Stay or Leave ???

To the dev team,

I want to thank you personally, dev team for releasing such a great update.

Before the R209, I could run solo Q1-M1,2,3 without any problems, any ess...except Grimmag i use purple ess to kill him faster.

After R209 with slightly better stats, I can't even survive the first hordes of mobs + mini-boss at the very beginning.

In the patchnotes you posted(dev team) no change whats-so-ever in mobs stats!!!
If nothing was changed, then how come i can't survive PW Painful like before (R207)?

Here is pic of my stats, I have higher damage, health and atk speed with the R209, everything else had the same values.


I stay if the dev team changes PW to what they were, if nothing changes then i will leave.
I will only resume my gameplay after i read and implemented a patchnote about decreasing PW difficulty.

Have a nice day

 

Dude you are doing it wrong.
You have low everything.
Instead of spending points on useless Urban area talents increase your armor and resistance
Your setup is probably also wrong ... you have low damage on 2H ... you have 30% BS but no BR.

 

Honestly have you read my post or what?

The only wrong thing that i have is travel speed, because it doesn't appear in the patchnotes explaining it to us.

No i don't, i have always run solo Q1 - M1,2,3 Painful mode with lesser damage than today and never have i died nor did i need to use blue ess(only purple for boss). The stats that i have are more than enough for Painful (ask a Mod to post the last solo LB results)

My set up is exactly the same as before R209, but my min-max damage increased around 1500 by points, I also increased my atk speed.
My old set up was 25 points in health and damage, 3 points atk speed and 2 points in travel speed and yet today my toon is stronger than before, but can't survive in the same difficultly mode as before.

Well look at the bright-side, at least i have BR that prevents me from being rude to others.

If you want to claim that R209 didn't nerf us, go ahead...it seems nowadays everybody as a right to an opinion to claim false statements or facts...heck maybe i will start a new religion with an OP God...or better yet, instead of having a flat earth i will claim a square earth.

 

We did not get nerfed. The monsters just got stronger not so much in terms of how fast they die but mostly in terms of how much dmg they do. That basically affects those players who are short ranged or have low def stats and cannot kill the mobs fast enough, so they die. For players that had max wisdom and are ranged, if they dont get hit by grimmag fireball or the special attacks of pw bosses, they will most likely be fine.As for players like you that dont have high gear or gems, it would be wise to go in groups with friends and get group exp along with wisdom till you are strong enough, because you are a dk and dks always had trouble getting strong after new expansion but after that they were becoming godlike. 1 advice would be to go to fatal scaling dungeons in which currently the monsters with enchantments are quite alot and they drop alot of crafting stuff, no materis though. So, what im saying basically is : dont be surprised, you are not the first one that gets hit by updates like these. In the past we were new players too and once we were ready to do fatal runs they were announcing updates and we had to start from scratch again. Most likely we will have hotfixes and improvements, so have patience and dont be hasty, especially since you are new. Older players that have gone through much more in this game and have felt much more dissapointments have more right to whine when they bring unfair stuff to them(not talking about this one specifically).

P.S: Trakilaki is right. 10 points wasted in travelling in hubs and that 3 points in hangmans pride? thats alot of waste that could go to something useful. Also, notice that since most wisdom talents scale with %, that means if you have low base stats and low tier gems, those talents wont benefit you as much as they benefit other players, and that actually goes for most rpg games that have scaling talents/skills. The better your base stats, the more those percentages will benefit you. Cheers

 

They buffed up bosses and mobs in the maps

Take away those points from travel, put some of them in defense, it'll help you survive

 

Am i writing in Chinese or any other language that i'm not aware of?

Please quote me the part that you guys don't understand and i will explain it again in a much easier way for you guys to understand it.

 

you need to understand. even for painful your armor is low. even with damage. your crit and crit dam is 0. what else i miss. monsters hit you still hard again look your armor its weak. i agree that mobs hit too much harder now. solo play is out of this world now.
they intended this relase so people communicate eachother and play togheter to survive. but maiority players dont want group play because people are diffrent here who lives fast jumps in game does some runs and leaves. now its barley impossible to advance in game for new and current low players. .

i feel like devs force hard new people to start craft better defence but they have no idea where to begin.

i can do fatal modes with this killing grimmag with blue. and before this wisdom i killed grimmag on inf1 with blue same fast as now on fatal. this nosense right,,,

with your stats i wouldnt play on pw at all. i would play normal modes and craft decent golden lines and then go for uniques to craft them to. start with 3x lines and use them. then update all gear to 4x lines. EDIT

 

Your damage is way too low for even the Painful mode.
I don't care how you did painful mode before, but I am assuming that it took you hours to clear a map.

First, find two rings and amulet with Critical Damage %
Then equip some Crit Gems into Your weapon adornment and find a weapon adornment with Increased Crit Rate on this.
That would give you a start and increase your damage by a lot.
Keep hunting in Desert Normal map or join into PW groups until you get the above. You are not yet ready to solo Painful mode in PW maps.

 

I find myself in the same position as the original poster, i normally run PW Q1-Q7 with my Spellweaver, since R209 went live I am finding the initial parts of these much more difficult, as a result I will probably be cancelling my subscription

 

Looks like you dont understand a thing because you are new here. It would be wiser to listen to players that are playing and writing on the forums for 3+ years instead of telling us that we dont understand you. We understand you just fine, looks like you dont understand what we are telling you and you seem unable to understand how this game works yet

 

I won't argue things are getting harder but I'd like to point but that things became also too easy past R185.
With R185 they introduced new base stats to all the equipment greatly improving defensive stats.
At that time ppl greatly understimate how big was the impact on the game difficult and I have to say things became too easy to me.
Now they are kinda "completing" that update fixing some bugs (blu elites had bugged dmg and were dealing less dmg than mobs in normal difficult) and re-balancing the dmg of the mobs in general.

