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  1. Sprokkel

    Sprokkel Active Author

    The Inf 4 challenges this year are only for a small group (the very strongest). For all players that fall below that level, this form of Inf 4 is actually impossible.
    If Bigpoint thinks that you can make a profit from this, then Bigpoint did not understand.
    This last group simply misses out on their chance of completing inf 4 and I also think it's a great shame that Bigpoint has no compassion for players who have yet to grow in the game.
    It will be a meager Christmas party this year in DSO.

    And next year Bigpoint will definitely come up with the idea that we need 300K or 400K snow essences to complete Inf 4 ......,
    from snowmen who almost always give 2 or 5 essences, duhhh
    It would be high time for Bigpoint to take all its players into account and not just the strongest, then each player could play a fun event.
    Last edited: Dec 14, 2019
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  2. Akageshi

    Akageshi Forum Duke

    I've just suggested on Discord that we get a community challenge. Considering that the Solstice challenges are just about infernal 4 which most players cannot play or finish, we all should receive something. The condition is to kill Kranparus x number of times in any mode.
    I proposed one solstice star and frags of inf.passage as the prize.
    What do you think? I mean, it's a compromise. People could as well ask for tons of free items, no challenge...
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  3. SillySword

    SillySword Regular

    My DK has enough infernal frags to complete main and three challenges of winter event, but no way to fight in inf. 4. Oops! That's why My DK has so many infernal frags.

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  4. Akageshi

    Akageshi Forum Duke

    I probably have enough too for the same reason. We have to embrace the fact inf.4 is only for the strongest toons.

    In that case, should inf.4 rewards include items like solstice stars, runes, or gems? Or should there only be some little prestigious things to show off?
  5. Hiro73

    Hiro73 Forum Expert

    I have always concluded main event and challenges, this is the first time that I have no resources (Fragments) to get into inf4.
    Seriously, this is the path taken by BP and I think I will never be able to access events in inf4 again.
    However it is incredible, every time the BP staff makes a change, it immediately causes damage.
    Last edited: Dec 14, 2019
  6. myhayevil98

    myhayevil98 Forum Apprentice

    I dont like how the event's progress are now.. is not fear.. all the good stuff are in the inf4 progress bar... in the other bars nothing good.. how am i supposed to grow if everything is on inf4. an example is the kramparus mini-event.. not every player can do inf4 this is so unfair for the comunity.. i liked the old way of progress i events.. where i could farm on every difficulty
  7. Sprokkel

    Sprokkel Active Author

    I also like the previous winter events and the way in which practically every player could fill his progress bar with bet and just keep playing.
    However, there is no play now because Inf4 is made too hard.
    Developers have pretended to give away some nice things, but in the end they ruin our winter event.
    That is the disadvantage of players who just buy everything and then complain that it is too easy and that they no longer have a challenge. That group is also ruining it for the less strong players that still have to grow.
    Developers should do something with this info so that every player can have a fun event.
  8. kuwabaraz

    kuwabaraz Forum Duke

    Unfortunately with the story of inf4 normal and mini event, you have ruled out most of your users, I don't really understand where you'll make cash! Your premium is useless if you can't use it for the whole event including your € 50 cloaks.

    It seems to me a serious act of masochism especially at Christmas.

    Regarding the only ones I was hoping for something different or alternative to the nonsense of q7 for everyone there is no way that things improve or are more fun?

    Single type dropped but unfortunately they are not a valid alternative:


    Ps. Please use in your live streaming the same shield-like sets in both players in pvp battles maybe you can maybe figure it out!
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  9. Dемои

    Dемои Forum Pro

    Any mage drop stone from kranparus or this is not for mages (again)? 4h farm on inf1 (maybe this is just joke that drop on inf1) and I don't drop any stone farming with ranger who doesn't drop it too. 4h farm 5-7min for map - 50 maps on inf1 (+40 on inf4) and still nothing
  10. trakilaki

    trakilaki Living Forum Legend

    It is not a matter of "strongest players" ... strong players can be strong but they still can't be having so much resources. There are strong players who are not ganbanging and botting and they are having far less resources to play the event.
    It has been made ... again ... for the botters and ganbangers who are online 24/7. They will never run out of resources.
    The rest of the players are expected to buy the resources.
    Buying premium is not enough ... you need to buy more items like attires and more resources in order to get a chance to play 24/7.
    That is actually hurting the game big time. The game is hostile towards new and casual players. I wonder how are they planning on increasing income if they are scaring away new players and intimidating the old ones.
    There are plenty of places and ways to engage strong players ... but not events. Especially events that are happening once a year.
    Oh ... and wait for the Rocketmen event ... that so called "event" is the cherry on the cake.
  11. sargon234

    sargon234 Commander of the Forum

    Exactly, it's not a matter of power of characters, or strenght, it's a matter of resources.
    Even top players that have immense strenght can only go so far if they don't have enough resources.

