Crafting 2.0 Results

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  1. Zed

    Zed Forum Pro

    Yeah, true !!! I forgot that 1 line can be inherited only 1 time. :D
     
  2. gun

    gun Forum Great Master

    Baragain i hope it is ok to consult here.

    I've lowered my expectation in crafting 2h weapon.
    It seems targeting minimum of 210% wep dam/110 dam or 140% wep dam/210 dam is long way to go for me.

    Atm I have enough exo ingredients to targeting 190% wep dam/105dam or 135% wep dam/205 dam.
    This lowered target still a lot better than my current axe with 204% wep dam.

    My ingredients also consist of some 70%+ crit dam and some 1650+ crit rate.
    This makes possible for me to get those lines too.

    If you were me, while your target is on 2nd paragraph. Do you accept below result and what is your argument?

    190% wep dam/70% crit dam

    190% wep dam/1650 crit rate (axe or hammer)

    135% wep dam/105 dam/70% crit dam

    135% wep dam/105 dam/1650 crit rate (axe or hammer)

    Edit:
    Baragain, if I'm not mistaken in test server you have DK with full legendary gears. Would you mind to show all the gears and stats here. Would like to see halpen if all gears are legendary.

    Thx
     
    Last edited: Jun 28, 2016
  3. trakilaki

    trakilaki Living Forum Legend

    None of them are acceptable to me.
     
  4. gun

    gun Forum Great Master

    In my situation do you suggest me to stick with the plan in paragraph 2?
     
  5. EhtovK

    EhtovK Old Hand

    In my humble opinion, there's no point in putting effort on crafting if your target is going to be a slightly-above-average item, it'll probably take almost the same time to craft as an uber item, therefore, almost the same (or the same) resources and you'll probably rage when a mob drops you a similar item in power. Or as some say, go big or go home, which I support when it comes to this crafting -0.002 thing.
     
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  6. Zed

    Zed Forum Pro

    The fourth looks better to me (axe), especially if you need crit.
    For pure damage, I'd go for a hammer with 3*%dmg and 1*dmg.
     
  7. _Baragain_

    _Baragain_ Living Forum Legend

    I your situation, I would accept one of these two:
    But not one of these two:
    If you check out my 2H calculator thread, you see that crit damage is almost universally useless on a 2H compared to other items, but crit can be useful if you have good crit damage elsewhere.

    Which reminds me, I need to go update that spreadsheet with the new Dragan set and finish my analysis.

    That being said...
    I fully agree with this. I've said it a couple times now. I'm going to do it right the first time so that I don't have to keep trying.
     
  8. Novadude

    Novadude Commander of the Forum

    I disagree with trak. What kind of weapon you should accept will depend on what you currently have, and it might be optimal to accept an intermediate weapon in certain situations.

    It makes a lot of sense to accept a weaker crafted 2H if your current 2H is even weaker, as that weaker but still better 2H can then be used to farm the gold and golden lines needed for an end game 2H faster.

    I personally accepted a 140%/+100 2H gun on my SM as, based on my memory, it is now about a 180 dps improvement over my previous 2H gun, when my current improved gems were factored in. However, as my DK has a 169%/+90 2H hammer that dropped last year near the beginning of the level 50 game, I am just going for an endgame 2H axe or hammer similar to that as baragain right now.
     
  9. trakilaki

    trakilaki Living Forum Legend

    Exactly.
    That was my point ... not everyone has the same goal in the game.
    Instead of asking other people he should decide for himself.
     
  10. Armando

    Armando Forum Connoisseur

    You may have noticed that I haven't been saying too much lately, at all.
    I am still busy with more important things than DSO (and i would like to keep it that way :) ). (And, i had technical trouble with my PC so I couldn't play - makes it easier to overcome the addiction ;) ).
    Anyway, from all I see it's reasonable possible to get useful things out of crafting 2.0, even after the nerf.
    I haven't been as lucky as @_Baragain_, didn't manage to craft really great legendaries from my good exos so far.
    Still, I'm happy with the system. Sometimes I'm even a it annoyed that I SHOULD be inspecting every single green item while I just wanna empty my inventory and return to farming ;).

    What was the faulty theory, again?
    Can't remember having said the nerf would prevent people from getting nice items. I THINK i only said it will prevent buying them for insane amounts of gold and andermant, without any real need for farming.
    I don't intend to argue, though... as stated above, I'm kinda out of here. :)
     
    Last edited: Jul 3, 2016
  11. bLoodZ

    bLoodZ Someday Author

    I'm having a hard time finding scraps... especially for weapons. I barely managed to get a line from a green sword into a blue axe, now I wanna get 2 lines from a hammer and that axe into an exo axe.
    So... I would like an advice on how to get scraps.
    I've used all my honor points trying to make an exo shoulder(s), without success so far.
    But PvP isn't such a great idea since most of the those honor bought items have 0 gem slots.
    Another option would be to open magic chests (5 lockpicks).
    So... where the heck should I farm for blue equipment (lvl 50)?
    Oh... I'm also doing a random green to blue crafting with 1-2 axes and other types in hope for a blue axe.
    Uhm... Is this a self-answering post?:rolleyes:
     
    Last edited: Jul 7, 2016
  12. trakilaki

    trakilaki Living Forum Legend

    Wherever you wan't ... you can farm normal maps, PWs .... events.

    I said I won't be showing my crafted items ... so consider this as a one time teaser ;)

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    I have few more similar bows ... so I am close to my 4/4 legendary longbow :)
     
  13. Zed

    Zed Forum Pro

    q1 and q3 are my favorites, because I get a lot of greens.
    Getting greens & blues with 3/4 slots is indeed the most difficult thing.
    So far (1 week of serious farming) I have 10-15 blues, almost all with 4 slots and 1 golden line.
     
  14. trakilaki

    trakilaki Living Forum Legend

    Now they are cheaper ... personally I don't mind having a leg with only 2 gem slots ... as long as the enchantments are good.
     
  15. Zed

    Zed Forum Pro

    Well for speed boots, gloves, etc. they indeed don't really matter, but I absolutely want 4 slots on my wep/wep deco :D
     
  16. trakilaki

    trakilaki Living Forum Legend

    You will have ... not just 4 but 5. You will buy them. :p
    Gem slots are the last thing you should worry when crafting ... you can always add them ... but you can't buy the enchantments.
    Of course I am not talking about items with no slots or just one slot ... but at least two slots are acceptable.
     
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  17. _Baragain_

    _Baragain_ Living Forum Legend

    Agreed. A 0 slot legendary is unacceptably expensive, and a 1 slot legendary is so expensive that it is painful, but a 2 slot legendary I can live with and farm the ander for the slots in about 2-4 weeks.
     
  18. Zed

    Zed Forum Pro

    Yeah I meant *the item should have 4 slots when created*. 3 slots would be the minimum acceptable for me since I'm not a huge farmer lol
     
  19. bLoodZ

    bLoodZ Someday Author

    I want blue axe junks 'cuz I already have the golden lines and i wanna make me a 2%iwd/1(random) exo axe... it was a self answering post anyway. :p
    Then, I guess it's smart to open up slots at least on your golden line ingredients, right?
    Unless you're lucky like I was here with 3-4 slots ingredients:
     
  20. trakilaki

    trakilaki Living Forum Legend

    2%? :D
    That is not a good or golden line ... and it is not even possible :p

    Yes if you have 2 leg ingredients with 2 gem slots you can add 1 slot each ... it is cheaper than adding up to 5 slots later.