run & mixture tables for riot event

hello to everyone, I've made some tables to understand how much we have to grind for the riot event
the link to the official event guide:
https://board-en.drakensang.com/threads/riot-of-the-rocketmen-event-guide.79222/

number of run 1,2,3 bars and total progress

tab.1

Difficulty	Pile	crates	prog 1 bar	prog 2 bar	prog 3 bar	total prog	run 1 bar	run 2 bar	run 3 bar	total run	mixture x 1 bar	mixture x 2 bar	mixture x 3 bar	mixture x event	inf fragm	inf fragm	inf fragm	inf fragm
Normal	25	7	1000	7500	15000	50000	19	142	284	944	456	3408	6816	22656	0	0	0	0
painful	50	13	1000	7500	15000	50000	10	74	148	491	240	1776	3552	11784	0	0	0	0
excruciating	75	19	1000	7500	15000	50000	7	50	100	332	168	1200	2400	7968	0	0	0	0
fatal	100	25	1000	7500	15000	50000	5	38	75	250	120	912	1800	6000	0	0	0	0
Infernal 1	150	38	1000	7500	15000	50000	4	25	50	166	96	600	1200	3984	0	0	0	0
Infernal 2	200	50	1000	7500	15000	50000	3	19	38	125	72	456	912	3000	0	0	0	0
Infernal 3	250	63	1000	7500	15000	50000	2	15	30	100	48	360	720	2400	0	0	0	0
Infernal 4	500	125	1000	7500	15000	50000	1	8	15	50	24	192	360	1200	140	1120	2100	7000

number of run in scaling dungeons for mixtures

run per map drop for 1 bar

map drop	4	6	8	10	12	15	20	25	30	40	50
Normal	114	76	57	45,6	38	30,4	22,8	18,24	15,2	11,4	9,12
painful	60	40	30	24	20	16	12	9,6	8	6	4,8
excruciating	42	28	21	16,8	14	11,2	8,4	6,72	5,6	4,2	3,36
fatal	30	20	15	12	10	8	6	4,8	4	3	2,4
Infernal 1	24	16	12	9,6	8	6,4	4,8	3,84	3,2	2,4	1,92
Infernal 2	18	12	9	7,2	6	4,8	3,6	2,88	2,4	1,8	1,44
Infernal 3	12	8	6	4,8	4	3,2	2,4	1,92	1,6	1,2	0,96
Infernal 4	6	4	3	2,4	2	1,6	1,2	0,96	0,8	0,6	0,48

run per map drop for 2 bars

map drop	4	6	8	10	12	15	20	25	30	40	50
Normal	852	568	426	340,8	284	227,2	170,4	136,32	113,6	85,2	68,16
painful	444	296	222	177,6	148	118,4	88,8	71,04	59,2	44,4	35,52
excruciating	300	200	150	120	100	80	60	48	40	30	24
fatal	228	152	114	91,2	76	60,8	45,6	36,48	30,4	22,8	18,24
Infernal 1	150	100	75	60	50	40	30	24	20	15	12
Infernal 2	114	76	57	45,6	38	30,4	22,8	18,24	15,2	11,4	9,12
Infernal 3	90	60	45	36	30	24	18	14,4	12	9	7,2
Infernal 4	48	32	24	19,2	16	12,8	9,6	7,68	6,4	4,8	3,84

run per map drop for 3 bars

map drop	4	6	8	10	12	15	20	25	30	40	50
Normal	1704	1136	852	681,6	568	454,4	340,8	272,64	227,2	170,4	136,32
painful	888	592	444	355,2	296	236,8	177,6	142,08	118,4	88,8	71,04
excruciating	600	400	300	240	200	160	120	96	80	60	48
fatal	450	300	225	180	150	120	90	72	60	45	36
Infernal 1	300	200	150	120	100	80	60	48	40	30	24
Infernal 2	228	152	114	91,2	76	60,8	45,6	36,48	30,4	22,8	18,24
Infernal 3	180	120	90	72	60	48	36	28,8	24	18	14,4
Infernal 4	90	60	45	36	30	24	18	14,4	12	9	7,2

