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  1. Hetsunien

    Hetsunien Padavan

    The rumor says that if you buy the attire, all infernal modes are unlocked. Is anyone interested in verifying it?
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  2. gbit

    gbit Forum General

    For me is ok, finally I have an end game character...ahahah!!! :)
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  3. TwiliShadow

    TwiliShadow Count Count

    Yup, everywhere is limited to Fatal. I was just in an Inf 3 map an hour ago and was reading an article. Came back and I couldn't get back. :(

    On the hopeful side... maybe they are undoing the mess up of v220 (monster difficulty) and putting it back so that we who were end game that got slapped back to not end game can go back to enjoying the game.

    This 1500-1600 snow essence to beat Big Paws once on Inf 3 vacuums more than a Shark. I'm out of essence and am having trouble farming for 2000 essence an intense hour of fast as I can go, make no mistakes, snowman farming. :(

    On the still vacuums side, because of doing dailies by Pre-Royal Gem craft farming, I now have over 1300 sugar beets... :( ... :rolleyes: ... :oops: ... Oh how I wish they'd have implemented my "Rudolph" idea of converting 99 beets for 999 snow essence once per map regen. :cool:
  4. mariusmgm

    mariusmgm Someday Author

    Good morning all,why is MODE LETAL max ,this morning to get in the winter event map,no more inf1,2,3,4??? any moderators around?
  5. Aslandroth

    Aslandroth Regular

    Wishful thinking. What is FAR more likely is, their algorithms tel lthem too many people are making progress without buying the event attire, and that simply will not do. So they are forcibly slowing down progress until they concoct a nice writeup that will convince the rubes and shills that all is well; nothing to see here.
  6. teddy.bear

    teddy.bear Forum Ambassador

    Hello Heroes :oops: ,

    The issue has been fixed earlier (around 7:30 am CET), the infernal levels are back.
    Best regards,
  7. cigarbennett

    cigarbennett Board Analyst

    Ok seeing as there is no guide/walk tru. Does any one know if we will need Snow essence for the mini event?
  8. Akageshi

    Akageshi Forum Duke

    No, snow essence is only needed to kill Big Paws (the bear boss).

    A guide can be found here. It's of course not official, but it's reliable.
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  9. cigarbennett

    cigarbennett Board Analyst

    Hmm the wiki link... I have read wiki. It does not say you do, it does not say you don't. And like you said wiki is not official. Seeing as they changed the essence requirement in the Halloween event. Would leave one to believe they are gonna require snow this year for the mini. Thank you for your time.
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  10. Akageshi

    Akageshi Forum Duke

    I can't say anything for sure, but I'm almost certain snow essence will not be required. It wasn't needed last year, and I think never before either.

    The necessity of light essences in the Creepy Castle was well known from the test server. There would have already been a total EDIT in the forum if something so badly obtainable as snow essences were required for the minis...
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  11. Vedmak1974

    Vedmak1974 Forum Apprentice

    Today the game comes with grand delays! 340ms and more))) tell me. Are some durals still paying for such a game? Little is deceived with progress so there is still no stability in the server operation !!!!! Thank you guys for such a good attitude to players)))
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  12. trakilaki

    trakilaki Living Forum Legend

    During the challenges snow is required ... to Build Snowman and Throw Snowball.
    If it doesn't say anything what's the issue?
    Why mention something if it is not necessary? In the Big Paws section it is mentioned that you need to use Snow Essence because it is necessary.
    WikiLeaks is not an official government website but it does provide more information than the government does. Doesn't it? :)
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  13. 9ndrei

    9ndrei Forum Expert

    Each event is the same lately. You think we're stupid. You also might want to see how much you can bend us before we break. Two bars in the mini's. 1 instant with crap prizes and 1 unachievable.

    One needs 4,680‬ infernal frags for INF4 to finish the mini challenge. There are 3, increasing in progress amount. Say 15,000 mini's for the minis and the 75k progress for the event on inf4 which gulfs up thousands of infernal passage frags. So about 20-40k frags - at least- (weather you combine the main event inf4 with the mini inf4), plus snow essences for which the drop is an absolute insult, plus spirit stones and PLUS a huge amount of time.

    Honestly, you need to be a no-life-basement-living-spoiled-nerd to finish everything. What's the point here DSO? REALLY, WHAT'S THE DAMN POINT? What is your goal? To waste everyone's time? To screw with us? To frustrate people?

    I've been playing a lot of other MMOs.. and honestly, I haven't seen this UTTER APPEALING LACK OF RESPECT anywhere else. Add to that that the mods on the forum are instructed to chop off posts ( even mentioning another game in a general context) .. and you're honest to God trying to belittle everyone.

    These events, this game is a social study of some sort. Like the Boiling Point show on MTV (can I say MTV, or you're going to censor it?) back in the day.

    Sure, someone will ask "Why play then? Just quit." That would be easier if I were I just started but I've invested time and money into the game to simply pick up and leave, but like many others before me, I will eventually quit. Maybe this year. Granted, I've been hooked - but only because this game had something to offer a few years back.

    Please, pretty please, I want to see that guy, Jessy CM or whatever his name is live stream him doing the event from start to finish. Without giving himself items and stuff, as we well know he does. Just like the average player who PAYS FOR PREMIUM / DELUXE.

    You really, really have no shame, on any counts that I've presented here. And mind you, there are others, not event-related, so I won't elaborate, because.. of course my post will be chopped off or deleted in it's entirety.

