Darkness set

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  1. AniDrakenSniper93

    AniDrakenSniper93 Someday Author

    Hello, Greetings,

    Does anyone know the updated stats of the new darknesss set? (lvl 50+), 'especially the gloves', I'd like to see them before spending my refiners on them, thanks.
     
    Last edited: Dec 7, 2017
  2. sebastian_fl

    sebastian_fl Count Count

    Traki has posted it in 202 test server thread. Here it is again

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    Other items here:

    https://board-en.drakensang.com/threads/r202.74850/#post-679900
     
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  3. Novadude

    Novadude Commander of the Forum

    Keep in mind that if you have level 50 old style stat gloves, you're gonna get back level 50 new style stat gloves.
     
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  4. AniDrakenSniper93

    AniDrakenSniper93 Someday Author

    You mean to say that one can "refine" the old ones to the new one right?, cause I've the old one and it still has the old style stats, without being refined i.e..
     
  5. _Baragain_

    _Baragain_ Living Forum Legend

    Yes, but when you refine the item, it will keep it's old level, even though it gets the new stats.
     
  6. Novadude

    Novadude Commander of the Forum

    Yes. But the key here is the item level stays the same. So as Baragain points out, you don't get your level, you get the items level.

    The base stats of items dramatically increases from level 50 to level 55. Pretty much to the point where refining any level 50 item is pointless as the base stats of a level 50 item are quite weak.

    The only time I would consider refining worth it for a level 50 item is if you want to use the refined version at level 50 in order to complete a set.

    For level 55 old style items that can refined, it'll depend on what you've got and are getting.
     
  7. AniDrakenSniper93

    AniDrakenSniper93 Someday Author

    Yea I noticed..

    Ok but what else are the item refiners for then? I thought their only purpose was to refine old lvl 50 or lower lvl uniques..

    Oh so there are lvl 55 old style items eh?.. I guess you are saying its only worth to refine items that are lvl 55 and have good base stats and high tier?

    Anyways apart from all this, I have a general question, some people were talking about the old Atlantis set being useful for lvl 50+ players, is this true, If so How?..

    I'm also curious to know whether in case of crafting defensive type items such as defensive belt , amu etc..if it's Better to use an all "% more x on this item " enchantment, an all "% of x overall boost" or a combination of both such as 2x/2x 3x/1x etc.. Does it depend on one's gem quality, item type?, and reason for choosing them in each item type ?...
     
    Last edited: Dec 10, 2017
  8. Novadude

    Novadude Commander of the Forum

    The antique atlantis set (you can check it out in ashraya) is interesting because even though it is tier 0, it does have have a pretty decent enchantment range and a nice batch of set bonuses. So it can kind of a set a floor for item quality if you use it. Most pw stuff is better, but the atlantis set can get you started if your gear is absolute crap at level 55.
     
  9. _Baragain_

    _Baragain_ Living Forum Legend

    No.

    First, just because the item has good stat before conversion doesn't mean it will after you refine it.

    Second, though it would take time, cores, and a good amount of draken, but you could refine a LVL 50 item and if it has gold base stats, you could do soul core crafting with a LVL 55 one that you buy for draken/frags. You just have to ask yourself if the cores or your glyphs are more valuable to you. Take a look at the soul core crafting section of the wiki guide for more details.

    I'll check it out. I haven't actually looked at that one since R202.

    You answered your own question:
    Yes, very much. This mostly applies to belts and torso since they are the only items that can have either %resist/armor or %resist/armor on this item. All other items, when it comes to defensive stats, are "either/or." They have either %HP on this item or %HP.

    Rule of thumb for torsos and belts:
    If you have really nice gems, % on this item is better. If you don't have really nice gems, then % is better. You could run the numbers, but it gets complicated fast. If you want to be safe, I'd recommend a mix of 3x% on this item and 1x%.
     
