Feedback GAME REBALANCING FEEDBACK THREAD

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  1. Viki

    Viki Forum Mogul

  2. alchimista

    alchimista Forum Pro

    DK nerf :

    Assault 5pt talent skill of charge its a brutal nerf for DK pve gameplay, new 5pt talent skill points its useless.

    Motivating banner removed from banner of war its another brutal nerf : +35% attack speed for 5sec it is a irreplaceable skill
     
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  3. Paavelsons

    Paavelsons Regular

    Game rebalancing is basicaly things how we kill and how fast. and how fun it is. but as i see rewards are same phatetic on endgame players.
    even so with new balancing our hard crafted pvp gear is usless. still unclear about that.

    only goal in game is fullmoon and newmoon speedrunes. and then what ? we need bigger goal than leveling fast to 55 and acumulating pw gear maxed in year

    with new wisdom increase drop rate of basic gear green blue pink legs. give us more sets . like instance q10 new set gives by marking net or stun you have chance to use unlimited bird of prey for 5 seconds :D :D :D ok im out.
     
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  4. Moot

    Moot Active Author

    Group talents are still buged and they work in solo even though both the skill description and the patch note states the only work in group, and only if there is a group member on screen with you.
     
  5. Paavelsons

    Paavelsons Regular

    I dont see point of it to see how much damage we get from items crafted.
    i mean i dont understand why is this neccesary..
    better to be if we see damage output overall what we can do if used ess and buffs togheter. or without

    so i want to see overall damageoutput if i hover my mouse over my base damage
    then baragin doesnt need to calculate for invidualy to players :D

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  6. Shiro

    Shiro Padavan

    About this, for solo gameplay, sure.
    If you play togheter with a SM that uses Tesla Turret Group skill, you get 15% more attack speed (so 50%) and for 3x that time (15 seconds).
    But, don't get me wrong, I'm not saying it was an intelligent choice.

    As I said already, my guess is that some of those nerfs were made because of lack of creativity for Group Skills.
     
  7. westernranger

    westernranger Someday Author

    I wanna know, isn't that a mistake? (& 100% attack speed inherits by machine gun turret)
    Or thats mean, that Mechanical turret dmg (or attack rate) depends on SM attack speed?

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    Last edited: May 13, 2018
  8. Dragonnns

    Dragonnns Count Count

    Pretty sure it means that the attack speed is the same as the attack speed of the SM.
     
  9. trakilaki

    trakilaki Living Forum Legend

    It can't be.
    I tried with different attack speeds with over 40% difference and the turret fired same number of 16 shots (over 10 seconds)
     
  10. AmarWilrick

    AmarWilrick Forum Pro

    trakilaki pls , MG turrets still have speed atatck multiplier or not ? and and do you think that SM will have more or less dmg than live server ? ( i tried it in TS i have 20k dmg and 1.35 speed attack, i was hiting max dmg 3-7k and 14/16 k with critical hit (i was with buff CD and critical) in live server with my 35k dmg and and 3.10 speed attack hiting with 45k dmg max. thx for giving your feedback.
     
  11. westernranger

    westernranger Someday Author

    Thats may be anything, but we will know truth only with official answer.
    On TS one of that turrets may be bugged, or thats just patchnotes mistake.
     
  12. lovatic66

    lovatic66 Junior Expert

    45k max? I have the same damage and speed and hit 55k max, xD

    But see if you want to match or pass the damage of the normal server, it will depend exclusively on the critical damage, the speed multiplier no longer counts.

    For example. only Automatic turret


    1) 24k damage, 80% critical impact and 2x critical damage,
    15k-17k shocks ( Very low, super low, on the server
    normal would hit would hit 22k -25k, depending on the
    attack speed)

    2) 25.8k damage, 80% critical impact and 3x critical damage, 25k-29k hits ( It's much better, but not that much)

    So if you want to match or even pass the damage, you should have 4x critical damage and 30k damage, the good thing is that there are better skills than the automatic turret.

    Another point in favor is that there will be many players who reach 5x critical damage, for my part I think I will reach 5x with my dwarf, so I do not worry so much about the damage, but what will affect us most and is the lack of a steam regenerator, unfortunately the dwarves still do not realize it and are only focusing on their damage. :)
     
  13. AmarWilrick

    AmarWilrick Forum Pro

    Depend pn what mod you're playing , you know higher mod u play higher dmg MG turret will make , and yes you're right about steam regenration, it's a big probleme, all classes have skill for that, only dwarf don't have. for my part i found that MG turret deal realy low dmg now, its should be do more because don't forget it's destroyable .
     
  14. lovatic66

    lovatic66 Junior Expert

    Yes, very true, but as you said damage max, I thought you measured it in infernal 3, in fact I think they have removed it from the test server, I didn't notice any more damage when I went up in difficulty. :D

    All dwarves should pay attention to that point, the turrets destroyed is annoying, yes, but you can play with a little practice, but without anything that regenerates steam, on top of that we automatically regenerate 3 times less steam than other breeds, the game alone makes it more complicated for the dwarf.
     
    Last edited: May 15, 2018
  15. AmarWilrick

    AmarWilrick Forum Pro

    what the developpers need to understand that the dwarf is a very slow class, it have only 1 powerfull direct attack(heavy shoot) and it have cooldown ,bomb is a very slow skill,it should be remanied like bomb launcher that explod when hiting target or something like that , if what in TS come to live server like that ,dwarf will be unplayable in solo mode.
     
  16. Paavelsons

    Paavelsons Regular

    Hi removed run speed from wisdom is good way to go. but people still running with 9.9 9.9 runspeed lines on boots. and new players cant have them just 7.66 max runspeed line. make it fair and bring back 9.9 runspeed lines.
     
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  17. Viki

    Viki Forum Mogul

    there are many things unfair. what about sapphires that many veterans still have, me included. new players also have no way to get those. what is with 79% golden lines on weapons? just as impossible for new players...is not only the running speed.
     
  18. Paavelsons

    Paavelsons Regular

    i mean devs can use exuse after cretain time those sapphires getting void/usless so better gem refine it because next relase they are not working anymore.
    how to get things fair 101.

    imagine farming without runspeed. i cry inside already because i want on endgame fastfarm run as fast kill as fast like blubblelbeee :D what ali said lol
    pop
     
  19. semen470

    semen470 Padavan

    and don't forget all the guys who have 5x4% runspeed gems in their boots ;-)
    truly a disadvantage for all newbies.
     
  20. trakilaki

    trakilaki Living Forum Legend

    Don't forget living close to equator gives you advantage of having a warmer sunny days in a year ... which is disadvantage to people living on or close to both poles. :eek:
    You will have to learn to build your toon in proper way like everyone else.
    Turrets are giving you 30 steam back.
    50 Steam is not a high price for a skill that allows you to run around and shoot with your weapon in same time. No other class gains resource back when casting minions. also you can reduce the cost even further ... you will have to use the proper gear like the other classes do.
    Example:
    Ranger's EA costs 66 concentration
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    with some proper tweaking and right gear you can reduce the costs like this
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    On top of it you can increase your stem pool.
     
    Last edited: May 19, 2018
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