I cannot tell you if to keep playing or leave for other games, I can just say the game is getting more challenging.
If you like challenges you should like it more, if you don't, just find something else more in your mood.

 

Ok now i'm 100% sure that i'm writing in other language, merits comes from "how many posts you have" and not facts.

Moving on...

My best time in the last LB was 10 - 11 mins(all 3 maps) purple ess for main boss only and this includes changing my skill points + replacing abilities.

And since only one person understood me, I won't comment any more (it's pointless, if others don't bother to read it)

Hi Mods/Admin, is it possible to obtain a screenshot of the last solo LB - Server - Herdur - Class DK, region Grimmag, I'm probably in the last page or the next one of bronze cup, if not possible can you at least confirm my claims.

Thanks in advance for all or any help.

 

Posts? So, you like to keep the parts that make you look the right one here when you clearly are not. I said that we are experienced players that have also gone that road when we were new and we know all about it, but looks like you dont want to listen to us and instead you are trying to blame the new patch or us that according to you we dont listen. We have told you what to do and you still dont want to listen. If this is too much for you or too much to listen to more experienced players's advices, then you might have to go yes. Geez

 

Hello @GoldenBoy ,
What you are asking for is possible only if you have already taken Screenshots from the previous LB season.
We cannot turn the time back

Cheers.

 

I understand you perfectly. You are upset because they made the PW harder. So now, instead of being able to play a tossed together marginal build you are actually going to have to put in some time to build a proper 2h DK.

I have an alt DK that I just did a quicky in M1 Q1 painful. Now my DK is nothing special but I built it right the first time around. I mean to say, pre 209, no wasteful BS enchantments on my gear (I just kinda figure that since I have zero block I should have zero bs), low but still useful CHR (1:3) and 67% armor. Also, and this is just a personal thingy of mine, I never use wisdom points for attack speed in endgame level toons. (Yes, I have a lot of toons sitting just below a breakpoint but I would rather use those points elsewhere whilst I wait for a piece of gear, rune or craft.) Egro, I do not need to use them in the new wisdom either

Now post 209 my DK stats are all essentially the same except my CHR is now up to 40% and my armor is 70%.

I do have a couple of gripes about 209 and maybe I'll get around to posting them in the feedback thread. But not, "they made the mindless mobs tougher so my mindless build does not work anymore."

Luck be with ye,
Mikey

 

@GoldenBoy If you want to leave...leave. No one's got an arrow to your face. Otherwise...deal with it. This ain't a silver platter.

 

We understand you perfectly fine.

Yes, BP also buffed the monsters, but BP also gave you the ability to buff your defenses higher than they were. We're all telling you to take advantage of that so that you don't die. Take the 3 points out of hangmans and 10 points out of the travel thing and put them into killing things faster or making your armor better.

The game changed a little bit. We all need to change with it.

As an aside, what is going on with your crit being so low? As a 2H dk, I think you would be better off with 1.77 speed (or whereever the speed break is for your base attack) and much higher crit, as there are a number of DK skills that are damage per hit based rather than damage per second based. I would seriously consider taking 7 points off the 2H speed as well, putting some crit onyxes on your adornment and seeing where that takes you.

Also, as trak notes, you have a decent amount of block strength but no block rate - which makes me think you are using gear with block strength (possibly keen's). I would recommend getting a different set if you are going 2H - keens is really valuable as a part of 1H tank setup for people who don't want to pristine craft too much (as you get decent HPOTI without the need for crafting). If you are instead using legendaries with block strength - get different legendaries or uniques that are more valuable for a 2H setup. If you want some block as a 2H, you absolutely have to be using the dragan pauldrons, which you clearly are not. even then, better to not have the block if 2H unless you are trying to keep the ability to switch to 1H during a run.

 

OP is right on one thing... pw got much harder, but the ranged folks didn't get hit as hard by it as DKs...
Pre 209 i farmed inf3 comfortably, but now I get shredded to pieces even in inf2, even though I have gained 15k life, some CR, some CD, BD and AS, andmy toon probably went from a solid 8 to a 9, but the scale we measure on went from 10 to 30. And don't you daare bringing up the armor talent, because it doesn't do anything once you are at 80% armor, and the damn mobs still hit twice as hard as they did before the rls... Oh yeah and they also nerfed the appearance of health orbs...

 

But the defense talent will boost your defences for higher modes, it would still help you

I farmed inf3 maps comfortably as well,without danger of dying

Now if i am careless, i'll easily die
Granted, i am ranged, so it is easier for me
But i think that once you fill the defense section of wisdom, you'll be able to sustain damage even in inf3

Yes, health orbs seem to be rarer and the drop of potion seems to be too
But perhaps they balanced the mobs with the non implemented half of the patch, where there would be craftable potions

Oh we understood your problem, surving and soloing has been made more difficult for you, that is your problem

So Trakilaki and I tried to suggest a new wisdom setting where some points go into defense and you'll have an easier time surviving
Others have suggested another setting

But one thing that should be obvious is that since you have difficulty surviving, you have to make your defenses stronger
Yes you got better statistics, but the mobs got buffed up( and yes, they spoke about that in the patch notes and in other places, they informed the players, and even then, if you bothered to search in the forums, you could have read about this, players were discussing about this months and weeks before the release, especially in the test server section
There was also a page dedicated to the new resistances and defences of the mobs and to the bosses, and they said the bosses would be buffed and they said the mobs would be buffed)

It's your responsibility that you didn't inform yourself about the changes

 

@sargon234 that 5% reduction i can get from maxing the skill won't do any difference on inf3, since their dmg did not increase by 5%, it feels more like 100%.. i just can't decide if it's a bug, or the patchnotes are straight up lies