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  1. _Static_

    _Static_ Forum Apprentice


    My name is Static, and I don't post in the forum. I am one of the strongest DKs on Agathon, and guild master of one of the strongest guilds on Agathon as well. It troubles me that I do not see more posts regarding the subject I am about to bring up. Previous attempts to voice my opinions have been removed from the forums due to my lack of knowledge of the guildlines here.

    My question for the CMs. Why, after months of waiting, has nothing been done to fix the known pvp bug? I have only gotten 3 5v5 battles in the last 3 months. 3v3 and 6v6 are also nearly impossible to get. I have sent several tickets to support, and they have been as helpful as they can be, but the truth is, they have no power to do anything. Is it the drakensang team that is failing to rectify this situation?

    I can not speak for any other server, but here on Agathon there are a handful of the best pvp players on the server who have all been passed in overall honor points due to this bug. It is unacceptable. The team has known of this bug for 8 months, and they HAVE fixed some peoples accounts who had this exact bug. Several top players have confirmed this for me. Fact.

    Why has my pvp not been fixed? Why has there been no ETA on the fix for this bug? Why has some peoples accounts been fixed, and others have not?

    These are my questions to you. I find it hard to believe that you know about this bug, and yet I am continually punished for farming myself to the level of strength I have achieved. I am beyond frustrated that everyone in my guild can group together and go pvp, but the strongest of us are not permitted to participate.

    When will this stop?

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  2. cdeepal

    cdeepal Forum Baron

    I think it is the winning bug (or algorithm). In my experience/opinion, if you win too many matches consecutively, you will stop getting any more matches. The more you win, the less your chances to get another match.
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  3. _Static_

    _Static_ Forum Apprentice

    It is a bug. My spellweaver has nearly identical win/loss and kill/death ratio as my dk. Spellweaver gets instant battles. Dk gets nothing. Even if that were the case, I can not get the battles to lose them in order to get more battles. Therefore, this is a bug. It completely ruins my game experience. And it needs fixed.
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  4. cdeepal

    cdeepal Forum Baron

    Who said it is the win/loss ratio?
    It is the consecutive wins and against who is what counts. Not your old win/loss ratio.
    Think of it as a ladder system.
    And the game system tracks this independently for different types of PvP matches.
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  5. Novadude

    Novadude Commander of the Forum

    My recommendation is to pick one of the moon events to do. I don't do the New Moon event on either of my toons, and only do full moon and essence event for the drakens. Otherwise, farm the pws for glyphs and gear and do events that don't need realm frags.
  6. Fugnuts

    Fugnuts Forum Master

    Saw the new uniques for each class from the gnob.Apparently the warriors get a shield that wont allow your fury to decrease and mages get yet another item with lower mana cost of meteor.After seeing this its safe to assume that none of the devs play the mage class since they release 1 useless item after another for mage class.

    1.When are you going to tweak the 6k weapon for mages? I havent seen any mage using that because thats how great that weapon is lol.If you keep on releasing items that decrease the timer for meteor and other skills like that, skills that are rarely used, then you will keep releasing items that no one will buy (the 6k weapon for mage proves what i said).Mages use fireball and ice sphere nowadays.Just a hint.

    2.Also what does that "You rage wont consume anymore" message in the shield's description for warrior means exactly?I hope you dont mean that skills wont use rage anymore because that would be too op.I know that if you have full rage and you get idle for 5 seconds or so, your rage bar starts to go down.I guess that shield will prevent this from happening .You should point that out because many players are confused right now lol.Some say that your rage wont go down no matter how many skills and what skills you use, and some say that your rage wont decrease when going idle for 5-6 sec..

    3.As for the new shield for mages, if that removes the cost for meteor by 50 mana, and we use the skill that also removes the cost by 50 mana, then it will mean that meteor will require 0 mana to be fired.Was this intented?I doubt that many mages will decide to change the 2hand style and go for shield just because of that ability.

