Dragan 2 - Feedback

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  1. _G_R_A_M_P_S_

    _G_R_A_M_P_S_ Old Hand

    Since i still haven't seen any feedback thread for the second Dragan event, i'll create one here. And yes, we desperately need one cause the fails of this event are off the charts.
    Please note up front that i'm usually not the type to complain a lot and that i understand that it's not always easy to create something that works nearly perfect.

    I really enjoyed the first dragan event, even more then the sargon event, so i was really looking out for the second. So here are my remarks:

    Castle Ravenclaw
    - miniboss archers are always lvl 1. Yes some players asked you to nerf them a bit, doesnt mean you should nerf them to that degree!
    - I feel like the pearldrop amount from knights is lower then it used to be. I usually get 5 pearls, and only once in a while 10 or 12. I feel like it should be mostly 10, so we will be motivated to fight them. Right now it's almost as fast to fight big groups of monsters.

    Excavation Site

    - There seem to be less monsters in there then before.
    - There are no more chests present with surprises like elemental ghosts.
    - The excavation leader is a joke!

    Sulfur Desert
    - The main boss is too easy, there are no more snakes spawning while fighting him.

    Battle Ground
    - Here you actually listened to us. It was way too hard and with way too many monsters. so you brought it back to one boss with a few minions, good job. And he actually moves a bit like a like a real player, rusty, but well done. But here again, nerfed too much and you made it too easy.

    Ghastly Grave
    - There s two minibosses, but they dont seem to serve any purpose. According to some killing them will weaken sargon and heredur, but i havent tested it.
    - According to the event walkthrough, heredur and sargon are supposed to drop 1 key each, and with both keys you can open their chest. Well, i only got 1 key from sargon and nothing from heredur.
    - If you guys would just take out the flaws and trash (key problem, useless other mobs) the map and the bossfight would be worked out awesome. Nicely scaled and at the right difficulty.

    Over all
    - There seem to be lot of problems with quests not working and dissappearing, especially with finishing 4/8 and trying to start 5/8. And the rewards seem to be horrible, just some costumes and dyes according to my guildies.
    - Getting victory tokens is ... I dont know what to say. Maybe you guys forgot that we need them. There's only two ways to get them now. 1. Use the quest to kill 200 monsters in the excavation site and 500 in the sulfur desert. The problem is, we have to clear both maps two times to finish this quest. That means we need 180 pearls to get 20 tokens. 2. Burning jack o crates. Oh wait, they appear randomly and not every time, and if they drop something, it s like 30 tokens (some may have dropped more). How come there isnt any map that has a repeatable quest, so you can get as much tokens after finishing that map as the amount of pearls you needed to get in? How about these quests: excavation site, needs 30 pearls, reward: 30 tokens. Sulfur desert, needs 60 pearls, reward: 60 tokens. battle ground, 100 pearls, 100 tokens. Ghastly grave, 150 pearls, 150 tokens. Make the conversionrate of pearls:tokens one of 1:1 or at least 2:1. Now, even fast farmers can only get to kill dragan 2 or 3 times a day. Which is maybe 50 times for the whole event and not enough to get the cloak. And since we cant get into the hard map...
    - barrels used to contain booby traps. They dont seem to anymore. They where fun and a break from the monotonous farming, so please bring them back.