run per map drop for total progress

map drop	4	6	8	10	12	15	20	25	30	40	50
Normal	5664	3776	2832	2265,6	1888	1510,4	1132,8	906,24	755,2	566,4	453,12
painful	2946	1964	1473	1178,4	982	785,6	589,2	471,36	392,8	294,6	235,68
excruciating	1992	1328	996	796,8	664	531,2	398,4	318,72	265,6	199,2	159,36
fatal	1500	1000	750	600	500	400	300	240	200	150	120
Infernal 1	996	664	498	398,4	332	265,6	199,2	159,36	132,8	99,6	79,68
Infernal 2	750	500	375	300	250	200	150	120	100	75	60
Infernal 3	600	400	300	240	200	160	120	96	80	60	48
Infernal 4	300	200	150	120	100	80	60	48	40	30	24

in the first row there are the hypothetical drops of mixtures per map, and for each difficulty the tables say how many runs must be done to collect the number of mixtures needed (posted in tab. 1).
N.B.: where there are decimals, the numbers must be rounded to the next integer.
so everyone can see the number of runs needed and decide what to do in this event.


number of run 1,2,3 bars and total progress with attire (+50% drop stack size progress)

tab.2

Difficulty	Pile	crates	prog 1 bar	prog 2 bar	prog 3 bar	total prog	run 1 bar	run 2 bar	run 3 bar	total run	mixture x 1 bar	mixture x 2 bar	mixture x 3 bar	mixture x event	inf fragm	inf fragm	inf fragm	inf fragm
Normal	38	11	1000	7500	15000	50000	13	92	183	610	312	2208	4392	14640	0	0	0	0
painful	75	20	1000	7500	15000	50000	7	49	97	323	168	1176	2328	7752	0	0	0	0
excruciating	113	29	1000	7500	15000	50000	5	33	66	219	120	792	1584	5256	0	0	0	0
fatal	150	38	1000	7500	15000	50000	4	25	50	166	96	600	1200	3984	0	0	0	0
Infernal 1	225	57	1000	7500	15000	50000	3	17	34	111	72	408	816	2664	0	0	0	0
Infernal 2	300	75	1000	7500	15000	50000	2	13	25	84	48	312	600	2016	0	0	0	0
Infernal 3	375	95	1000	7500	15000	50000	2	10	20	67	48	240	480	1608	0	0	0	0
Infernal 4	750	188	1000	7500	15000	50000	1	5	10	34	24	120	240	816	140	700	1400	4760

number of run in scaling dungeons for mixtures

run per map drop for 1 bar

map drop	4	6	8	10	12	15	20	25	30	40	50
Normal	78	52	39	31,2	26	20,8	15,6	12,48	10,4	7,8	6,24
painful	42	28	21	16,8	14	11,2	8,4	6,72	5,6	4,2	3,36
excruciating	30	20	15	12	10	8	6	4,8	4	3	2,4
fatal	24	16	12	9,6	8	6,4	4,8	3,84	3,2	2,4	1,92
Infernal 1	18	12	9	7,2	6	4,8	3,6	2,88	2,4	1,8	1,44
Infernal 2	12	8	6	4,8	4	3,2	2,4	1,92	1,6	1,2	0,96
Infernal 3	12	8	6	4,8	4	3,2	2,4	1,92	1,6	1,2	0,96
Infernal 4	6	4	3	2,4	2	1,6	1,2	0,96	0,8	0,6	0,48

run per map drop for 2 bar

map drop	4	6	8	10	12	15	20	25	30	40	50
Normal	552	368	276	220,8	184	147,2	110,4	88,32	73,6	55,2	44,16
painful	294	196	147	117,6	98	78,4	58,8	47,04	39,2	29,4	23,52
excruciating	198	132	99	79,2	66	52,8	39,6	31,68	26,4	19,8	15,84
fatal	150	100	75	60	50	40	30	24	20	15	12
Infernal 1	102	68	51	40,8	34	27,2	20,4	16,32	13,6	10,2	8,16
Infernal 2	78	52	39	31,2	26	20,8	15,6	12,48	10,4	7,8	6,24
Infernal 3	60	40	30	24	20	16	12	9,6	8	6	4,8
Infernal 4	30	20	15	12	10	8	6	4,8	4	3	2,4

run per map drop for 3 bar

map drop	4	6	8	10	12	15	20	25	30	40	50
Normal	1098	732	549	439,2	366	292,8	219,6	175,68	146,4	109,8	87,84
painful	582	388	291	232,8	194	155,2	116,4	93,12	77,6	58,2	46,56
excruciating	396	264	198	158,4	132	105,6	79,2	63,36	52,8	39,6	31,68
fatal	300	200	150	120	100	80	60	48	40	30	24
Infernal 1	204	136	102	81,6	68	54,4	40,8	32,64	27,2	20,4	16,32
Infernal 2	150	100	75	60	50	40	30	24	20	15	12
Infernal 3	120	80	60	48	40	32	24	19,2	16	12	9,6
Infernal 4	60	40	30	24	20	16	12	9,6	8	6	4,8