    4.Also ive noticed that you introduced some 3500 draken packs which have the chance to drop 1 of the dragonache set items.Do you plan on removing the option to buy each of the dragonache items with 4k drakens and only keep that 3500 draken pack?
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  7. fab

    fab Advanced

    Go and play the weak and stupid mage before you comment about them, dks heal without having to kill anything and immune is ridiculous and that makes mages skills useless.
    Simply waste of time posting and reading this type of nonsensical post !
  8. Dylannn

    Dylannn Board Analyst

    But you didn't read it.
  9. Fugnuts

    Fugnuts Forum Master

    @fab - I apologise for my poor english, its not the main language in my country, but apparently you haven't read or understood what i wrote either because of my english or because you were not paying enough attention at my comment.
  10. AmerickaNindza

    AmerickaNindza Junior Expert

    anywhere exist pricing list? from Ts maybe?
  11. trakilaki

    trakilaki Living Forum Legend

    At my HDD ... waiting for me to find spare time and upload it at Wiki XD
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  12. trakilaki

    trakilaki Living Forum Legend

    He never reads.
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  13. Chainsaw1

    Chainsaw1 Forum Greenhorn

    o_O ty for reply, glad there is moves to make guilds bigger part of game :)
  14. CM Haruki

    CM Haruki Community Team Team Drakensang Online

    Hey there everyone,

    I hope the weekend was productive and nice. Here we go with some CM answers to accompany your coffee/energetic drink of choice. Buckle up!

    @ Statement about the Crafting system: we are aiming to release 163 with this one and we are committed to it. We wanna get the designer in charge to write a sort of "executive statement" of the main features that will the design will comprise. While the structure of the design will be the one we have deviced for it, we definitely wanna get some community feedback going to make the final tuning and balancing as good as it can get.

    Hey there,

    I get your discontent point but we also have some measures against "discount farming" in place that ensure the kind of abuses you are mentioning are not recurring. I am also sure the payment team keeps on investigating about this since it plays against their interests and we wanna have the fairest experience possible, both for the players and us.

    Hey there,

    the pointless contests on Facebook, as you mention it, are created by the CMs which, on the other hand, are constantly reporting your troubles across servers or other issues to the team, who are in fact the ones who investigate and apply changes/fixes after identifying where the issue is. The appearance of one does not invalidate the other. Now, we raised awareness about the issues with Error 23 and similar issues in Tegan and we would be very thankful if you can send a message to Support whenever you encounter one of these issues, by following these guidelines. That'd be awesome.

    One is running until the 9th (URAWESOME) and we are preparing more thingies for this week.
    Stay tuned for those!

    Hey there,

    please do not be so populist - it certainly does not fit the discourse of the Great Trakilaki.
    Western dirt-bags? Such intensity.

    We did not offer them a Bot system but the Auto-play system. Yeah, both features are based in the same mechanism of farming and auto-picking while the user is not in front of the computer but the genesis of both come from different cultures and standards - also, one of them comes directly from the official developing side while the other does not.

    If you wanna reach an Asiatic audience it's pretty much central that you need to implement this in place. On the other hand, I have yet to see a huge cry of this community to get the Auto-play feature. Which I have not seen. You will agree with me, I hope, that there are far more important and interesting features for you guys as a cultural reality of players and I'd certainly favor them above an auto-play opportunity at this point. You comment on us banning the "botters" while at the same time I guess you would be crying in agony if we had decided not to ban them. Who knows. The nooks of memory are impregnable.

    And no, we are not adding the opportunity to legally selling and trading accounts.
    Actually I quite enjoy reporting selling accounts groups on Facebook in the early morning - smells like victory.

    Hey there,

    as we have already said, there are other bonus codes coming along the way. We keep on monitoring, we keep on stabilizing. The current situation is far from where we want this to be - believe me, this is a source of frustration for us alike. We do not watch you burn in the abyss of Error 23 and prepare our ratio of popcorns. Technical stability is, at the moment, hard-core high in the list of priorities of the team.