    So with all the fails there is not even one map that is more rewarding then some normal PW farming. I'd like to urge the dev team to fix these things (especially the quests and the possibilities to farm victory tokens) and to compensate for the time it took from the start of the event till the hotfix with the same amount of extra time for the event duration. Thank you in advance!
    I forgot one: Jullov.
    We need a key from Jullov to open the burning jack o crates. When i heard this i thought like 'cool!'. I always enjoy fighting jullov and his family. Unfortunately i got disappointed. Jullov in this event turns out to be a creature of the size of an ant that can be killed with a few hits. No family, nothing. Jullov is always a funny, tough and worthy opponent, you even managed to nerf him! Bring back the real Jullov please!
    *Edit 2 - Oct 22
    Some links to other threads people started about the problem:
    - Disappearing questline: https://board-en.drakensang.com/threads/dragan-event-quest-disappeared.53778/#post-597474
    - Lvl 1 archer: https://board-en.drakensang.com/thr...-red-archer-for-my-l45-map.53783/#post-597468
    - invisible lasers: https://board-en.drakensang.com/threads/invisible-lasers-again-in-dragans-lair.53781/#post-597464
    *Edit 3 - oct 28
    Some new remarks:
    - The ranger minibosses seem to relocate their central point. Usually they can move within a certain radius of that point, when they walk too far, they reset and walk back to that central point. However, if you choose to ignore him, and he follows you for the length of one screen, then you re too far away so he 'cant see you' anymore. That exact point, will be his next centre poin, the next time you pass by. This way, if you dont kill the ranger (which is definitely not worth the time or effort) you can have the ranger walk around the whole map withouth resetting.
    - People say the droprate of the pearls has been decreases compared to that of the dragan I event. I think the pearl droprate is fine, it's just the cost to enter a map that has been increased. The price to enter the lowest map (m30) has been tripled (i think used to be 10), the price for m60 used to be 30, the price for m100 is still the same but the map is so easy even the biggest goofball can finish it and m150 is a new map. However, m150 is way easier then m100 in dragan I. So how come we pay more pearls? And dont say it s because the sargon items might drop, cause the droprate isnt that high. I propose to decrease the prices to what they used to be, m1:10 pearls, m2:30 pearls, m3:60 pearls and m4:100 pearls.
    - There's a quest i haven't heard many players about. You can get this quest from Toniosha. I don't know the name of the quest but it's quest 2/2. In this quest you have to kill dragan (normal map) for 50 or 100 draken. Just like the main quest line, this quest just vanished. Will we ever get the chance to finish it and get those draken?
    - I'm not sure since what date exactly, but since a few days, my game lags (screen freezes for 1 or 2 seconds) with every new group of monster that is being loaded when i walk around in the event map. I havent been in any other map lately so i dont know whether it's game wide, or in the event maps.
    Last edited: Oct 28, 2014
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  2. .Kravin.

    .Kravin. Forum Apprentice

    Since I have not been able to get a character into Kingshill, I have no idea about the rest of the problems. I have 2 accounts and a total of 9 characters, currently 6 are not usable after trying to enter Kingshill, game crashes to desktop. The other characters can go anywhere and play like normal. I had 1 character that was left in Kingshill yesterday, and I will lose my daily login bonus because I cannot get the game to play with him at all. Very annoying to lose my best character to a bug and I cannot use him at all after I tried to teleport to Kingshill. So, 6 characters are lost for me to even use until the bug is fixed.
  3. backs16

    backs16 Forum Greenhorn

    HI please help.. im a mac user.. after i download the new client for dragan 2 event it was okay i was able to play for almost 30min.. but when i teleport my char to kingshill and got the dc after that i cant use my main char i always got the error message.. but i can use my other char cos there not in kingshill but when i tried to Tele my other char to kingshill it happen again.. PLease fix this soon so that i can play the event sir!! im a mac user
  4. (^__^)

    (^__^) Forum Greenhorn

    why i can't open the Rigged Crate.....???!!! :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:
    i have accomplished the 1/8 of the quest of "Sabotage!"

    u can see on this picture that i have accomplished the 1/8 quest of "Sabotage!" but the ragged crate still won't opened :mad:
  5. _Baragain_

    _Baragain_ Living Forum Legend

    Go kill 500 and 200 and then you can open one... that one needs to be in order.
  6. p€rRµ$h

    p€rRµ$h Active Author

    The bugs are one thing (you get used to it ... ...) but what I don't understand is why they ruïned the gameplay.

    1) All mobs are (way) far to weak (for me at least)

    2) 100 and 150 map have barely mobs into them. Those who are present don't drop anything special. So basically you go in for the boss kill and that's it.

    3) Chests often offer only a few blue or even green essence ... come on !! this is not a reward, this is an insult !

