Crafting 2.0 Results

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  1. Saved_81

    Saved_81 Forum Master

    I should express myself in a better way.
    You did nothing wrong and you shouldn't have many regrets.
    It wouldn't have made any difference if you had transferred those stats on new items with new base stats.

    They removed RAW STATS transferred onto new items (for instance CHR, ID, HP, DEF, RES).

    On the test server they "deleted" those kind of enchantment on trasferred items.

    From what I've seen those were the enchantments that are affected by the "bug" mentioned by Demon and probably, all we are talking about, is the result of a bad way to "fix" it.
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  2. sebastian_fl

    sebastian_fl Count Count

    What do you mean by removed?) The 4x crit ring became 0x lines ring?

    What did they do to relative values?

    Let's say, a person crafted his lvl50 4x 10% speed boots with q1 boots lvl55. Or lvl50 4x crit dmg rings with lvl55 mortis ring. What happened to those crafted uniques?
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  3. thebearreturns

    thebearreturns Exceptional Talent

    So if i've my 227% weap dmg and 1600 crit hammer, do i Will be punished when crafting into a unique losing that crit line? ... I would like to know WHY... If i've played A LOT to crafting that hammer and other ítems...
  4. Saved_81

    Saved_81 Forum Master

    First of all, I have to tell you I haven't tested by myself.
    What I'm telling you is written on the DE forum.

    They removed the items crafted with lvl 50 items but it's clearly a move done on the test server because on the test server they can simply "delete" items without asking anything to anyone.

    Can't tell you but if I'm guessing correctly they will do nothing as they aren't affected by the bug listed.

    Can't know, the reported post said they deleted the items, but the deleted items also containted "bugged" enchantments.

    If I can do my guesses, they don't want to let you transfer "fixed/raw" stats onto new uniques because this would be a counter-intuitive system (new players would have to farm pre-lvl 50 maps to acquire those enchantments).
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  5. sebastian_fl

    sebastian_fl Count Count

    Well, it's kind of a whole different story. I didn't plan to use a single absolute line myself anywhere. Not in weapon, not in rings even though I have 4x crit rings and other stuff. But it is still a major upset for most of the players. And no comments on the way they communicate. Not a single word after the release, and then threatening 'bug abusers' through the mods, lovely.

    I do, however, have 1 absolute line, the dmg, on my crafted weapon. I recrafted the old one into lvl52 and then into bear's staff. The line isn't gold and I didn't want absolute value at all, but it is what it is. So if I understand you right, they will rollback my weapon craft? I'm curious how would they trace it back through 2 crafts, leg2leg and leg2unique. Would they give all the ingredients back?

    And thx for answers, btw.
  6. trakilaki

    trakilaki Living Forum Legend

    Hey hey ... first ... lets stop the false rumors.
    My crafted items are the same as they were before this "patch".
    [​IMG] [​IMG]

    I stand behind all my words from this post ...
    to my reasoning ... this is not a bug:

    BUT they claim it is a bug because according to them ... the stats should not scale up when transferring to unique item.
    So what they did? They made changes ... so the stats would be exact copy from the transferred item.


    ^ So as you can see you can use lower level items. However that makes no sense to me ... who in the right mind would use them for crafting ...except in the case of relative enchantments. But why items lower than level 50 would be included in the crafting??? This new crafting is li,ited only to the cap level players ... so just like I said in the quote above ... they should limit the crafting to level 50+ items ONLY ... and remove the cores from the shop for lower level players.
    It is even said in the tooltip
    So why make it available for -50?

    As I said stats are the same at TS .... and that is the problem. Those players who already crafted items are in eternal advantage ... and no one will ever catch up with them. And not just those who have not crafted yet ... but the entire ranger class is hit AGAIN. Because no one could/can transfer longbows into unique items.
    And of course ... I am sure they will nerf all the already crafted items ... so there is a another issue :D
    If those players knew they are going to get lesser stats ... maybe they would not want to craft them at all.

    However ... this is not ending here ... the original crafting (non-unique items craft) has been changed.
    I will explain later ... I have a huge amount of screens prepared ...


    Which is inaccurrate


    I am coming from TS ... there is nothing deleted there. The only change is like I said ^ up in this post
    Last edited: Mar 27, 2017
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  7. Saved_81

    Saved_81 Forum Master

    I don't know what the guy that posted it was drinking and I don't know if I'm allowed to link the post but it's there.

    Anyway it was clearly stated that everything was related to the "bugged" enchantments and nothing else so no harms to anyone.

