Feedback R185 Hotfix II - particularly Sapphire-Rune exchange

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  1. Greetings Heroes,

    Please post in this thread your comments regarding R185 Hotfix II

    Positive or negative, constructive criticism and ideas for improvements are, as always, welcomed. Please keep discussions on topic.

    If you are unsure what sort of feedback is being asked for, please read this thread.

    Any off-topic posts/pointless rants will be deleted.

    Best regards,

    Your Drakensang Online Team

    Special note: Big Point is particularly interested in your views re. the Sapphire Gem -> Rune exchange.

    Also note: if you are unhappy with the current offer, do not exchange your Sapphire Gems yet. Other options are being considered.
  2. MikeyMetro

    MikeyMetro Forum Overlooker

    Well, you probably already know mine but I will restate it. This is completely, utterly, totally and (I'm running out of ly's here :D) BOGUS!!!

    My primary issues is the forcing of weapon choice (1h or 2h) simply based on the type of gems a toon already has.

    Secondary, but expected from this bunch, is the process charges anders.

    In the last Twitch our newbie CM stated that this process would be fair. We now know in the future that word will be meaningless coming from him.

    I would list some suggestions for improvemnt but what's the point. Obviously the folks behind this don't have a clue (even after all these years) what players need or want. So thanks but no thanks. I'll just keep what I have.

    Luck be with ye,
  3. .kibertron.

    .kibertron. Forum Greenhorn

    I have the same issue with the sapphire refining and i m simply not gonna refine it unless thay make it fair for evryone .
  4. .Baraba.

    .Baraba. Advanced

    And where we can find that items? On TS it was on second tab of gem traders offer (where gem refiners are).
  5. jayr3d

    jayr3d Regular

    its better we keep our suggestions to our self and mouths shut maybe that will be a positive change cause all these years we been speaking up and look where it got us rofl update 185!
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  6. No... this is one of those times where it really would be best to say exactly what you think. And urgently.

    SUPERDOUPER Junior Expert

    i dont get why did you make that sacred and royal sapphires once that are transformed into runes only can be used in 2hd weapon? so why should i do it and then later if i play 1hd weapon i cant use my sapphires/runes for speed, it doesnt make any sense
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  8. sebastian_fl

    sebastian_fl Count Count

    We have pretty much said everything in the previous thread.

    1. Player decision should drive the output, not a gem rarity.
    2. There should be gem breakdown, so those with 1 flawless can get the same thing those with three radiant. Same about sacred and royal. Guy with sacred might decide to exchanhe it as 9 radiants.
    3. Higher tier gems being limited to 2h is nonsense. It could be an opposite.
    4. Why are sapphires removed at all? How would new players catch up those like me with 5 royals and the runes?) I can reach 2.11 speed on 2handed converting only my gems not in use, keeping the royals. Without points from tree)
  9. xmasholo

    xmasholo Forum Apprentice

    About Sapphire Refiner
    There are a lot people who like play with weapon 1hand specially rangers, who needs speed attack to be efficient, actually is very difficult to get a good crit rate and our best option would be, refine our zafire gems as runes and then put onyx gems in these slots
    but, the problem is the players that they have high quality gems, they can't do it. Because the higher runes can be used only on 2handed weapon.
    In other words their zafire gems are absoluty obsolete
    Recomendation; allow the player decide in what kind of runes wants to transform, depending on their value
    Sorry about my simple english.
  10. -{Gabriel}-

    -{Gabriel}- Active Author

    Why remove Balor from 2nd daily challenge quest and leave us with 2 choices 10 bosses or Asir ?
    Just WHY ??
    This is a GAME A GAME
    Maybe your dev team should realise that
    People have real life Work FAMILY you turn a fun quick game into a chore
    Last edited by moderator: Mar 7, 2017
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  11. Saved_81

    Saved_81 Forum Master

    IMHO the only reliable solution would be to make those grand celerity runes avaiable also for 1-h weapons.
    The break/revert sapphire thing it's just too counter-intuitive as long as you will be better to completly revert those gems into flawed ones just to get most out of them.

    This would mean that whover got the gems from the jesters could feel a bit screwed but you could also "refound" whover bought em since those gems weren't avaible as Jester's price untill today.

