What Do We Know So Far?

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  1. Dzungla

    Dzungla Forum Connoisseur

    To be honest, I didn't pay enough attention on that part of post but looking at this, have to admit that I could just guess how "one line" works:
    Any item enchant line can be unlocked and then drag&drop ...

    We'll have to wait and see .
     
  2. raider

    raider Forum Pro

    Well, apparently they will remove the item Tiers and there will be item "Level" depending on the Monster level/difficulty

    Whatever that means..
     
  3. silverseas

    silverseas Forum Baron

    Items already have levels though. So perhaps we're returning to the old days where there was just an item level, no Tiers? What about Augment cores? :p Just trash now?
     
  4. raider

    raider Forum Pro

    Yea, vague and confusing again.
     
  5. sargon234

    sargon234 Commander of the Forum

    They don't even know how to hype.

    Or they also don't know what this expansion will bring.
     
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  6. raider

    raider Forum Pro

    Devs being vague ain't something new but whoever making these posts either don't know anything about the game or just don't care much to ask for details.

    Or.. Devs just couldn't %100 decide what to do..
     
  7. FAALHAAS

    FAALHAAS Forum Pro

    Tiers will all be gone...

    Wonder what they do with base stats this time then, since everyone be noob if they end up with lvl55-60 gears tier 0
     
  8. gbit

    gbit Forum Overlooker

    I think they will rework all items to adapt to the new situation... It's clear they are changing the game in many ways... We must hope they will also balance the changes.
     
  9. FAALHAAS

    FAALHAAS Forum Pro

    Hmm...we'll see. I am kinda glad i didnt tier up anything for last couple months tho. Saw everyone going crazy upping everything to tier10 and i just sticked with inf3-4.
     
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  10. cigarbennett

    cigarbennett Forum Expert

    What do we know so far is the topic hmmmmmmm.
    1: We know they are going to make us all START OVER.
    2: We know the bosses will have shields that will require 3 and 4 times longer to kill them.
    3: We know that by removing the tiers in gear, that the gear we have now will be the best gear we will have. Unless you spend hundreds of hours dying thousands of times doing the hardest map for random drops with random stats. Odds are even if you are lucky and get a drop stats won't be better then what you have now.
    4: We know they have said that they will improve the drop rate. We all know that is a lie, they have never improved the drop rate to any significant value.
    5: We know they will introduce a new mount. Something that looks like a rabid bat crawling on the ground. We all have dozens of mounts can only ride one at a time.
    6: We know they ruined PVP it is zero fun now. We know now they are in the process of ruining PVE.
    7: We know they have said crafting is one of their priorities. Removing the tiers in gear leaves the question is it a priority for them or for the players.
    8: We know they are removing tiers in gear, leave the question what about cores. Chances are based on their previous track record cores will be useless and will give you little if any compensation for them.
    9: We know they have introduced new skills. Doubt the skill will be any more effective then the skills now. Even if they prove to be effective BP will changes them because they are to OP.
    10: We know that they have not put any of this on the test server. November 24 is just around the corner, no testing means there will be tons of glitches.
    11: We know you will be able to transfer your preferred enchantments from one piece of gear to another. Yea right sure they are going to let you do this. It will just be a money grab, they will let you for oh lets say 40k ander.
    12: We know the max level cap is less then 75. If you can believe that guy on twitch. With his fidel and fidlest nonsense.
    13: We know they will add a gem/rune slot to gear. Money grab probably will cost 100k ander for something you will sell/melt a few months from now. And of course they have had players grinding gems for gold dust. Just think you can buy a bunch more gems to put in these new slots.
    14: We also know none of this is official. They have made no official announcements on any of this. Just a few misleading Facebook posts. General comments on Twitch.
    15: We know this is not a content expansion as they keep advertising it. This will be a completely different game.
    16: We know that GOP will no longer be used to level up gear. Will be used for crafting. Who even knows what this means. They are going to make us all newbies looks like.
    17: We know that Bigpoint should never have even started hyping this. Unless they were going to explain in detail. Instead of just tossing out tidbits that make everyone speculate and get pissed off.
     
    Last edited: Oct 6, 2020
  11. vampiro

    vampiro Advanced

    New skills? Not at all, there are just some changes in the already existant skills, changes for BP are: recycling an already existing boss skill and copy/pasting it to the different classes, nothing brand new is gonna come to the game.
    That's what they were too busy working on for 3 years, copy/paste of old and basic skills and deletion of tiers. "Ctrl+C, Ctrl+V" Tiers: "Supr" button. Players as fools trying to get tier10 items months ago.
     
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  12. Hiro73

    Hiro73 Forum Expert

    I don't understand this situation.

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    Assuming that the maximum level of enemies is 60 this means that obviously the best sets are level 60.
    But there are these new difficulties:

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    Is a Lv 60 Infernal set the same as a Lv 60 Merciless set? Or the best set of all is the Lv 60 Bloodshed set?
    In this case we can say that the sets are for example, T1 infernal, T2 Merciless, T3 Bloodshed.
    Unless the level of the enemies is calculated by other parameters...
     
  13. FAALHAAS

    FAALHAAS Forum Pro

    My best bet is that monster levels exceed lvl60 and so do the gears.
     
