets per Jester daily. There is no need of that feature in the game anymore

 

Well, DSO technically requires legal age to purchase the product, viz. TOS.

It is true that it should not be included in a game with underage users (or any users), as recommended, however I am not certain whether it is actually prohibited.

 

gambling is when you play to win money
with loot boxes the trick is to spend money, but without win money.... then can it still be called gambling?

 

I don't remember well ... did you win real money from jesters?

 

yes, the player could use andermant and win andermant like in the casino where money is converted in chips

 

But you can't win real money like you buy lottery bags at 2€ and you win nothing 99,999%.
So why BP removed jesters?
It isn't closely gambling but gambling mechanics. So no jester - > no fortune bags, no things with random rewards if I spent real money.

 

Who spend money for random rewards?
kids?
this is the reason that deleted jesters from the game: a lot of kids in the game.
jesters were an other game, a gambling in DSO
they needed licenses and age control, certainly too expensive, so they chose to eliminate the jesters.
Now they have introduced lucky bags to buy with money, I don't know if it can be compared to gambling, if so, it will end up like jesters

 

Yes - Purchase.
Gambling and gambling-like activities are not covered by any T&C because in such case minors should not be granted access by law.
In such case minors can't even get to read T&C because they wouldn't be able to create account because they would be prevented by age verification system. Just like all websites with adult contents (gambling, porn, etc) are using age verification to prevent access. like this
The same system is being used everywhere including gootube.
Not only that , but adult only games need to be marked by adult before even getting to registration form and the Game Content Rating based on video game content rating system. From the retail version of DSO it can be seen that DSO is rated 12+ both by European PEGI and German USK.

Have you ever seen children accompanied by parents or legal guardian in Casino or a Brothel?

Well, maybe that is your definition but it is inaccurate
Anything valuable can be used for betting.

Money is just a medium so people would exchange things and goods more accurately.
Even if money doesn't exist people could gamble or exchange/trade things.
Gamblers are betting all kinds of things like cars, houses, apartments, watches, gold, silver, diamonds etc etc.
In the virtual world of the games real world commodities are getting converted to in-game currency/commodities.
Gaming companies are using all kinds of tricks and exploiting loopholes ... usually by making players buy virtual game currency and then buy virtual game things or place bets.

 

We are again talking about should not, but it is not exactly illegal. The term gambling is very ill-defined, and German regulations seem to be almost non-existent. The only fact is the ethical standards of the company have dropped in order to milk more cash out of customers. Again, if you happen to find any law in any state DSO sells these lottery items to, which has a fitting gambling definition and a law that would be violated, definitely share that, I was not successful, many states just protect the gambling legally for profit.

Actual age verification is almost impossible or extremely annoying, I'd say it is pretty rare.

DSO's Pegi is outdated to the point is could be in a museum, it does not even address in-game purchases, letalone gambling.
Pegi actually has its Gambling category, which is described as

DSO would not be fitting into this, but also it is not a law.

 

If you are talking gambling I already provided full list of countries where gambling is illegal (under certain age or completely illegal).
Loot boxes as a form of gambling are either completely illegal in some countries or special rules and laws are applied.
China is one example where all forms of gambling are illegal but loot boxes are available only under specific conditions covered by their law.
From Asia from top of my head I can mention China and Japan as biggest markets and both have regulated loot boxes under special regulation considering loot boxes as gambling. Same goes with Netherlands and Belgium from EU.
(example - loot boxes declared illegal)
There is no universal law but each country has its own.
Are loot boxes form of gambling? The answer is Yes!
Here is a question from a member of the European Parliament and the answer she received.

Now ... You shifted the topic to gambling by misreading what I said in my earlier post. I was talking not gambling but gambling-like mechanics in games ... having in mind loot boxes. There is no point of arguing about gambling because the situation is clear as day ... gambling is illegal under certain age or completely illegal.

Now lets get back to topic ... why did I mention loot boxes/gambling regulations in games?
Because people think drops are random. No they are not!
Drops in games are rigged ... and even if they are made "random" there is no randomness in games. Randomness in games is driven by an algorithm and algorithms are being made by programmers. Programmers can always insert condition and declare "don't do this or don't do that" IF "this or that" else "proceed with this". And yet again they will consider the drop random.
Algorithms are being made to rip people off ... that is how gaming companies are making money.

 

But these countries would still have to classify ingame lootboxes as gambling to apply that.

Does DSO market these items in these countries? Also an important question is whether these laws are enforced, since some unlawful practices especially virtual ones may be ignored if they do not cause large scale damage.

That is not "Yes", that means states decide and regulate it however they want, EU just gave some recommendations.

I mean they can be random, whether or not they actually are may be pretty difficult to prove, but since DSO does not make any claims about their probabilities they cannot violate them, even if it was rigged to the point the lottery loot boxes only dropped the most useless item, they could still say you have received any of the items they have listed, so you got what you paid for.

 

it can be called gambling when the goal is to win money because it's money and only money the real problem, sure in poker they can offer jewels or things of value, but as you can see at the end of your video it's the pot with money that wins