    The main problem with those new events are resources, not strenght.
    And this only favours cheaters of the worst sorts and penalized honest players: i have 67k dmg, 3,21 attack speed, 400% crit dmg and 80% crit in inf 4 and yet i find myself unable to complete the minivents and it's not because i'm weak, but because i have a limited stack of infernal fragments.
    And if the game penalizes honest strong players, it means that new and casual players are even more penalized.

    I believe there can be ways to introduce challenges to strong players: i suggest for example the old nightmare maps( sargon nightmare and christmas nightmare maps) but new challenges could be introduced.
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  12. cigarbennett

    cigarbennett Board Analyst

    hmmm so the debate is that only the strong can do the mini inf IV. Might be true I imagine a lot of players can not do inf IV.. but it is more about the rewards. bigpoint never has grasped the concept of risk versus reward.

    Most of the strong players are ones that have played for years. I have been playing near 7 years now and the rewards are useless . I have 6 of those snowflake runes what ever they are called can only use five. I have five of those other runes what ever they are called. You only have five slots in your cloak. For me would be just a waste of time and resources to grind out the mini. If I am not going to grind it out that means I am not helping weaker players do it either.

    So that eliminates all the players like me and the weaker players who need help. Leaves the ones who will pay cash. Most of the ones paying cash have played a few years. One more rune might improve their toon. Kinda doubt it though would be just meaningless stats. And what is a guy paying cash need with ander as a reward. They will buy it.. So if they do it, it is just for bragging rights.. bragging rights that no one will even know about or care about a week from now. That does not leave much reason for any one to even bother with the mini inf IV.
    Last edited: Dec 15, 2019
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  13. mierlarosie

    mierlarosie Forum Apprentice

    Never ending progress bar again. This was constructed only for those that pay the stupidd cloacks.....I've been a player on this game for more than 5 years. I used to finish event with about 2-3 hours of game every night. this is not the case any more. If i can't finish event with that amount of time spent online, then i think i need a different game.
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  14. TwiliShadow

    TwiliShadow Count Count

    Two of my favorite Muppets. Thanks Trak.

    Seriously. What a joke the current DSO Dev team is. I've never had 18k Inf Frags at one time ever.

    I seriously doubt that the _total_ number of Inf Frags that I've ever got even comes close to 31k.
    Last edited: Dec 15, 2019
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  15. Dемои

    Dемои Forum Pro

    When BP plan increase drop rate for kranparus crystal? I spend 12 hours for farming, more than 200 boss kills for nothing. When I got recomoensation for spending my time for the consciousness that some players dropped 2 crystals even before end mini event?
    In 12h is possible to end all progress bars but for me is still not enough to drop 1 (I need 2 but who cares) crystal :mad:
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  16. Akageshi

    Akageshi Forum Duke

    I did not see >> this << coming, but it's real.
    I am impressed o_o

    2nd and 3rd challenge will not have the inf4 restriction and pigs will be clickable by everyone. Q9 amulet will be fixed as well. Plus some other things.
    Starting Wed. 18th.
  17. cigarbennett

    cigarbennett Board Analyst

    To little to late. Event half over,, a lot of players gave up days ago.. typical BP when it is a disadvantage to players they take their sweet time to fix it. But when It is a disadvantage to BP they do a hot patch so fast 99% of the players never even know it happened.
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  18. erreran

    erreran Forum Greenhorn

    Is for mini and they aren't started, so I think isn't too late. I would like to thanks BP for hearing us, when they do right things we have to say it too.
  19. cigarbennett

    cigarbennett Board Analyst

    hmmm yes to little to late. First mini over,, weaker players that could have used the rune rewards will not get them. Kraken amulet & medusa helm to little to late. If BP really cared about the players, if those items really were an accident they would have fixed them as fast as when there is an error that is a disadvantage to BP. Piggies to little to late, event half over most players have done what they are gonna do for the main part of the event. Bigpoint trying to make amends when the event is half over is way to little to late.
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  20. Akageshi

    Akageshi Forum Duke

    Yea yea, I know it's a relatively late fix, and if you want to be really strict, you may say they made the challenges super restrictive only to later impress people by a generous move. And actually, it's not as generous as it may look: People playing in fatal, for example, will have to do like 3 times more runs than people playing inf4, so yeah, the fix implies a lot of grind but at least it's not made inaccessible by throwing it behind the infernal 4 gate. There are still 2 challenges to go, so it's not that late.

    I did expect some generous gesture, and I tried to push it a little bit on Discord by suggesting the community challenge, but this hotfix seems to be a much better move from BP's side. Nothing changes for inf4 players, while everyone else has a chance to finish the challenges too. They only have to get ready for quite a big grind. Better get used to it because that's what 2020 events will be about.
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