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  14. couda22

    couda22 Board Analyst

    Your assumption is wrong. It seems that the map difficulties will be based on monster levels, so you can expect monster level 100 -> item level 100,maybe even higher.
     
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  15. DamarèRo

    DamarèRo Junior Expert

    Hi all, i have a question and i am not sure, i heard in my guild something about is good to T10 all iteems on the character becouse even 24 november will be no more T our iteems will be much better on stats if they are T10(before the big release) ... anyone know if is true and be worth to upgrade T10, or its a misunderstanding? :)

    Thanks and sry for my bad english.
     
  16. KulawyMao

    KulawyMao Forum Connoisseur

    i have another question
    what they will do with cubes?
    if sb have now cubes: 1k t1 - 1k t5 - 1k t10 what he will have after CE? 3k t0?
     
  17. ΣMiwel

    ΣMiwel Forum Overlooker

    Great, everything comes at a price.

    Same as above. Also it can be done in an interesting way.

    Aand what do you get that assumption from? Also, you're contradicting your statement #1: if the gear you have is the best you can have, what would make you start over?

    You're terribly WRONG. Whatever is coming, you are wrong. The gear will look completly different, whatever it is, and it surely won't match your description. What's the catch? I don't know. Certainly not this though.

    So far it looks like they're going to blow up everything and are rebuilding it from scratch. Honestly, drop rate change is impossible to measure or compare in such a situation.

    The mount is going to be live this month and the expansion is coming in two months, afaik. Also there's nothing to criticize here, their Art Department probably is way ahead in work anyways.

    Now... in the process? Don't make me laugh. Like PvE hadn't been ruined already. You're taking fun from the current zombie-farm? Good for you. Either they're delivering the final blow to the game or they're raising from the knees. I hope for the latter.

    I don't know what you're trying to say, but if I understand correctly, I don't see it this way. Also, many players (including me) requested the tier removal or squish many times, sooo...

    We'll see.

    You're making 0 sense here, sadly.

    They have like two months until the live server date, they have plenty of time to test it.

    I remember players predicting things like that a lot, and it has never came true. STOP IT NOW! You're harming the game and us all. The last time people like you destroyed crafting 2.0 before it came live, we're not letting you do it again.

    Fools indeed. They had announced the CE a few months before the inf5-7. It was obvious that any eq will become trash, that's why I wasn't trying hard for those new tiers. If you had nothing better to do - I guess you had some fun farming. If it was no fun - why were you doing it in the first place?

    There will be time for seeking ways to get some good legacy items. Every single update that tinkers with the eq system leaves such gates. But it's not yet - don't put too much effort in that all. Anyways, I doubt that it would be as simple as t10 items. I'm pretty sure they're going to either
    • squish the tiers
    • convert everything to the generic T while compensating them with some new resources
    • convert the higher T items to higher levels, while still leaving some more levels to get items of
    • leave them as they are while changing the eq system so much that a green new item might be better than some old uniques (happened to many people with many items after R185, may happen now, but may not as well - people really disliked it)
    Exactly the same thing they're doing with items, which we don't know. I listed the possibilities I could think of above. The possibilities would mean to your example (in the same order as above):
    • 1k t1 - 1k t2 - 1k t3
    • 3k t0 + some new resource
    • 3k t0 but their loot will be all different and new OR some new solution like pre-lvlled cubes
    • 1k t1 - 1k t5 - 1k t10 but they will be giving old items OR will give t-generic items but have better general loot with growing tiers
    Bonus possibility: They haven't thought about that just yet and it's good we're talking about it.
     
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  18. vampiro

    vampiro Advanced

    Hahaha, for some reason you are defending the whole situation of BP, thing that I can't understand.
    So you admit there is a possibility that devs do not even know what are they doing yet (after 3 years) and yet you seem like ok with it and you say 2 months is time enough to test such a big change... (click, clock...) This "CE" (that have no new content but recycled content and some deletion of content) is more like a 2.0 version of the game than an expansion. Mmm...
    To be able to play decently in the highest modes to finish events without requiring huuge amount of hours on those boring and repetitive events that they were bringing this year, about 4 editions of 3 different events, with the excuse of an "expansion" that only brings mob abilities to players as extra and passive talents and a big DELETE of content (what made the distinction for players depending the effort and time spent on the game).
    Ok, now the blame is on the critic players. Amazing.
     
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  19. wavi

    wavi Junior Expert

    The children have already started complaining, the expansion will be with almost 100% changes in the game, like all previous expansions.
    maybe they remove x5 critical damage, maybe they remove the benefits of all sets etc, it's a game, if you don't adapt to what they offer you, then you are doomed to get bored. Only fingers are needed for expansion. Please send feedback when the expansion is available on the test server.
     
  20. raider

    raider Forum Pro

    Then it's not an expansion, it's a revamp.
    Oh, it's a game alright.. that was released almost A Decade Ago! and yet still like an Alpha/Beta version that gets revamped every year or two! And all your efforts/money turns into trash!
    That's bs!

    There is absolute no way to defend their way of doing things and you can't put the blame on players when it's Devs/management who actually don't know how to fix their mess.
    Yea I think it will be like this and glyphs will be used to upgrade ur items instead of Augment cores.
     

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