    It's there. Maybe you have not met some of the requirements for the Spirit Stones to appear (they do so next to the fallen member of the group). You basically will need to:
    • Be in a group with the fallen player
    • Have Spirit Stones in your inventory - not in your locker
    • To be at least 20 (virtual) meters close to the fallen player - meaning, you may need to get closer to him/her

    Hey there,

    1. No ETA for the removal of potions. Again, they are in the roadmap but not with a final date yet.
    2. All details about Crafting - we will release more information about this renewed version of crafting a little bit more in the future. Stay tuned to the forums for this!

    Hey there,

    your complains are heard and we are sending them over to the team.

    Hey there mister,

    1. We do not have any plans to tweak just yet that weapon, no.
    2. The tooltip/description is a little bit misleading, yes, since it seems as if the buff would enable a full usage of your skills without any rage. But this is not how it will work and the tooltip will be changed. The shield modifier is just about disabling the automatically rage degeneration.
    3. Yes, it's intended.
    4. We will always offer the possibility of just going for a secure way of obtaining an item as opposed to a more random way of getting to it, for a cheap price but with the inherent risk of not obtaining it as well - in the end it's your choice.


    This will be all for today - jumping in again tomorrow!!

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  15. Troneck86

    Troneck86 Forum Great Master

    A lot of players are not asking for botting to be official because your company went on a witch hunt and banned all of those who thought it was a good idea to take away the monotony that is farming so that they can do the things they enjoy in-game when they come back to their PC.

    The fact that a large audience on the other side of the world wants it and your company renigged on the vow that all botters would be banned with impunity is all the evidence needed to prove money talks and everything else can be pushed back. That is the motto for this game.
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  16. Novadude

    Novadude Commander of the Forum

    Well, my understanding so far is that the no-botting and autoplay servers are separate. If that is the case, I don't care very much what happens in the auto-play server. If a special autoplay server enhances Bigpoints revenue and allows for more game content to be created, thats fine by me.
  17. Rhysingstar

    Rhysingstar Forum Ambassador

    The difference is that when DSO creates a cheat it is okay, if a 3rd party creates a cheat it is not. It's their game and they can ruin it if they want to.

    For the longest time I've tried to convince myself that the dev's simply didn't know what they were doing, but with the last 7 releases I'm leaning more towards the fact that they are doing these things on purpose to force players to either spend or quit.

    I certainly wouldn't mind paying if there were any good reason. What they seem to be doing is charging you to finish events and survive the pw bosses. Do they make the drops better? Of course not. Do they make it interesting? Of course not.

    There are simply too many good games out there and more coming to put up with all the server issues, complete disregard for player feedback, bugs, bad drops, and the moronic so called improvements they keep piling onto us.

    It isn't that they couldn't make DSO the best game out there, they simply choose not to.
  18. Armando

    Armando Forum Connoisseur

    Thanks for the information (as well as for all the other you provided).

    As I (still) did not see it immediately (was looking next to the corpse), here's a screenshot:

    I really like the implementation actually, because you can decide precisely whom you want to revive, it's 1-click and you don't have to find the corpse for it. Nice job!
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  19. EvelynJ

    EvelynJ Forum Apprentice

    I was just about to the Dragonache set. I was hoping you could elaborate. On the Test server the 'lucky packages' state that you WILL get ONE of the items in the package, however you've said here there's a chance of 'not obtaining it'. Can you clarify what you mean? Will the lucky package mean you could end up with no unique at all? Also the test server doesn't contain the individual Dragonache set pieces right now. Will this change when it comes to the live server? Otherwise I will buy the set in a few days with my map to Gnob's cave.

  20. Novadude

    Novadude Commander of the Forum

    It is not a cheat if DSO creates it and permits it. And its not unfair if the rules are intended to enforced more or less evenly across the server. (Leaving aside any as applied issues, which are always in play)

    As long as they keep the autoplay feature on this other server and keep banning botters on the server I play on, I'm fine. Two different but related games, whatever. No different than Balor server being always pvp and the rest being optional.

    Or another analogy - theres no big deal in having slightly different versions of basketball rules (FIBA, NBA, NCAA, etc).
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