    This doesn't mean, as the mods clearly stated, that BP can't/won't do a rollback of those items.
  8. sebastian_fl

    sebastian_fl Count Count

    So, should I transfer my 4x crit ring into t4 bear now? I have almost everything ready. Would they keep the scaled numbers?) This all makes zero sense to me. We should guess what is intended and what isnt. And then some who guessed right benefit...
  9. trakilaki

    trakilaki Living Forum Legend

    Do what you want man ... I don't know.
    By the look of the things ... the chances those crafted items to stay intact are higher than to be nerfed down or changed.
    The only loser in this stupid game is trakilaki ... as usual ...
    While all players were farming ... trakilaki was educating people and creating articles ... which is BP's job not his.
    Now I have 0 crafted items and almost no ingredients.
    Enough is enough!!!!
  10. SKyWiZ3R!

    SKyWiZ3R! Forum Greenhorn

    "We will perform maintenance on 28.03.17 to resolve the server issues which made it necessary for us to restart the servers over the last few days.

    Additionally, the enchantment transferring system will receive a patch to remove some unintended results with enchantment scaling."

    So what's happening then? :confused:
  11. sebastian_fl

    sebastian_fl Count Count

    Sorry to hear man. What they do and the way they do it is a shame.
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  12. -Skygazer-

    -Skygazer- Advanced

    I am sure we are all fed up with BP's actions and utter disregard of their loyal players as @sebastian_fl said. We are all fed up with their secretive approach and doing whatever they please. They do have no shame..... I would love to see all loyal players (read customers) to turn their back on BP all at once, same as they keep doing to all of us.

    I said this before, I am sitting on the fence here, if Traki leaves the game, I am out for sure but I am just about do it regardless. I am very peed off!
    Last edited: Mar 28, 2017
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  13. semen470

    semen470 Padavan

    Thanks a bunch for your effort and putting up some detailed Info's we player need !

    Hope you dont mind if i post the link on the german forum as i found one person there who asked for.
    Im sure it will be helpful for a lot of player there.

    Thanks in advance
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  14. Saved_81

    Saved_81 Forum Master

    It could be the one OR the other.
    If they keep the already transferred items as they are, BP will leave in the game some "unique items" noone will ever be able to get anymore OR they will rollback those items that, honestly speeking, could affect an handfull of players over all the servers.
    I would like the rollback but even if it won't happen, who really cares? 100 players over all the servers got lvl 60 CHR items? For what I care they could be 10 times that number and the majority of the players won't suffer it.

    PVP in this game is anyway broken and those few % CHC on few players won't make it that worse.

    What is strange is that you cannot stand this while you stood the fact you already got stuff that new players will never be able to get anymore (Walking Speed capped @ 10% on boots or IAS on 1h weapons capped @ 15% tells you anything? Sapphires?)

    The only real loss for BP is that their going back and forth regard some decisions in the game makes em look clueless.

    Honestly, to my mind, they should have prevented the chance to transfer RAW/FIXED stats enchantments over unique items AT ALL. No matter the lvl of the item or whatever.
    The new progression system they are introducing for lvl 50+ doesn't supporto em? Then DON'T let the hybrids exist.

    The lvl 51+ requirements, just prevents twinks to use the item transfer and has nothing to do with the "fix" their are doing but again, the real fix for the "twinks" is to put a cap on the upgrade, nothing else would be needed.

    On the other hand I've seens already A LOT of RA moving to the 2h from q7 and the results are just impressive... neverending spam of EA. Also, we already know there will be at least 4 more Q in the near future (all the Q you will need to complete the Alliance set), I expect to see some long bow in there and if there will be a transfer also for other sets (event ones), blood rune set is gonna be OP even with his lower base stats.

    I already stated that everything was referred to the bug that Demon mentioned so you could make other 3-4 edits and that won't change the matter of facts: who cares what they delete or not on the test server anyway?
    Last edited: Mar 28, 2017
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  15. sebastian_fl

    sebastian_fl Count Count

    They didn't de-scale. I should have crafted my 4x crit ring but listened to a mod threatening not to do it.

    Dev, you are out of your mind. You either do it right or don't do it. You either let everyone benefit the 'bug or noone.

    The story doesn't end on crit rings and belts. There are some unique dwarfs out there now, with
    1. Sapphires no other dwarfs could get
    2. With T4 mortis rings with 4x scaled dmg no other dwarf can get.

    Another f-up, when you guys don't think it through, don't test it, and when you finally start thinking it's to late.

    I join the #nopay guys.
  16. trakilaki

    trakilaki Living Forum Legend

    I told you "do as you like " :p
    and that the chances are higher on a "winning side".
    Now we can both s**k balls when playing for clovers :D
  17. rcch

    rcch Advanced

  18. Erebus

    Erebus User

    It's been HERE for more than a day now, I'll quote the opening post in case you're still unsure:

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  19. rcch

    rcch Advanced

    Stand corrected. Thank you.
  20. MiSi1234

    MiSi1234 Someday Author

    Probably my luckiest craft ever:
    items I put in:
    [​IMG] [​IMG]

    Here's the result:

    my current torso had 38.62% dmg so it's a nice improvement ^^

    - Michelle

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