run per map drop for total progress

map drop	4	6	8	10	12	15	20	25	30	40	50
Normal	3660	2440	1830	1464	1220	976	732	585,6	488	366	292,8
painful	1938	1292	969	775,2	646	516,8	387,6	310,08	258,4	193,8	155,04
excruciating	1314	876	657	525,6	438	350,4	262,8	210,24	175,2	131,4	105,12
fatal	996	664	498	398,4	332	265,6	199,2	159,36	132,8	99,6	79,68
Infernal 1	666	444	333	266,4	222	177,6	133,2	106,56	88,8	66,6	53,28
Infernal 2	504	336	252	201,6	168	134,4	100,8	80,64	67,2	50,4	40,32
Infernal 3	402	268	201	160,8	134	107,2	80,4	64,32	53,6	40,2	32,16
Infernal 4	204	136	102	81,6	68	54,4	40,8	32,64	27,2	20,4	16,32

in the first row there are the hypothetical drops of mixtures per map, and for each difficulty the tables say how many runs must be done to collect the number of mixtures needed (posted in tab. 2), taking into account that, with the attire, the number of runs decreases by 1/3.
as always numbers round to the next integer.
p.s. if there are mistakes, please report it and I will try to correct it.
thanks for your attention.

from what I see in TS, I would like to see this changes in the event:
1) the rocketmen must spawn immediatly in the scaling dungeons, and not with a delay.
2) if one player is not able to do inf4, the number of runs will be very high, so it will be better to increase the mixture drop in the map, or lower the number of mixtures needed for the entrance, or both (better).
3) the rocketmen killed in the scaling dungeons must be counted for the repeateble quest (1000 progress).

 

Because i cant understand anything from info post about the event...how much progress i will get per run, solo on inf1?

 

you get progress from the pile and the four crates (if not destroyed by the bombs) at the center of prof. Jullov's laboratory.
inf1
pile: 150 progress
crates: 38 progress x 4 crates = 152 progress
total progress per run = 302
n.b. in group or in solo the progress is always the same (at the moment, I don't know if something will change on live server).

 

Hi @gbit i don't know if you remeber there's a mission where you are rewarded with 1000 of progres killing 20 machines oppening 20 crates and killing like 4500 enemies if i'm not wrong? did you take it in your tables too?

About the tables i don't understand that on the first row "number of run for mixtures" then i don't understand the whole table. it suppose this mixtures only appear in some maps, don't they? then what does the first row mean with "4, 6.."

Thanks for your time with those tables

 

The repeatable quest need 2500 kill, if I remember well, and no, I haven't taken the quest reward in consideration, because the rocketman stop spawning when you killed the last machine... So you will finish the quest and take the 1000 progress, but I think not so many times.
The run will be effectively less than the number in the tables, but the order will be the same ( eg. Instead of 200, you make 180 run).
You find the mixtures in scaling dungeons: In the tables you find how many runs you have to do to collect enough mixtures to finish 1,2,3 bars and the entire event IF in the map the mixture drop is 4, 6, 8, 10...ecc..(for all difficulty).
I hope now it is more clear what I have done...

 

It looks like, as always, the Art Department did an at-least-ok (in this case, quite decent) job and the grind is crazy anyways.

Maybe I'm wrong, but... it feels like grindier than sewers.

 

The mechanics are the same but with riot event we have less time then sewers...I hope they increase the mixture drop, or only players that can do inf4 will be able to finish the event.

 

brilliant stuff as always. One thing that I wonder. Those mixtures drop in scaling dungeons... I was in believe that you cannot do those on inf4 level(non pw dungeons only).

 

obviously....but the inf4 label refers to the mod you enter in the lab to make progress .
an example, to be more clear: you want to do the event in inf4.
from tab. 1 you can see that you need 50 run (repeatable quest not counted).
and now how many run you have to do in scaling dungeons collecting mixtures?
other tables are for this; given the mixture drop in the map (4,6,8,10...) and the difficulty you want to perform, the table gives you the number of runs needed to collect enough mixtures for the entrance in the lab (at every difficulty you want, also inf4).
let's say the mixture drop is 12 and you want to go in inf4 for the progress, so from the table you can see that you need 100 run in scaling dungeons to collect the mixtures that allow you to enter in the prof. Jullov's Lab enough times to make progress and finish the event.
I hope is more clear now; I'm sorry, perhaps I would have explained better how to read the table. I apologize

 

So, let's say I want to do the event by entering Jullov's lab in fatal only and let's say I'm going to ignore the last progress bar since it's utterly insane.
I need 72 runs in scaling dungeons on average, provided that the average mixture drop is 25 (I'm being optimistic), and 75 runs in the lab?