    About the Sapphire beeing obsolete, it's simply true, most of the players will try to fill those slots with onixes and put the new IAS gems in the ornament/weapon slots. That will automatically "fill" the gap between old/new players.
  12. Gevilson

    Gevilson Active Author

    The conversion for the first 5 tiers of sapphires is acceptable, but from there... no way. No way a radiant sapphire is worth 90 clovers and a flawless sapphire 15 clovers. And limiting the conversion of the highest tiers to 2H is also non sense, but all of this has been said, so like most here I'll just wait for a better conversion or gem breakdown.
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  13. MikeyMetro

    MikeyMetro Forum Overlooker

    Alrighty then... this idea came to me in a dream as if from the Gaming Godz themselves... not really :rolleyes: it was during a game break when I was eating a burrito and chugging a beer (or few :D)

    Suggestion for Sapphire Exchange

    Exchange sapphires for special clovers. These clovers could only be used to purchase celerity runes. They could also be used along with regular clovers when purchasing celerity runes (this part is necessary for those leftover specials.)

    This would completely resolve the issue of a forced weapon choice as well as giving players flexibility in that choice going forward.

    As to the exact exchange rate I have not given that much thought. Equivalent speed must be a consideration. Though I also wonder about what went into gems above purchasable radiants. E.g. all 3 of my royals used a jewel of enchantment, for others it may be they spent cash, perhaps some would prefer the precomined values (maybe they might not have combined to the next tier if they had some inkling this kept in secret mess was coming.) As I said I have not give this part much thought. If others in the community feel this may be workable maybe they can help out with this part.

    Luck be with ye,
    Last edited: Mar 7, 2017
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  14. iNeXoRaBlE

    iNeXoRaBlE Forum Great Master

    The gem refine was fine by me (the cost was so low didn't expect that) . But the limitation about the one hand/two hand is not that good though. Now, i have reported something at the support and i don't even get an answer. I even posted at the r185 post. When the new rel come. I lost some gems and i got a "refund" I got back a moonstone (instead of two) and a Polished gem (instead of one Bloodstone). This happened twice! Today it happened again. For some reason my merged gems (Small Bloodmoon Stone) can't stay in the items. Can somebody explain this to me?
  15. Novadude

    Novadude Commander of the Forum

    The sapphire - rune exchange is a bad deal all around.

    Limiting the 9, 12 and16% runes to 2H is terrible in terms of equity. It really screws over the 1H players who had these gems.

    Players should have been informed of these changes further in advance.

    If sapphires were game breaking, what should have happened is that sapphires should have stayed in the game but moved to the rune slot like all the other specialty gems. The idea of players will now have these legacy gems is also a bad idea.
  16. fuzball15

    fuzball15 Someday Author

    i agree the large gems should be for 1 hand items as well i only play 1 hand so why should i lose out on my gems as i have been playing 4 years now to get them and im limited to putting into 2 hand and the idea mikey has is not a bad one regards steve
  17. Demon

    Demon Forum Mogul

    First of all-Wrong decision with saphire conversion. Should not be posible conversion of sapphires under 1.5 speed for 2% runes.
    Second that limitation for 2H runes is a curse for old players that has gems bigger than 8.6.

    Third -there was 2 feedback discutions thread on this forum about the Sapphire feedback exchange why dont you merge them in to oficial feedback when they come on test server?

    No respect for players.
    Read that and you will find our feedback there.
    How much time BP need to understand that major decizion should be taken after they consult the players not before.Obsolete thread the damage is done.In my guild 2 big players is leaving the game because of this.
    I think you realy need to ajust your decizion before you loose more players that has royal gems :))
    Last edited: Mar 7, 2017
  18. Wild

    Wild Forum Apprentice

    There is no chance that i will change my sapphires for this runes. Only way to make me happy is if u give me back all andermands i put in my royal sapphires .
  19. edrogers58

    edrogers58 Regular

    You guys at DSO are having a laugh right ??
    1 the Sapps should be allowed to be used in any weapon we the players(your consumers) choose
    2 You really want us to pay Anders to change them to your lame runes ?????
    Are you serious ?
    People either farmed Anders for Gems used Cash or used Gems of Empowerment to make high level speed Gems
    So instead of respecting your player base you kept this change to runes a secret and try to force people to use Anders to change to runes ??
    This should be offered for Free to the community at large and the Devs should show some respect to the player base for a change not continually make grabs for money

    Side note

    I would like to thank the guys who have time to play the test server and post comments on here without you guys the majority of the community would be left in the dark about changes to the game in general :)
  20. Falk101

    Falk101 Junior Expert

    Djinn unique was so nice to play and allowed braco to find any utility in a group but you destroyed it and now it's just good to melt.

    Why not just decrease to 20% or 10% max and to limit 1 Djinn power by group ?

    When we find pleasure in this game all is destroyed...

    Safire refiners is a good idea for me.
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