    4) Do the dev really think that farming 180 pearls, then clearing 2 times 2 maps for 20 tokens of which you need 50 to kill dragan is pleasant ? No it isn't. How do you think people can farm that cloak ?? oh I see, you think that they will be so frustrated that they eventually pay the ridiculous price of 9000 ander for 1 dragan kill. -> N O T

    It has been said before, but this is the time to say it again. You should really fire those who made the discission the change the event in this way. The only thing which you accomplish by this is pishing off the community.
  7. Multi-Sev

    Multi-Sev Forum Overlooker

    Please rename the event. My suggestion...

    Dragan II: The Creeping Boredom...

    Thank you.
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  8. Rev

    Rev Active Author

    Dragan II: Return of yet another broken event.

    I lack originality...
  9. Multi-Sev

    Multi-Sev Forum Overlooker

    Dragan II: The Bug Infested Horror ;)
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  10. NightWalker

    NightWalker Board Analyst

    Dragan II: Time to Retire
  11. draco994

    draco994 Active Author

    I got another problem, after all the tiresome kill on two bosses in ghastly grave what we get is white normal items, which is rather disgusting from a reward chest inside boss area
    what are the dso game builders doing, cant they atleast use some common sense
  12. Durrendal

    Durrendal Padavan

    Can anyone tell me if that Chest in Ghastly Grave drops anything other tham Heredur's Offhand item and Sargon's Weapon Adornment/other left side items.
    I mean, is this Chest even dropping any other Sargon Terrifying armour?(helmet,torso,pauldron)
    If it isn't well......I am sitting this event out, the quest for 100Drakens is an insult to my time and efforts.
  13. Multi-Sev

    Multi-Sev Forum Overlooker

    I opened one chest in there so far. I got one lvl 45 Sargon helmet and one lvl 45 Sargon weapon decoration.
  14. Durrendal

    Durrendal Padavan

    I opened one chest, got Old Royal Shield and Sargon's Claw at same time, and after that when I opened two more, only green items.
    Its a Royal Pain in the EDIT Pearl droprates are low and when you gather 150 and fight two bosses, GREEN ITEMS!
    Last edited by moderator: Oct 22, 2014
  15. Multi-Sev

    Multi-Sev Forum Overlooker

    The thought of getting green items after having collected 150 pearls, and completing that fight, would probably make me get edited too ;)
  16. (^__^)

    (^__^) Forum Greenhorn

    I done this 1/8 quest of "Sabotage!" with my friend and we're done together, at the same time. then after we report the quest, on his char the rigged crate got shiny and he can open his shiny rigged crate , while on my char, the rigged crate won't go shiny and i couldn't open it
  17. KellyLark

    KellyLark Forum Greenhorn

    Is there burning jack-o-crates in sulfur desert at all? Was there twise - couldn't find, just ordinary jack with bronze coins for approximately 1,5 silver =/
  18. bishal007

    bishal007 Forum Greenhorn

    i've no word
    Really very very Ugly trick bigpoint.......
    U already have test server why u dont test it over there before put it on live active server like Heredur and tegan.
  19. Cherish

    Cherish Forum Greenhorn

    After 2 days farming in this event. For me feedback is the Sargon set drop rate so low, with the cost of 150 pearls but going fighting 2 boss got nothing just copper, It really make player disappointed. At least always give Unique item for melt. And farming pearls so long it hard for player dont have much time, and low level player. About the Hotfix reset chest I hope Devs will compensate us with the Pearls.
    And one bug about the Item is inside the map Grasty Grave the Old Royal shield melt value is 21000 iron. But when we go out back to town King hill to melt it, the value just only 10000 iron. I hope Devs will check and fix this.
  20. Bearer-of-Death

    Bearer-of-Death Exceptional Talent

    MY GOD, after the 3th day, I'm bored to death by this insane need of farming just to get 1 entrance to face Dragan.
    It took me 20 mins just to get 20 pearls and only 1 quest to get 20 tokens!!!

    I'm finished with this event, so don't bother sending me invites to any of my toons, thanks to the dev team i won't play this event.
    It's simply not worth my time.

    I guess that BP's plan is working, the P2P must be spending tens of thousands just to buy tokens!!!
    Good luck to the rest of you!!!
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