Idk, I've just done about 40 runs in the winter challenge #3 and I'm already so fed up with it :/ And it seems like nothing compared to this.

 

exactly
so you can made your consideration and decide what to do.
if it was 25 mixture drop in map it will be good...i fear the worst; in the TS, if I remember well, drop was 7/8 per run.
I've suggested a major increase in drop not because I want to finish the event, but because at the end of the last bar you have, as reward, not a resource, but the scroll, that permit the access to new CONTENT.
this don't seem right to me: if you are strong then is normal that you collect more and better resources than me, a weak player (eg. DTU), but isn't normal that a lot of players will be taken away from new map, new quests, a new storyline...in few words, new content.

 

Yeah, that's right If the scroll has to be a reward in this event, it should not be at the very end. The end of bar 2 could be ok.

Btw. Bood job making all those charts (It's great but the numbers are depressing.)

 

In this event I think that we will touch new records of grinding, (not me, I haven't so much time to play); I'll try for the jewel but I'm not sure at all...I tried to find a way to play smarter (cit. Trakilaki), but I didn't succeed.

 

It would be ok that some content is available in the first place only to those who grind a lot or something like that... it would be ok, as long as we had a lot of playable content anyways... but it is not ok because we lack content.

Well... probably the event is too mindlessly simple to find any smart way to play it... at least you can't find anything smarter than trying to farm some resources you'd need anyways in the SND while you're farming for the mixtures.

 

Oh yeah, it's a price for not having difficulty restrictions that caused quite a backlash recently.
I'm not sure if we can play this game smart. You can experiment with difficulties, but that's it. I guess it's more about the decision what you really need or want, and what you are ok with not getting. In this case, I'm already almost fine with not getting the jewel, and the scroll - well the scroll is out of reach for me.

Maybe this is the point. The scroll is at the end of the bar that most people will have to pay for by purchasing the Rocket attire. If the scroll is like a door to some kind of new content, then paying for the attire is, in a way, paying for the new content.

 

I agree with you...but purchase the attire don't reduce the grinding for mixtures...and yes, more than someone will pay for the new content.
More I see another problem: a lot of people will miss the new content, so they will complain...and probably we will find in dragan event another chance to reach the scroll, perhaps in a less hard way; then we'll see those who have paid to take the scroll in riot event what have to say about...

 

This "event" is so simple it hurts intelligence.
That is why I haven't touched the Wiki article at all (apart from farming coins and progress with winter event and challenges).
What is there to be explained other than "click click click until you mouse breaks down"?
That is why they made the progress available for purchasing at the shop. I already purchased it entirely on TS ... and I will do it again since it has been reset ... and I will get another Jewel

I found one way at least in the farming part.
I will share it on Wiki.
BTW ... since I have no intention to waste my time too much with this "event" and do calculations, could I use your tables on Wiki?

 

I made the tables for sharing with everyone, of course you can use them

 

Add progress from the RE quest every 5th run + Attires are working with quests too.
That is 1500 progress every 5th run from the RE quest only.

 

number of run 3 bars and total progress + RE quest (1000 progress) every 5th run

Difficulty	Pile	crates	prog 1 bar	prog 2 bar	prog 3 bar	total prog	run 3 bar	total run	mixture x 3 bar	mixture x event	inf fragm	inf fragm
Normal	25	7	1000	7500	15000	50000	60	200	1440	4800	0	0
painful	50	13	1000	7500	15000	50000	50	167	1200	4008	0	0
excruciating	75	19	1000	7500	15000	50000	45	332	1080	7968	0	0
fatal	100	25	1000	7500	15000	50000	40	145	960	3480	0	0
Infernal 1	150	38	1000	7500	15000	50000	30	166	720	3984	0	0
Infernal 2	200	50	1000	7500	15000	50000	25	100	600	2400	0	0
Infernal 3	250	63	1000	7500	15000	50000	23	72	552	1728	0	0
Infernal 4	500	125	1000	7500	15000	50000	12	42	288	1008	1680	5880