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  10. gun

    gun Forum Great Master

    I agree with _Baragain_, you answer your own question;)
    As we know there are 2 kind of stats multiplier:
    1. x% on this item
    2. x%
    Basically, if you find "x% on this item" enchantment for particular item. Check other items, does it have "x%" to multiply the stats further... next decision should be, do you want to use "%x" on the other item, or you want to use mix or completely different kind of enchantment.

    For example if we talking about armor:
    - Torso have x% increased armor on this item enchantment
    - Pouldron have x% increased armor enchantment
    If we use all armor enchantment on the Torso & Pouldron.. we get pretty much very high armor rating. As the base stats for Torso get multiplied by the Torso enchantment, then it get multiplied again by the Pouldron enchantment.

    Or perhaps in our opinion the Pouldron need resistant or block rate enchantment because we already have enough armor or there is other item that able to multiply the armor futher if we like it to take advantage of that item.

    The same goes with resistant & hp.

    If you are regular player there is a tendency that you will keep on getting better & better gem quality quickly in period of time.
    And considering the difficulty of crafting(ingredients, gold, inventory..ect).. Consider not to make your gems to loose it maximum potential by keeping x% enchantment, when you know that x% on this item should be better in most case of your future.
     
  11. AniDrakenSniper93

    AniDrakenSniper93 Someday Author

    thanks for the input guys, really do appreciate it.

    anyways some-more questions, does refining an old unique with 5 slots take away the 5th slot?.. and is it worth to spend draken on equipment refiners?...
     
  12. Novadude

    Novadude Commander of the Forum

    The amount of slots you have stays the same. so that is one reason to refine, if you've already invested in the slot.
     
  13. trakilaki

    trakilaki Living Forum Legend

  14. Novadude

    Novadude Commander of the Forum

    Is there any way to get T4 or T5 items without this augment core nonsense? Because taking a T0 all the way up to T5 is I think 1000 augment cores....
     
  15. Saved_81

    Saved_81 Forum Master

    None that I know and that's the major complain about the set (it's cost is ourtrageous if we include the base cost + the augments you'll spend on them).
     
    Last edited: Dec 15, 2017
  16. Novadude

    Novadude Commander of the Forum

    5000 augment cores is madness
     
  17. trakilaki

    trakilaki Living Forum Legend

    So far ... it looks like there is no other way.
    The prices are insane. That is 25K drakens only for Augment cores + 5K Draken cores.
    On top of it ... just add the item price in draken ... have in mind they have random stats so one would have to spend thousands of draken per single item. There is no way any player to have that amount of draken. In example ... at TS I have hit the bottom and spent all my drakens just to buy all the items + Dragonsilver items ... yet i don't have a single good item. I am talking about spending 500-600K draken ... i am not talking about 10-20K.

    anyway ... here is the updated Dragonsilver set
     
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  18. sargon234

    sargon234 Commander of the Forum

    i have the unrefined set in the locker, hope they change the item refiners into giving an item refined to the new standard and at your level
     
  19. Aslandroth

    Aslandroth Regular

    I saw the set go on sale at Gnob the other day. I completely agree, the amount of draken required to bring this set to0 T5 is simply punishing to the would be player that attempts it. That said, it appears one could achieve vastly improved critical hit rates and a pretty good damage increase with these items, unless I am missing something?

    As it stands, I am going to give the set a pass, as I cannot give up my T5 Dragan pauldrons. I think what I would lose from a defensive perspective turns that into a zero sum proposition.
     
  20. Saved_81

    Saved_81 Forum Master

    The ones that are using Witch seeker's Torso + Pauldrons will find extremly interesting Darkness Torso + Pauldrons (as specifically intended by devs looking @ the price they gave to those items).
    Darkness gives more DMG/hit potential (where SW usually prefer this because it's more essence cost efficient) and has more defensive potential (since you can craft the pauldrons), Witch seeker's instead is less effective with essence and gives less defences but it's way cheaper.

    For 1 handers Darkness 3/5 seems the best option so far (because it doesn' require the 1h weapon as the wolf slayer does) givin more freedom of choise.
     
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