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  1. oOKellueHazeOo

    oOKellueHazeOo Regular

    The ranger used to be pretty damn OP , well in level 45 days lol. Even now a lot of low level rangers are good, 3 stuns, fast speed (with shortbow) infinite BD (with longbow) but im not too sure about high level rangers as they never pvp at 55.
  2. KulawyMao

    KulawyMao Exceptional Talent

    rangers are good on 55 but u need good eq and good skill in hand
    if u have weak eq or 0 skill it's the same in all class = walking potion ;p
  3. MaxDisappointed

    MaxDisappointed Forum Master

    Actually, to play ranger you need more skill than to play another class. Hardest to aim due to having the thinnest abilities, hardest stuns to aim, and less than other classes, and plenty of harmful bugs in contrast to other classes that have beneficial bugs for themselves.
    Some of the arrows you fail as a ranger, would be successful shots if you did with other classes because the thickness is greater when shooting.
    In add, FS usually deals more damage than shooting EA to a marked enemy (ranger needs to mark in contrast to the rest of classes).
    And a large etc.
    I would like to see a mage trying to aim a net instead of this huge frozen wind that does not require any precision or skill as a player.
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  4. oOKellueHazeOo

    oOKellueHazeOo Regular

    You can stand next to someone and stun them with hunting trap, Net them , then bird of pray, then use hunting trap and then blade dance until all your stuns are avaidable again. And that happens in 1v1, however it's much worse when they start laughing and calling you a noob when they just dance around the arena.
  5. MaxDisappointed

    MaxDisappointed Forum Master

    Seems like you talk about hunting trap in the war perspective, who then is going next to a ranger in a fight? Or next to a dwarf, or next to a mage? You just see how the ranger put a trap, so you don't walk into it. If we talk about wars, then using skin you antistun it and you are inmune to stuns some seconds so no net, no bird is stunning you, while the war have more stuns and easier to aim to rekt the ranger with that gwenfara shield, 2 hits can low half hp, while ranger don't have enough antistuns for it.
    Bird is just a bad joke, a simple step can dodge it, you can also keep fighting in distance doing circles, bird is not going to hit you while you don't stop attacking.
    About blade dance, you can overtake his movement due to the slow animation of the skill and launch your attacks to the end point of the trajectory, so you will stun/hit the ranger easily.
    In summary of your post, the only thing a ranger can do is dance to try not to die vs better classes xD
  6. nikatar

    nikatar Junior Expert

    It is completely stupid when 2-3 or more people are in teams and they go to arena! It happens all the time especially when they are really good! That is unfair! Fix it...
  7. MaxDisappointed

    MaxDisappointed Forum Master

    Solo or group PvP should be that, inscribing solo or in group. 5v5 of no premade groups or 5v5 of 3+2 or 5 premade groups.
  8. weetikveelofso

    weetikveelofso Forum Greenhorn

    Number 1 in The Hall of Honor has now 99274672 points.
    This player is a level 19 DK.

    Is this even possible?
  9. oOKellueHazeOo

    oOKellueHazeOo Regular

    Grab a team and stop complaining.
  10. MaxDisappointed

    MaxDisappointed Forum Master

    Some of us don't want to play in a premade team, to try win games by being carried for a war in flag or something like this.
    Any decent game have the choice to go solo or premade vs another solos or premades. It's not a big deal to do the matchmaking fairer.
    Since when PvP is about trying to do the best combination in a premade group to win easier? It's just cowards way.
  11. nikatar

    nikatar Junior Expert

    The problem is that they are better anyway, even if i grab a good team! Also, nobody told you to comment. If you dont agree just pass! No need to be offensive ;)

    --- MERGED ---

    I agree in one way but sometimes it is impossible to win!
    Last edited by moderator: May 20, 2019
  12. Durendhal

    Durendhal Forum Greenhorn

    he's not lvl 19 but 55, he made his name with different characters so whenever you try to type his name you get another result, he is Daywaker2 from Balor Server.
  13. oOKellueHazeOo

    oOKellueHazeOo Regular

    Oh god, you counted that as offensive? Lord.

    Okay MaxDissapointed, You dont want to play in a team? That's nobody elses problem go play solo inside a group match.

    Arr, I make a group so i can play with friends, have fun, and win games, not to bully new players. INFACT we actually come up against group as strong as us., No pvp is trash because YOU, the community complained so much about pvp and now it's completely ruined, dont stick half of this on me as i never made a pvp post complaining about pvp pre R214 EDIT .

