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  1. thanhthanh89

    thanhthanh89 Forum Apprentice

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    sometimes the system is not fair division team
    4v5 and look at their rank
    how to win???
     
  2. skillarea1

    skillarea1 Active Author

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  3. Multi-Sev

    Multi-Sev Forum Overlooker

    Rank doesn't mean anything significant once you reach Ardent Knight and have your level 40 PvP talent. Everyone in that match *could* have their level 40 PvP talent. The only thing obviously unfair from your picture is that it's 5 vs 4.
     
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  4. thanhthanh89

    thanhthanh89 Forum Apprentice

    two players have the same level of Ardent knight of the order they actually have not reached level 40 pvp
     
  5. Multi-Sev

    Multi-Sev Forum Overlooker

    Well, then, I guess it's not fair. Everyone fights unfair fights. What are you looking for, pity? This is, by far, NOT the most unfair match-up I have seen. I've seen 3 v 5, with Centurions on the side with 3 people, vs Marshals and Flag Bearers on the side with 5 people. Your example here is nothing new. Search the forums, you'll find plenty of threads in which you can talk about how PvP isn't fair.
     
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  6. skillarea1

    skillarea1 Active Author

    if i could choose low rank pvp, i will choose centurion which spend much much much money than a few money marshal

    if u see my thread , u will see Mage KOTO just skill pvp lv 35 ( prediction) againts 2 marshal and 2 flag bearer and much kill than marshal

    PVP is not just from rank of pvp, if from many factor
    i hope u find a pvp with low rank pvp as your enemy, but u cant kill him/her even just 1 time
    and u will say " Hardcore payer" because u lose with him/her
     
  7. _Baragain_

    _Baragain_ Living Forum Legend

    This is nothing. I am a Centurion so I'm sure every time I show up in a match my teammates are wondering why they got stuck with the low guy... then I change their minds.
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    I am used to being in unfair fights and making the best of it. I may have lost, but I showed up everyone on my useless team.
     
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  8. ningruoxi

    ningruoxi Forum Apprentice

    Many flag bearers and marshals r relatively weak(compare to crazy pve players) cuz they gained honor from low lvl pvp or hard working.
    Connection/stat/skill r the things that matters IMO
     
  9. thanhthanh89

    thanhthanh89 Forum Apprentice

    same here

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  10. AmerickaNindza

    AmerickaNindza Junior Expert

    yep that is true. but with rank you can figure out how much time player spended in his char. therefore he obviusly has better stats. so in the end rank does matter even if you have same fame lvl as him. except mentor bonus players
     
  11. UnkownOutsider

    UnkownOutsider Forum Apprentice

    What is this?? A school for ants?!?!?!?!

    Instead of complaining, go farm some glifos and upgrade your gear

    Some F2P pics.. ↓ ↓ ↓
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    * just my 2cents ☻
     
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  12. Rev

    Rev Active Author

  13. placeholder007

    placeholder007 Forum Greenhorn

    The PvP system is dominated by three things: the team selection algorithm, the handicapping effect of the fame tree, and the makeup of the population of PvPers.

    The team selection algorithm prioritizes keeping the PvE level of combatants within 5, above preventing too big a difference in capability between combatants (HP/armor/resist, damage output, and other stuff like active buffs, HP or energy regen, etc).

    The fame tree is a noob death spiral. Successful PvP means that your additional capabilites, and that 1%/level difference, help you be more successful against lower-fame characters. And successful PvP gets you honour, so you advance up the fame tree, which helps you stomp lower-fame characters even more...

    The PvP population isn't all that big, so the team selection algorithm ends up producing 5v5 teams that include both high-capability (e.g. an all-uniques glyphed-to-lvl50 all-5*sacred gem character, who has exceeded fame lvl 40), and lower capability characters - an Ardent Legionnaire down there in the mid-20s of the fame tree who really wishes they had that remove-stun talent. The teams look balanced, but that doesn't help the poor sodding Ardent Legionnaire, who isn't going to have much effect on the game even if his team wins - which is just not much fun.

    If your play is focused on getting off a single Groundbreaker/Net/Frostwind before you get one-shotted each time you respawn, because that's the best way to accrue honor, then I'd suggest that the game mechanics need a tweak to give you a bit more of an effect on the game.
     
  14. UnkownOutsider

    UnkownOutsider Forum Apprentice

    blah blah blah pvp unfair blah blah blah
    YOU DONT NEED $$/PVP fame tree fully unlocked to get good honor...
    1 thing is all you need

    SKILLZ

    I make 100k honor and im F2P..ATM #1 daily on Agathon 6.19.2014


    Go Farm, Upgrade gear, Then Pvp..

    stop complaining

    Peace
     
  15. thanhthanh89

    thanhthanh89 Forum Apprentice

    what you really EDIT.. you up here just to show you what's assets but do not like nothing .. I also play for free and I can win in all the pictures ...... what I want to say here is that the team split mode unreasonable
    you do not understand something, go somewhere else
    100k also honor a day .... 200% EDIT with Bouns honor you can achieve tao of 200-300k honor one day
     
    Last edited by moderator: Jun 19, 2014
  16. UnkownOutsider

    UnkownOutsider Forum Apprentice

    Why the vulgar words?

    are you mad at me lmao,

    you keep dieing in arena, because you farmed you honor at low pvp?
     
  17. Melethainiel

    Melethainiel Team Leader Team Drakensang Online

  18. thanhthanh89

    thanhthanh89 Forum Apprentice

    sorry admin ... I really hate those arrogant
    Look! he did not say anything related to the issue that I brought up
    he just said give him victory and the disregard for others
     
  19. merchantventurer

    merchantventurer Forum Greenhorn

    The one thing you need to get good honor... is opponents that are weaker than you.

    After all, if you just needed skills, you wouldn't need to farm to get your gear upgraded first, would you?

    If PvP is futile to play without fully-glyphed and -gemmed gear, then it seems to me like that's a game design which could be improved.
     
  20. moby31

    moby31 Regular

    Still don't know why Elo presuming that having Dk in your team makes u win
    this out of date ...
     
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