run per map drop for 3 bar

map drop	4	6	8	10	12	15	20	25	30	40	50
Normal	360	240	180	144	120	96	72	57,6	48	36	28,8
painful	300	200	150	120	100	80	60	48	40	30	24
excruciating	270	180	135	108	90	72	54	43,2	36	27	21,6
fatal	240	160	120	96	80	64	48	38,4	32	24	19,2
Infernal 1	180	120	90	72	60	48	36	28,8	24	18	14,4
Infernal 2	150	100	75	60	50	40	30	24	20	15	12
Infernal 3	138	92	69	55,2	46	36,8	27,6	22,08	18,4	13,8	11,04
Infernal 4	72	48	36	28,8	24	19,2	14,4	11,52	9,6	7,2	5,76

run per map drop for total progress

map drop	4	6	8	10	12	15	20	25	30	40	50
Normal	1200	800	600	480	400	320	240	192	160	120	96
painful	1002	668	501	400,8	334	267,2	200,4	160,32	133,6	100,2	80,16
excruciating	1992	1328	996	796,8	664	531,2	398,4	318,72	265,6	199,2	159,36
fatal	870	580	435	348	290	232	174	139,2	116	87	69,6
Infernal 1	996	664	498	398,4	332	265,6	199,2	159,36	132,8	99,6	79,68
Infernal 2	600	400	300	240	200	160	120	96	80	60	48
Infernal 3	432	288	216	172,8	144	115,2	86,4	69,12	57,6	43,2	34,56
Infernal 4	252	168	126	100,8	84	67,2	50,4	40,32	33,6	25,2	20,16

number of run 3 bars and total progress with attire + RE quest (1500 progress) every 5th run

Difficulty	Pile	crates	prog 1 bar	prog 2 bar	prog 3 bar	total prog	run 3 bar	total run	mixture x 3 bar	mixture x event	inf fragm	inf fragm
Normal	38	11	1000	7500	15000	50000	40	135	960	3240	0	0
painful	75	20	1000	7500	15000	50000	35	110	840	2640	0	0
excruciating	113	29	1000	7500	15000	50000	30	95	720	2280	0	0
fatal	150	38	1000	7500	15000	50000	25	85	600	2040	0	0
Infernal 1	225	57	1000	7500	15000	50000	20	68	480	1632	0	0
Infernal 2	300	75	1000	7500	15000	50000	18	56	432	1344	0	0
Infernal 3	375	95	1000	7500	15000	50000	15	49	360	1176	0	0
Infernal 4	750	188	1000	7500	15000	50000	9	29	216	696	1260	4060

run per map drop for 3 bar

map drop	4	6	8	10	12	15	20	25	30	40	50
Normal	240	160	120	96	80	64	48	38,4	32	24	19,2
painful	210	140	105	84	70	56	42	33,6	28	21	16,8
excruciating	180	120	90	72	60	48	36	28,8	24	18	14,4
fatal	150	100	75	60	50	40	30	24	20	15	12
Infernal 1	120	80	60	48	40	32	24	19,2	16	12	9,6
Infernal 2	108	72	54	43,2	36	28,8	21,6	17,28	14,4	10,8	8,64
Infernal 3	90	60	45	36	30	24	18	14,4	12	9	7,2
Infernal 4	54	36	27	21,6	18	14,4	10,8	8,64	7,2	5,4	4,32

run per map drop for total progress

map drop	4	6	8	10	12	15	20	25	30	40	50
Normal	810	540	405	324	270	216	162	129,6	108	81	64,8
painful	660	440	330	264	220	176	132	105,6	88	66	52,8
excruciating	570	380	285	228	190	152	114	91,2	76	57	45,6
fatal	510	340	255	204	170	136	102	81,6	68	51	40,8
Infernal 1	408	272	204	163,2	136	108,8	81,6	65,28	54,4	40,8	32,64
Infernal 2	336	224	168	134,4	112	89,6	67,2	53,76	44,8	33,6	26,88
Infernal 3	294	196	147	117,6	98	78,4	58,8	47,04	39,2	29,4	23,52
Infernal 4	174	116	87	69,6	58	46,4	34,8	27,84	23,2	17,4	13,92

N.B. for lower difficulties is always better to finish the RE quest, for higher difficulties sometimes you need only a couple of runs to reach the target, so the number of run isn't always a multiple of five.
please someone check this calcs because I did it quickly (I think they are right, but a mistake is always possible).