    Nikitar, It's a forum.. Ill comment if i want to.
    Last edited by moderator: May 22, 2019
  14. Jhinstalock

    Jhinstalock Active Author

    I wanted to comment on this because I'm unable to enjoy PVP in its current state. I've come to the conclusion that mage is the strongest class, followed by dragonknight, and after that I'm not sure if mech or ranger is better. While I solely based this off of my own experience playing the different classes, the leaderboards proved my point more than I could have dreamed of. Mages have instant stuns, one of which removes any current stun, a nice counterspell. Their frozen sphere is very easy to hit because its circle shaped, and the only requirement is to slow them with their ice or stun them. I personally have been pvp'ing on dragonknight and ranger, and I've found that the lack of resistances vs mage damage allows them to not only deal a lot more damage than the other classes, but abuse easier mechanics. When I play my ranger, I put every ounce of skill I have into dodging attacks, but it's laughably easy for garbage pvp'ers to use mages and beat me sometimes. I'm fairly certain that even if mages were changed to deal 100% physical damage instead of elemental, they would still be the best class.

    My only problem with dragonknights is their healing, and the fact that I don't even have to damage them 3500 for them to get enough rage to use a heal of that magnitude. My PVP gear isn't maxed so perhaps it's different when you can brute force your way to an instant kill, but I have nothing but frustration when playing against heal spammers. I think that dragonknights can win PVP without healing if they have skill, and it should therefore be removed entirely.

    For rangers, I know I'm biased but the fact that I have to mark someone in order to deal decent damage is way too difficult to pull off compared to other classes. Marking a target is easy enough, but they're often removed right away by each classes stun removal. All of ranger's stuns are NOT instant except for the trap which is difficult to place directly on a decent player. Without stuns, the only good parts about rangers are above average mobility which I do love. There are no other strengths.

    I have little experience with mechs, but they don't seem to be too bad. Lots of damage in their kit, as well as healing, and one instant stun that just requires you to be close. I think that they would be god tier too if they had a second instant stun, but overall the constant heals while running from a losing fight is my only issue.

    If anyone has some legitimate criticism I'd love to hear it, and I would also be happy to provide videos that show a large difference in skill that I still lose because of character design. Thanks
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    HEXMETAL Forum Apprentice

    I suppose Wizards are now the best class for PVP. I won many rounds against players with much better damage and hp.
  16. Testador

    Testador Junior Expert

    I can not accept regeneration in pvp, or it's for everyone, or for none (I prefer).

    Without regeneration, the pvp would be more dynamic, it runs and regenerates and a boredom, and unfair.

    And the stuns in a row I do not like too, that in group arenas is unfair, in previous versions when we had that ability of the pvp tree not to stun for 4 seconds would be very interesting (or 10 seconds, as the Devs said).
  17. Dzungla

    Dzungla Forum Expert

    No problem, if DK class get dual wielding skill and desert eagles at least if heckler would be too much.
    Till there is one melee class in arena - that would be the same like deleting that class from it!
    True, they could add that as only arena buff, same as bs etc.
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  18. Burn84

    Burn84 Junior Expert

    The problem is not the healing skills Dk and Mech have or Mage with stuns,
    The real problem is the "Aim Bot" everyone use it in pvp ...
    We cant do nothig about that rangers ,dk,mage,dwarf 60% of players in pvp use it .

    Bp dont want to permaban them becouse they lose mony from them .

    I leave the game almost 4 years ago wen Drakensang was full of booter and i come back to see that nothig change .
    I have a freand we made videos and send them to supporto and they told him they not see nothig rong in videos .."attaching and moving around u in same time is normal " :D

    Moderators not gone do nothig becouse they got specific orders from devs to delete or shutdawn all threads about Cheaters.

    I was hopping that Dev,s decide to give a trial ban 30 days for all players whu use " third party program " before this event come ,like a warning

    Sry for my bad english .
  19. piteris2

    piteris2 Regular

    I’ve said this many times and I’ll say it again, DKs are a tank. And a tank by definition means exactly that. They should be able to take loads of damage because of their lack of range. Although I will agree that tanks in this game have some abilities with crazy range (ground breaker, charge, etc.).

    Now the way tanks are implemented in this game is confusing and is unlike any other MMORPG I’ve seen. Basically in DSO, DKs have only marginally higher HP than the other classes. This is not how it is in other games, so to compensate, they need a way of regaining HP. Dwarves, SWs and RAs don’t need HP regen. And getting rid of all healing would mean that you’d have to double the DKs health and armor, which isn’t a solution.
  20. Purgerzg

    Purgerzg Active Author

    First we need to remove cheat/hack and similar users.
    Today was very dynamic,DK give 3877dmg with smash (I block + have 69% armor reduction+12%dmg reduction on pvp), no armor break,he doesent have any buff;
    RA who play with like 1% HP(and receiving dmg from FS and quick shot);
    dwarf spaming turrets,oil,like he have instant steam regen;
    DK who increase HP after he was hit by FS....