    No shame and no excuse.
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  14. luishorus

    luishorus Padavan

    I wonder wy bigpoin asks our opinion if they dont care abaut players? this event is once again na exemple of that,how can a player above 55 level complete all the event,they dont deserv to acomplish all event, and how abaut players that dont have status for inf4. More than a pay to win game drakensang is becoming a pay to play game. Good job devs keep diging drakensang grave.
    P.S Sorry 4 my inglish
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  15. Akageshi

    Akageshi Forum Duke

    They are quite aware that the exclusively infernal 4 challenges are not popular. In the latest live stream they talked about the DtU and Dragan event that are planed for next year. Both will have no exclusive infernal progress bars.
    And btw. Dragan event will be reworked massively + new unique gear. Coming in February.

    Anyway, I've kind of put up with the fact that I can't have everything. My main toon is not strong enough to do infernal 4, and in many cases not even infernal 3 or 2 cause those are either still hard enough or resource costly. This is a freemium game and I guess if one really wants to obtain everything there is, they have to pay or grind like mad.

    So, in this year's Solstice event, I'll be happy to open the big present (hopefully) and that's it. No Rocket attire, no infernal 4 rewards. My main is almost 5 years old and I can't play infernals and I can't finish events. But like I said, next year should be better in this regard, though they mentioned grind again. You will be able to finish events in any mode, but easier modes will be grindier.

    We will also receive a roadmap for next year. Jesse said it would be BIG. So ... let's see next weak in the next live stream.
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  16. 9ndrei

    9ndrei Forum Expert

    Two points for you. First, you sed that "They are quite aware that the exclusively infernal 4". So, the mini challenge consists of ONE bar for 120 progress meaning 2 runs, roughly 10 minutes.. and the rest is as you say, exclusive. If that's not dumb (not what you said, but what they did), I don't know what is.

    Secondly, you said "This is a freemium game and I guess if one really wants to obtain everything there is, they have to pay
    This is a freemium game and I guess if one really wants to obtain everything there is, they have to pay or grind like mad.
    ". Well, guess what, since I started playing this wretched game (5-6 years ago?) I've been premium or deluxe, but lately IT'S NOT ENOUGH. So while it may be 'freemium' for you, for me it's not. Lately, even if I pay.. I still don't get to sit at the cool kids table. So.. why pay? - I ask myself looking forward.
  17. Akageshi

    Akageshi Forum Duke

    I might have sounded like advocating the "balancing". I'm not. I've just given up on getting to sit at the cool kids table.

    My guild mate called the system "pay-2-grind" which I think is quite appropriate. You buy a buff for a ridiculous price and you still have to grind, although not as much as without the buff.

    Now, the infernal 4 issue cannot be bypassed by buying a premium or a buff or progress points directly, right? Well, it is a grind wall that can only be climbed by the strongest of players, which in itself is a flawed logic, as the main rewards from the inf4 bars are not that useful to maxed out toons anymore, are they? Solstice stars, I mean. Well, it's always cool to have more mana, but someone who can farm inf4 easily doesn't really need such item anyway.

    However, like I paraphrased from the live stream, the exclusive infernal progress bars will get scrapped in next year's events.
    I'm sure a problem of even more grind will arise, though.

    I don't know what to think of this, of the grind vs. pay problem. Let's say you buy a deluxe and it's so good that you can do just a few runs and you're finished. Well, free players would not be happy. Premium has to be advantageous but not too much, because then the game would be essentially a subscription based, right?
    At the same time, if a deluxe user still has to buy buffs or is pushed to grind difficulties he cannot play due to lacking power level, there's something wrong with the system.

    If I ran a freemium game, I would give premium players nice cool things mainly. I would go for the natural tendency that people playing MMO's have, and that is the desire to look unique. No get-premium-or-die-grinding practices.
    In a game featuring housing, premium people would have an exclusive opportunity to have exclusive houses.
    In a game with lots of weapons, premium people would have exclusive looking weapons.
    The main question is: Why do people play the game?
    As for DSO, I don't know. It seems to me that most of them play it only to become as effective farmers as it gets. Looks aside.
    That's a problem and BP knows it. They are experimenting with cash shop cosmetics, but I'm not sure if players want that, especially if the game makes progressing so hard or boring and long. People spend their money on getting some progress and then of course they have no desire to spend more on cosmetics. the game monetization needs to be based on either buying advantages, or buying good looks. If it's both, it's ridiculous. It's like paying for electricity and then instead of getting a free loyalty bonus, they let you buy a stuffed animal.
    Ugh, I'm stretching this too much. Sorry.
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  18. trakilaki

    trakilaki Living Forum Legend

    Challenge 1 - 39 runs = 5460 infernal frags
    Challenge 2 - 43 runs = 6020 infernal frags
    Challenge 3 - 49 runs = 6860 infernal frags
    18340 infernal frags required in total
    the main progress bar requires more than 13160 infernal frags
    that is more than 31500 Infernal frags in total

  19. Novadude

    Novadude Commander of the Forum

    I think my extended break shall continue indefinitely....
  20. TwiliShadow

    TwiliShadow Count Count

    I have less than 2000 Infernal frags and no way to get those kinds of numbers anytime soon.

    Guess I'll just have to save up for next year.... if something else doesn't burn them before then...

    And this is why we need Inf Frags dropping in ALL the infernal levels, everywhere.
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